• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 17:59
CEST 23:59
KST 06:59
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out4RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-2212Weekly Cups (July 27-Aug 2): SHIN's big week0SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-69SC4ALL II announced - $10,000 prize pool, Dec 5-64
StarCraft 2
General
SC4ALL: II Talent Announcement! Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out SC4ALL II: StarCraft 2 Player Announcement 5/8 Protoss AoE skill expression August World Ranking: Clem climbs to #2
Tourneys
PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Tasteless Time Warp: SC Evo Showmatch (May 25)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 538 Media Blackout The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 537 Hostile Territory Mutation # 536 Railroad Switch
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion ASL22 General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Are you ready for ASL 22? NEW HYPE VIDEO How FlaSh Nearly Forfeited MSL Finals being late
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues 2v2v2v2 Tournament KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3 Escore Tournament - Season 3
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Any training maps people recommend? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread EVE Corporation General RTS Discussion Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Diablo 2 thread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Iain M Banks Says He Has Cancer And Months To Live The Letting Off Steam Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread NBA General Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Are High-Level Gamers more A…
TrAiDoS
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
Hello guys!
LIN1s
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 5426 users

NBA Playoffs 09 - Page 49

Forum Index > Closed
Post a Reply
Prev 1 47 48 49 50 51 179 Next
XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-04 00:17:31
May 04 2009 00:17 GMT
#961
On May 04 2009 09:06 Ace wrote:
whats the problem Cyric? Calderon bitching lol.

How do we know he really punched that guy?

whats wrong with telling Wally to play some D? thats nothing to complain about.


Are you seriously focusing on Calderon's part in the altercation when KG was running down the court sticking his finger in his face and yelling at him? Do we need to get into his going down on all fours and acting like a dog in the middle of a game?

You're right, we don't know if the rumors/allegations about KG punching teammates are true. There's plenty of stuff that is confirmed that indicates he's a punk.

What's wrong with Wally telling KG to call out screens? If you're accepting that story as possible true, then how does being told to call out screens an excuse for a sucker punch?

Sure, KG is a great player, but you're just fooling yourself if you deny that he's got some problems with his attitude, particularly since he got his first ring last year. He has exhibited inexcusably disrespectful and malicious behavior on the court, and there are many undeniable examples of it (Youtube alone, provides many examples). If KG ever does get knocked on his ass, I can assure you that the only fans that will be upset will be Boston fans, while the rest will be glad he finally got his come-uppance.
Moderator
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 04 2009 00:20 GMT
#962
lol come on Cyric, Calderon was clearly in the wrong there. Why is he complaining to the refs and disrupting the flow of the game?

ah yea I forgot about the part where KG sucker punched him, whoops ^_^. If it was purely verbal I wouldn't have thought it was that serious.

and I doubt most of those KG allegations are true...why? There was an ESPN poll by the players and coaches done and on it KG was #1 for "best teammate to have". I don't think he's as disliked as you think. I've never even heard this stuff pop up frequently.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
May 04 2009 00:47 GMT
#963
On May 04 2009 09:20 Ace wrote:
lol come on Cyric, Calderon was clearly in the wrong there. Why is he complaining to the refs and disrupting the flow of the game?


I'm hoping that this is sarcasm.

and I doubt most of those KG allegations are true...why? There was an ESPN poll by the players and coaches done and on it KG was #1 for "best teammate to have". I don't think he's as disliked as you think. I've never even heard this stuff pop up frequently.


Can you link to this poll, or at least cite it, and when was it taken? Most of what people dislike about Garnett is what he does to opposing teams' players, not his own (although bringing Big Baby to tears wasn't exactly supportive). His disrespect towards his opponents wouldn't bother his teammates as much since it's directed at others. Lastly, if you've never heard about KG being disliked or criticized for his disrespectful actions this season, then you just haven't been paying attention. It's been discussed in various articles, blogs, ESPN itself, PTI, etc. It got so bad he even released a statement trying to defend himself and his teammates (as I said, there's a trickle-down effect). Moreover, he's been getting criticized from various sources for his behavior in the BOS-CHI series while on the bench! You know he's got a problem when he's able to offend people while being injured and not even playing.
Moderator
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-04 01:01:46
May 04 2009 00:59 GMT
#964
yea first part is sarcasm.

Im looking for it on ESPN, it's a poll where the players were asked league wide who the best teammate is, best defender, best shooter, stuff like that. But espn.com isn't really catching my keywords correctly.

I don't know man - 90s and 80s players did a lot worse. Not saying it's right, but to say he has no class? If you get in a guys head and he lets it get to him that's his problem. A grown man should know better than to react to some guy on the ball court talking trash ^_^

ETA: I just found this - hilarious.

http://www.fannation.com/si_blogs/staff/posts/54741-si-players-nba-poll-which-player-would-you-least-like-to-have-on-your-team?eref=fromSI
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-04 01:17:44
May 04 2009 01:00 GMT
#965
A cite that confirms that the incidents between KG and his MIN teammates actually happened.

There were various other cites, but the articles have all either been archived or have turned into dead links. They're prevalent enough that there appears to be truth to the stories.

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/32979/20040901/garnett_punches_player_during_pickup_game/

Anti-KG article

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/97395-kevin-garnett-the-big-ticket-becomes-the-big-bully/page/2

Article where KG defends himself and his teammates' antics that have angered the rest of the league

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/56308/20081231/garnett_rivals_are_all_talk/

Recent Anti-KG articles about his antics in the CHI-BOS series

http://www.canishoopus.com/2009/4/29/858990/kg-not-winning-any-sportsmanship
Moderator
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
May 04 2009 01:35 GMT
#966
lol fcken boston
unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
May 04 2009 01:48 GMT
#967
let's go dallas let's go *clap clap*
"Thanks for the kind words, but if SS is the most interesting book you've ever read, you must have just started reading a couple of weeks ago." - Mark Rippetoe
iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
May 04 2009 01:51 GMT
#968
^ dallas rofl.

And KG is a fag who only does it to small guards. I would like to see him harass Artest or Dwight Howard or Lebron. I have to agree that if a very hard foul that injures Garnett would happen I would be an Instant fan of the guy who did it.
Woo Jung Ho
iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-04 02:03:57
May 04 2009 02:02 GMT
#969
and wow. check this out:

[image loading]


that is the best angle that i have seen by far. Closed fist on the head, not a flagrant foul, yeah. GJ NBA.
Woo Jung Ho
warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2397 Posts
May 04 2009 02:07 GMT
#970
Time to get over it.
iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
May 04 2009 02:09 GMT
#971
Yeah I have gotten over it I just happened to see that pic while reading through cyric's links. I didnt know it was a closed fist. I just indicated how good NBA officials and the guys who reviewed it are. Boston gonna get trashed by Orlando anyway.
Woo Jung Ho
unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-04 03:05:19
May 04 2009 03:04 GMT
#972
nothing wrong with going for the underdogs and i hate jr smith so dallas was an obvious choice

edit: too bad they lost
"Thanks for the kind words, but if SS is the most interesting book you've ever read, you must have just started reading a couple of weeks ago." - Mark Rippetoe
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
May 04 2009 03:48 GMT
#973
I'm starting to lose respect for KG. Wow, he does alot of cheap shots on guys
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-04 04:21:26
May 04 2009 04:19 GMT
#974
Mark Cuban's response to the dress code is what I think of this KG is a bully talk. (People should be complaining about his setting moving screens, or his I know lots of defensive tricks that refs can't see comment)
http://blogmaverick.com/2005/10/19/nba-dress-code-response-to-reader-comments/

Watch the pregame of NFL games. They have talked to coaches about plays. They talk about plays. They talk about defensive strategy. They talk about what will be run in which situations. Fans do the same. It makes watching the games a lot more fun.

What do we talk about before an NBA game ? ... Instead we get stupid ramblings like “so and so has got to step up and earn his money”. ...

I was watching the Mavs vs Detroit preseason game last night. Cliche after Cliche. Not a single bit of new information. ...Has anyone ever heard after a basket; “I expect the Mavs to run a thumbs down or horns sidein this situation. Detroit is probably expecting them to push the ball, so watch for the Pistons to use a send 4 to the Offensive boards and everyone else gets back when the ball goes up into a man to man, gold on the post, come on first dribble on an entry pass”.
...
Instead we get mindless drivel about players. I know the game is fast and doesnt have the breaks that football has, but there is still time to discuss these things during stoppages and free throws
...
I said it in the previous post, the Dress Code is a response to symptoms of bigger problems. The simplistic views people have of our players, is in response to our own stupidity in how we cover and report our games. On a macro level.

On an individual level. If you think NBA players, or any professional athlete that you never have had any interaction with is a thug. Then the problem is yours. You are an idiot.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
May 04 2009 04:31 GMT
#975
On May 04 2009 13:19 igotmyown wrote:
Mark Cuban's response to the dress code is what I think of this KG is a bully talk. (People should be complaining about his setting moving screens, or his I know lots of defensive tricks that refs can't see comment)
http://blogmaverick.com/2005/10/19/nba-dress-code-response-to-reader-comments/

Watch the pregame of NFL games. They have talked to coaches about plays. They talk about plays. They talk about defensive strategy. They talk about what will be run in which situations. Fans do the same. It makes watching the games a lot more fun.

What do we talk about before an NBA game ? ... Instead we get stupid ramblings like “so and so has got to step up and earn his money”. ...

I was watching the Mavs vs Detroit preseason game last night. Cliche after Cliche. Not a single bit of new information. ...Has anyone ever heard after a basket; “I expect the Mavs to run a thumbs down or horns sidein this situation. Detroit is probably expecting them to push the ball, so watch for the Pistons to use a send 4 to the Offensive boards and everyone else gets back when the ball goes up into a man to man, gold on the post, come on first dribble on an entry pass”.
...
Instead we get mindless drivel about players. I know the game is fast and doesnt have the breaks that football has, but there is still time to discuss these things during stoppages and free throws
...
I said it in the previous post, the Dress Code is a response to symptoms of bigger problems. The simplistic views people have of our players, is in response to our own stupidity in how we cover and report our games. On a macro level.

On an individual level. If you think NBA players, or any professional athlete that you never have had any interaction with is a thug. Then the problem is yours. You are an idiot.
I mean this seriously- what country are you from? D:
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
May 04 2009 04:34 GMT
#976
On May 04 2009 13:19 igotmyown wrote:
Mark Cuban's response to the dress code is what I think of this KG is a bully talk. (People should be complaining about his setting moving screens, or his I know lots of defensive tricks that refs can't see comment)
http://blogmaverick.com/2005/10/19/nba-dress-code-response-to-reader-comments/

Watch the pregame of NFL games. They have talked to coaches about plays. They talk about plays. They talk about defensive strategy. They talk about what will be run in which situations. Fans do the same. It makes watching the games a lot more fun.

What do we talk about before an NBA game ? ... Instead we get stupid ramblings like “so and so has got to step up and earn his money”. ...

I was watching the Mavs vs Detroit preseason game last night. Cliche after Cliche. Not a single bit of new information. ...Has anyone ever heard after a basket; “I expect the Mavs to run a thumbs down or horns sidein this situation. Detroit is probably expecting them to push the ball, so watch for the Pistons to use a send 4 to the Offensive boards and everyone else gets back when the ball goes up into a man to man, gold on the post, come on first dribble on an entry pass”.
...
Instead we get mindless drivel about players. I know the game is fast and doesnt have the breaks that football has, but there is still time to discuss these things during stoppages and free throws
...
I said it in the previous post, the Dress Code is a response to symptoms of bigger problems. The simplistic views people have of our players, is in response to our own stupidity in how we cover and report our games. On a macro level.

On an individual level. If you think NBA players, or any professional athlete that you never have had any interaction with is a thug. Then the problem is yours. You are an idiot.



I don't see how anything in that blog post is relevant to the KG discussion in this thread. People aren't labeling KG a thug because of what he wears or the way he speaks or any part of his image, etc. They're looking at how he's acted on the court and with his teammates and how he's conducted himself while injured and on the bench during the CHI-BOS series, and reached the logical conclusion that he has an attitude problem. The way he throws elbows during deadballs and throws unnecessarily hard screens is even more relevant and appropriate for commentary.

Seeing a player act the way KG has during games is bound to draw the attention of fans, because it's rare and is not behavior you expect at an NBA game. Stuff like going down on all fours, wagging a finger and clapping in a player's face, or trashtalking an in-game player while you're injured and not playing are not supposed to happen in the NBA, so people will react when they do. That is nothing like pointing at an athlete's clothing and concluding he might be a thug. It's also not not the same as the irrelevant, non-game-related stuff that Cuban is sick of hearing from commentators at games. You go to any sport, and have an athlete do what KG has done during a game, and I guarantee that it'll become a hot topic of discussion.
Moderator
iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
May 04 2009 04:44 GMT
#977
I commend Cyric for being a civilized poster in replying to such a stupid post. Props to you sir.
Woo Jung Ho
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
May 04 2009 04:50 GMT
#978
On May 04 2009 13:44 iLoveKTF wrote:
I commend Cyric for being a civilized poster in replying to such a stupid post. Props to you sir.

unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
May 04 2009 05:05 GMT
#979
errr...ok how was that article relevant to kg? i don't mean any disrespect by questioning it but seriously where is the relevance in the article? the dress code thingy is a whole different topic
"Thanks for the kind words, but if SS is the most interesting book you've ever read, you must have just started reading a couple of weeks ago." - Mark Rippetoe
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-04 05:32:42
May 04 2009 05:26 GMT
#980
The whole post under the link was Mark Cubans. Unfortunately he writes fairly provocatively, like calling people idiots.

The analogy is that sportswriters buzz off-court issues that affect image but not gameplay, at the cost of gameplay issues. When someone showed all the fanfare about KG's being a bad person, I'm stating just because sportswriters and the public jump on the topic of the month doesn't mean players or coaches really care about it.

On one hand, who cares, if people want to talk about it they want to talk about it.

On the other hand, two years ago there were nonstop articles about how Tim Duncan was a whiner, but now I'm pretty sure he whines just as much but nobody cares anymore. And then there was Allen Iversion not practicing, Allen Iversion being a ghetto thug, Shaq half assing it for the first half of every season, Ron Artest being a locker room poison, Gilbert Arenas being an egomaniac. And Kobe raped a woman. Ok, that's actually a pretty big deal.
Prev 1 47 48 49 50 51 179 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 1m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ViBE173
StarCraft: Brood War
Dewaltoss 128
Dota 2
XaKoH 325
League of Legends
Doublelift5150
Counter-Strike
summit1g7198
shoxiejesuss1435
minikerr33
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King150
C9.Mang067
PPMD48
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu537
Other Games
Grubby2240
shahzam619
mouzStarbuck258
elazer220
SteadfastSC39
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV87
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• musti20045 33
• mYiSmile129
• davetesta7
• Adnapsc2 3
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21353
League of Legends
• Scarra1144
• Shiphtur628
• Stunt168
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
2h 1m
Replay Cast
11h 1m
Kung Fu Cup
13h 1m
Replay Cast
1d 2h
The PondCast
1d 12h
OSC
1d 15h
Replay Cast
2 days
Escore
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
[ Show More ]
OSC
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Rush vs Hm
Bisu vs Shuttle
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
The Patches Monday
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Sharp vs Shinee
Action vs Shine
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-08-10
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
Acropolis #5
RSL Revival: Season 6
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W7
CSLAN 4
ASL Season 22
Escore Tournament S3: W8
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
META DYMY #4
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Thunderpick World Champ.
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.