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Relic vs Blizzard, lets show'em [Escapist Vote] - Page 8

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ilistis
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States828 Posts
March 27 2009 19:46 GMT
#141
So I read a blog a few weeks back on DOWII. Heck there was even this one guy in school who respects starcraft as a game but was excited for DOWII. So I decide to download it and I'm glad I did.

That game is slow. I played for 15 min in the single player campaign, quit the game, uninstalled and never looked back.

Sometimes I wish I never played starcraft, there is no RTS that is fun to me. Empire total war looks epic but looks so slow. I guess that's what happens with WOW players, they can't play another mmorpg if it isn't wow.

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chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
March 27 2009 19:46 GMT
#142
oh shit. blizz is finally winning for the first time.
:O
Disarray
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1164 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-27 19:47:28
March 27 2009 19:47 GMT
#143
On March 28 2009 04:46 Tinithor wrote:
There is no way in the world that any serious gamer can pick Relic over Blizzard, even when highly intoxicated. DoW2 is the biggest lump of shit that i've ever seen to be called a "game" in my life.

Ahhh well the fact that Blizzard is losing just goes to show how far the gaming community has fallen.... People nowadays seem to care more about flashy lights and "innovation" more than having an actual game to play.



and thats exactly what im talking about.


sad.
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Gryffindor_us
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States5606 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-27 19:51:51
March 27 2009 19:49 GMT
#144
This is stupid. The whole thing is being swamped by Games Workshop fans. I voted Blizzard but I won't lie and say I'm not ignorant of Company of Heroes and DoW. I have played DoW2 though and it's a piece of shit lol. It's slow and ridden with bugs and the resource income model is bleh.

SO I guess what I'm asking is if it's worth it for me to go back and play Company of Heroes and DoW? I just find it hard to imagine that these games even come close to being able to be compared to SC or any game Blizzard has made.
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chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-27 19:52:04
March 27 2009 19:50 GMT
#145
On March 28 2009 04:47 Disarray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2009 04:46 Tinithor wrote:
There is no way in the world that any serious gamer can pick Relic over Blizzard, even when highly intoxicated. DoW2 is the biggest lump of shit that i've ever seen to be called a "game" in my life.

Ahhh well the fact that Blizzard is losing just goes to show how far the gaming community has fallen.... People nowadays seem to care more about flashy lights and "innovation" more than having an actual game to play.



and thats exactly what im talking about.


sad.


eh. i made a few posts over there but none were trying to convince anyone of anything. i've played dow2 a bit and it is fun in its own right. i'm just trying to shoot down ignorant shots at the spamfest/mindless speed that people think BW is.
:O
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
March 27 2009 19:55 GMT
#146
On March 28 2009 04:46 ilistis wrote:
So I read a blog a few weeks back on DOWII. Heck there was even this one guy in school who respects starcraft as a game but was excited for DOWII. So I decide to download it and I'm glad I did.

That game is slow. I played for 15 min in the single player campaign, quit the game, uninstalled and never looked back.

Sometimes I wish I never played starcraft, there is no RTS that is fun to me. Empire total war looks epic but looks so slow. I guess that's what happens with WOW players, they can't play another mmorpg if it isn't wow.


It's fun if you play 3v3 :O Nice team work aspect I think..
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D10
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Brazil3409 Posts
March 27 2009 19:59 GMT
#147
I got rise of nations yesterday and its expansion, seems like in the fastest mode it is pretty fucking hard to really do everything efficiently, of course the micro is worse than SC (units walk in horrible formations and theres squadros for some units), but the macro is excelent.
" We are not humans having spiritual experiences. - We are spirits having human experiences." - Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
lololol
Profile Joined February 2006
5198 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-27 20:04:26
March 27 2009 19:59 GMT
#148
On March 28 2009 04:45 Disarray wrote:
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On March 28 2009 04:42 D10 wrote:
Well Disarray, I would argue that it was kinda like Coke, they brewed the original mix and thought it would be a nice product.


See thats the thing, and In bringing up the argument of DoW vs Starcraft (altho starcraft is DUH the better game) it also brings up the subtle argument of Games Workshop vs Blizzard, in wich blizzard straight up RIPPED sc from wh40k and warcraft from warhammer fantasy. Seriously, Warcraft 1 was supposed to be a warhammer RTS, then it got changed later.


Ripped what?
Orcs and elves? Or I should start claiming GW ripped famous fantasy authors and myths?
Not to mention that WH40K is exactly fantasy copy pasted in space(oh, the overwhelming originality is killing me!), they even have orcs in there ffs, and "orcs in space" was the biggest insult SC(and Blizzard) has ever received and it made them fucking start the game again from scratch.
I bet you'll mention Tyranids, but guess what tyranids didn't look anything like zerg before the 3rd edition, which completely incidentally(!) came out after starcraft.
I'll call Nada.
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
March 27 2009 20:01 GMT
#149
On March 28 2009 04:43 Disarray wrote:
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On March 28 2009 04:36 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Blizzard should still win even if you look at the big picture tho.


Depends on your personal criteria of determining what the better company is really. Good and bad could be said of both. Blizzard made some huge breakthroughs, but sadly, most of the original talent that brought those breakthroughs left, and the remaining new staff has just been riding the success of the name. Think of the breakout amazing things they did, Warcraft, Starcraft Diablo. and what games are on the horizon ? Starcraft 2 and Diablo 3. come on. I won't get into the positives because they're abundantly clear, and most have already been posted.

Relic on the other hand, is actually attempting very new things, if you look at what they've done from DoW1 (taken the basic build/gather rts) to CoH (Completely redone the idea of "massing troops and sending them to their deaths") to DoW2, they really are innovative and doing well in pushing for new things.


The only reason Relic are famous is they cashed in on the Warhammer genre.

They just made a semi-decent RTS called homeworld... which came out a year after Starcraft and is essentially a game that is intriguing for a fortnight at most.
Then they got the Warhammer contract... poored tons of money into the project and made a nice 3d graphics engine. Game is fun to play, single-player is alright but it's so horrible competitively that it has no lasting effect.
CoH.. yeah a decent RTS with some nice features, by this point Relic has lots of experience with RTS games and does a decent job.
Then they make DoW2... awesome graphics, lots of fun to play but so horrifically casual I was bored by the end of the Beta.
How can you compare a company like Relic to Blizzard who totally dominate both the RTS and the MMO genres.
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
March 27 2009 20:04 GMT
#150
The people on the Escapist forums are just total noobs, as soon as SC2 comes out no-one will even remember DoW2.
EVERYONE is going to buy it and the UMS alone will be enough to keep casuals going for ever.
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
bladebrood
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
189 Posts
March 27 2009 20:06 GMT
#151
blizzard was losing 2034 to 2035 when i clicked it, but now i've evened it up again~~
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
March 27 2009 20:06 GMT
#152
On March 28 2009 04:59 lololol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2009 04:45 Disarray wrote:
On March 28 2009 04:42 D10 wrote:
Well Disarray, I would argue that it was kinda like Coke, they brewed the original mix and thought it would be a nice product.


See thats the thing, and In bringing up the argument of DoW vs Starcraft (altho starcraft is DUH the better game) it also brings up the subtle argument of Games Workshop vs Blizzard, in wich blizzard straight up RIPPED sc from wh40k and warcraft from warhammer fantasy. Seriously, Warcraft 1 was supposed to be a warhammer RTS, then it got changed later.


Ripped what?
Orcs and elves? Or I should start claiming GW ripped famous fantasy authors and myths?
Not to mention that WH40K is exactly fantasy copy pasted in space(oh, the overwhelming originality is killing me!), they even have orcs in there ffs, and "orcs in space" was the biggest insult SC(and Blizzard) has ever received and it made them fucking start the game again from scratch.
I bet you'll mention Tyranids, but guess what tyranids didn't look anything like zerg before the 3rd edition, which completely incidentally(!) came out after starcraft.

Orks in space are bloody brilliant lol ;p
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
March 27 2009 20:08 GMT
#153
Just equalized at 2037.

Come on people!
Peace~
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
March 27 2009 20:10 GMT
#154
On March 28 2009 05:08 fanatacist wrote:
Just equalized at 2037.

Come on people!


I have no idea why I want Blizz to win so badly but I do..

Let's goooooo
:O
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
March 27 2009 20:14 GMT
#155
On March 28 2009 05:10 choboPEon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2009 05:08 fanatacist wrote:
Just equalized at 2037.

Come on people!


I have no idea why I want Blizz to win so badly but I do..

Let's goooooo

Yeah me too ; [
Moving it to Brood War so more people will see it!
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Doctorasul
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Romania1145 Posts
March 27 2009 20:15 GMT
#156
What's with this weak sauce 2000ish votes? Come on TL, flex your muscle! And where are the hordes of wow-nerds when you need them? Someone create a hack-bikini-elf in wow named "vote for blizz on [link]" or something to get them to come out of wow for 2 minutes.

Seriously, where are the tens and hundreds of thousands of people from battle net? This is an outrage.
"I believe in Spinoza's god who reveals himself in the harmony of all that exists, but not in a god who concerns himself with the fate and actions of human beings." - Albert Einstein
Tsagacity
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2124 Posts
March 27 2009 20:20 GMT
#157
I would love to see Blizzard add this to one of their "Breaking News" Text entries to their WOW login screen with an hour left to go when it's tied and see the final result be 150,000 to 2,000

Or pretend to have server problems and do a 10 minute restart for the 1,000,000 votes.
"Everyone worse than me at video games is a noob. Everyone better than me doesn't have a life."
SwaY-
Profile Joined March 2009
Dominican Republic463 Posts
March 27 2009 20:25 GMT
#158
yeah tl wtf! I dont know why but I want blizz to win too, I feel like a big 24 year old nerd
Do it beautifully
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
March 27 2009 20:27 GMT
#159
On March 28 2009 05:25 SwaY- wrote:
yeah tl wtf! I dont know why but I want blizz to win too, I feel like a big 24 year old nerd


yeah, i am sitting here eating lunch, watching vods and refreshing the battle

i am geeking the fuck out.
:O
CatioN
Profile Joined February 2009
United States136 Posts
March 27 2009 20:34 GMT
#160
Should post on the major sites lol. like gg.net
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