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shimmy
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Poland997 Posts
June 29 2009 21:03 GMT
#181
I love Blizzard but this is simply a moronic decision.
Hell hath no fury like the vast robot armies of a woman scorned.
despite
Profile Joined June 2009
Bulgaria105 Posts
June 29 2009 21:16 GMT
#182
On June 30 2009 00:44 Kennigit wrote:
Shut up until they announce b.net 2.0.


Man I already hate bnet2. Even if they implement flying naked asian girls in the bnet2 menu it cannot make up for the loss of LAN.
n00bonicPlague
Profile Joined August 2008
United States197 Posts
June 29 2009 21:21 GMT
#183
Even if they implement flying naked asian girls in the bnet2 menu it cannot make up for the loss of LAN.

rofl -- I'm with this guy XD
Beta = 04/01/10
520
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2822 Posts
June 29 2009 21:21 GMT
#184
I'm glad that petitions came up for this and the community is so vocal, though. Blizzard hardly ever makes a decision that is frowned upon so largely by the community - casual and competitive players are both in arms about this decision. I'd be VERY surprised to see it make it through beta.
Writer
ActualSteve
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States627 Posts
June 29 2009 21:22 GMT
#185
I don't support this.

I play StarCraft on a laptop against similar situated people.
LAN makes sense.

Sweet, Blizz!
You are now breathing manually.
FieryBalrog
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1381 Posts
June 29 2009 21:53 GMT
#186
On June 29 2009 19:33 I3oxerfan wrote:
So stupid. Fucking stupid.
Really sad news.
They can't stop stupid people from pirating their games but without lan, thei are punishing the whole community.



No, they're not. Most people never play LAN and don't give a crap.
I will eat you alive
Shade692003
Profile Joined August 2005
Canada702 Posts
June 29 2009 21:55 GMT
#187
On June 30 2009 06:53 FieryBalrog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2009 19:33 I3oxerfan wrote:
So stupid. Fucking stupid.
Really sad news.
They can't stop stupid people from pirating their games but without lan, thei are punishing the whole community.



No, they're not. Most people never play LAN and don't give a crap.


No, YOU don't give a crap. A shitton of people play with lan. Lan parties, internet cafe, playing in a lagless environment with friends. LAN is still to this day very popular.
I hate the post below mine because it feels War3-ish.
danieldrsa
Profile Joined June 2008
Brazil522 Posts
June 29 2009 22:00 GMT
#188
Really, i dont care if lan is out

Yes some ppl play on lan with original games
Yes piracy never stoped the SC1 sucess

But, imo most of bash is because ppl will need more originals
Wich i dont think is totally truth, since alternative Bnet could still be possible.
-*-
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
June 29 2009 22:02 GMT
#189
On June 30 2009 06:55 Shade692003 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2009 06:53 FieryBalrog wrote:
On June 29 2009 19:33 I3oxerfan wrote:
So stupid. Fucking stupid.
Really sad news.
They can't stop stupid people from pirating their games but without lan, thei are punishing the whole community.



No, they're not. Most people never play LAN and don't give a crap.


No, YOU don't give a crap. A shitton of people play with lan. Lan parties, internet cafe, playing in a lagless environment with friends. LAN is still to this day very popular.


LAN partys is never on LAN but on the internet nowadays anyway
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
June 29 2009 22:06 GMT
#190
Here in Waterloo we've held multiple SC1 LANs with NO internet access.

I'm sure lots of groups of people do the same in their own cities.

Finding a good venue for a LAN is hard enough as it is. Now the venue needs to provide everyone with internet connections? With SC1, all we need is a big room and a router to have a LAN. This new "feature" adds so many barriers for us that we might just give up trying to have an SC2 LAN.


I'd like to know, just how big is the "target audience" for this anti-piracy "feature"? If LAN games were available, these people would pirate the game and be content playing nothing but LAN games with their local friends. But with this anti-piracy "feature", these LAN-only people will suddenly buy the game? I doubt that. If the allure of online games couldn't convince them to buy SC2, then will a total lack of multiplayer do it? Or will they just shrug and play the latest Command and Conquer RTS, or Counterstrike, or some console game?

As a fighting game player, I can tell you that being unable to play an awesome fighting game with your online friends (who live in different cities or countries) SUCKS. If someone loves SC2, they're not gonna be content with LAN-only: they'll start on LAN with a pirated copy, realize the game is awesome, and go out to buy the real thing so that they can play with all the guys they know online. And if they don't love SC2, then the odds of them buying SC2 are low.

And then you have to subtract the pirates who can't afford SC2, anyway.


Speaking of people discovering they love SC2 after playing a pirated copy on a LAN, this is like having the pirate community develop and test a demo version of SC2 for you. Now, there won't be a way for people to demo (and get hooked on) SC2 before buying it, unless Blizzard spends extra money making one -- but then why not let the pirates make it for free while simultaneously making your paying customers happier?


Lastly, as an SC player who switched to console fighting games, I've discovered that playing with your friends in-person adds a LOT to the experience of gaming. Yet ironically, Blizzard is taking a step backwards by making it much harder for local friends to get together and play SC2 in-person. It is unbelievable.

I hope Blizzard tests this new "feature" by playing SC2 only in their own homes from now on, isolated from everyone else. This will simulate the reduced- or in-ability for many of us to have SC2 LANs.
FieryBalrog
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1381 Posts
June 29 2009 22:07 GMT
#191
On June 30 2009 06:55 Shade692003 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2009 06:53 FieryBalrog wrote:
On June 29 2009 19:33 I3oxerfan wrote:
So stupid. Fucking stupid.
Really sad news.
They can't stop stupid people from pirating their games but without lan, thei are punishing the whole community.



No, they're not. Most people never play LAN and don't give a crap.


No, YOU don't give a crap. A shitton of people play with lan. Lan parties, internet cafe, playing in a lagless environment with friends. LAN is still to this day very popular.


Very much a minority of total sales.

Besides, they will probably make it like Steam where you can play on LAN after signing into BNET. Its not the end of the world. Of course, it is if you've been relying on a cracked copy and play solely in internet cafes.
I will eat you alive
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-29 22:19:54
June 29 2009 22:18 GMT
#192
On June 30 2009 07:02 Zoler wrote:
LAN partys is never on LAN but on the internet nowadays anyway

I'd love to see people like you come here to Waterloo and organize a small (10-15 people) SC2 LAN with little or no venue fee (i.e. no paying $20+ to play at the local gaming centre). Doing so for an SC1 LAN is a bit of a hassle but it is doable.

Then go to a smaller city that has no gaming centre or LAN cafe, and try to organize an SC2 LAN at all. What are you going to do, rent a hotel event room for ~10 people? The venue fee per person would be outrageous.
ToT)OjKa(
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Korea (South)2437 Posts
June 29 2009 22:21 GMT
#193
DA FUCK?!
OjKa OjKa OjKa!
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-29 22:27:16
June 29 2009 22:21 GMT
#194
On June 30 2009 07:07 FieryBalrog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2009 06:55 Shade692003 wrote:
On June 30 2009 06:53 FieryBalrog wrote:
On June 29 2009 19:33 I3oxerfan wrote:
So stupid. Fucking stupid.
Really sad news.
They can't stop stupid people from pirating their games but without lan, thei are punishing the whole community.



No, they're not. Most people never play LAN and don't give a crap.


No, YOU don't give a crap. A shitton of people play with lan. Lan parties, internet cafe, playing in a lagless environment with friends. LAN is still to this day very popular.


Very much a minority of total sales.

Besides, they will probably make it like Steam where you can play on LAN after signing into BNET. Its not the end of the world. Of course, it is if you've been relying on a cracked copy and play solely in internet cafes.

I've purchased SC 3 times, WC2 2 times, WC3+TFT 3 times and diablo 2 once. I'm not a pirate, I'm the opposite of a pirate. I'm someone who has multiple licenses I can't use concurrently because of lost CD keys.

I'm seriously considering not getting SC2 because of the lack of lan. When I started playing SC, I was in grade school. I'm doing my second and third degrees at the moment. When I look back, the memories I had were of inviting everyone to my birthday party at a little sweaty garbage Lan center and having a bunch of 8 way FFAs. We all loved it. We weren't good. Fuck, I'm STILL not good, but we loved it. I built a bunch of cannons in my friend's main base, and then I unallied him. I told him they were for protection and we laughed about it for a week.

When I rediscovered starcraft, a friend of mine had bought a few copies of starcraft for an otherwise defunct university science computer lab and set up a small charity lan event. I won a tiny cake. It tasted like 4 pool and delicious.

My SC experience, and I'm pretty sure there are MANY other people in the same boat, was defined by games in LAN. Diablo 2, by contrast, was never a lan-centric game for me. I wouldn't give a shit if they gutted that option. But for starcraft? The starcraft that grew up as a game to share between friends? No. I'm sorry. Its not a small deal.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
June 29 2009 22:27 GMT
#195
On June 30 2009 07:21 L wrote:
I've purchased SC 3 times, WC2 2 times, WC3 ane expansion 3 times and diablo 2 once.

I'm seriously considering not getting SC2 because of the lack of lan. When I started playing SC, I was in grade school. I'm doing my second and third degrees at the moment. The memories I had were of inviting everyone to my birthday party at a little sweaty garbage Lan center and having a bunch of 8 way FFAs. We all loved it. We weren't good. Fuck, I'm STILL not good, but we loved it.

When I rediscovered starcraft, a friend of mine had bought a few copies of starcraft for an otherwise defunct university science computer lab and set up a small charity lan event. I won a tiny cake. It tasted like 4 pool and delicious.

My SC experience, and I'm pretty sure there are MANY other people in the same boat, was defined by games in LAN. Diablo 2, by contrast, was never a lan-centric game for me. I wouldn't give a shit if they gutted that option. But for starcraft? The starcraft that grew up as a game to share between friends? No. I'm sorry. Its not a small deal.

I've had this kind of experience only a few times so far, but I'd love to have it more often.

Guess it's not gonna happpen.

Thanks Blizzard for making us all a little less social.
Tsagacity
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2124 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-29 22:29:57
June 29 2009 22:28 GMT
#196
I feel like no matter what some style of LAN is going to end up in SC2, even if it's third party. I don't really understand this decision and I wish they explained their reasons behind it

If this is just for piracy prevention (I doubt it is), then this seems like a really bad choice =/

We had a thread about how to make money off b.net a few weeks ago, I wonder if they're going to sell a lan expansion for $10
"Everyone worse than me at video games is a noob. Everyone better than me doesn't have a life."
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
June 29 2009 22:28 GMT
#197
No LAN is really disappointing and will kill small tournaments and lanparties. I didn't think Blizzard was the kind of company that would intentionally cut things out of their game just to potentially make a few extra bucks when they know it will negatively impact the community.
CROrens
Profile Joined May 2007
Croatia1005 Posts
June 29 2009 22:31 GMT
#198
On June 29 2009 18:50 SearingShadow wrote:
There will be LAN on Battle.net.

The only people this affects is those without an internet connection.



Well thats kinda the point of LAN, playing MP offline...
Imagine a LAN party with 20 people, so now they all have to be online... meaning they have to share the same connection... lag much?
There is no problem that cannot be solved by the use of high explosives. - Anonymous ......||......Hyuk fan! \o/
Shade692003
Profile Joined August 2005
Canada702 Posts
June 29 2009 22:33 GMT
#199
On June 30 2009 07:07 FieryBalrog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2009 06:55 Shade692003 wrote:
On June 30 2009 06:53 FieryBalrog wrote:
On June 29 2009 19:33 I3oxerfan wrote:
So stupid. Fucking stupid.
Really sad news.
They can't stop stupid people from pirating their games but without lan, thei are punishing the whole community.



No, they're not. Most people never play LAN and don't give a crap.


No, YOU don't give a crap. A shitton of people play with lan. Lan parties, internet cafe, playing in a lagless environment with friends. LAN is still to this day very popular.


Very much a minority of total sales.

Besides, they will probably make it like Steam where you can play on LAN after signing into BNET. Its not the end of the world. Of course, it is if you've been relying on a cracked copy and play solely in internet cafes.


Logging in BNET for lanning is my only hope right now Seriously, If I play with 7 other friends, sitting right next to me, why should the connection hop to servers all around the country only to send back the information to someone right next to me. I LAN with my friends almost everyday in the school year, I much prefer having minimal lag than unnecessary higher ping.
I hate the post below mine because it feels War3-ish.
illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
June 29 2009 22:35 GMT
#200
LAN will be added to the expansions, I am sure. LoL. If the game was complete from the start who would buy expansions anyways.
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