On February 24 2009 01:57 toshi wrote: why rematch ? he won. now we waiting for next opponent. idra had his chance and he waste it.
exactly. plus he'll get other chances, he still is the only foreign pro gamer, odds are he can still play in any show match a foreign community puts on for that very reason alone.
On the other hand f91 is a solid player , as good maybe better than all top european / usa players ( without nony) , so well he lost but it s not like if he lost to some unknown good player. Did'nt that f91 won some games vs pro on wcg / chineses tourneys? Still he his disapointing everyone and his poor mannered comments / predictions make the thing even worst. It looks like for me that idra reached his limit and will never be really better than he is now. And seems its not enough to be a "top" pro.
On February 23 2009 15:19 never_Nal wrote: IdrA Please do better, learn some decision making from Flash he is great at it, and for god's sake you knew F91 plays out of the box, you should've thought on scouting until you knew what was really going down, even if it means making 5 bunkers so you can defend his "surprise attacks", while you scout, you are the ""White" hope even if we don't like you or your game style, i don't want this to be a flame post but just to make you think about what are you doing wrong, and improve significantly. In StarCraft you need to think, your game can't be pure muscle Memory, Mind Over Mechanics.
making 5 bunkers guarantees you're gonna lose just as hard if theyre powering as making 1 does if theyre going allin.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
oh ma lawd
you kidding? blowing 500 minerals early mid game while your opponent pumps pure drones doesnt totally fuck you over? ya if you're 2x better than them you can come back, just like if you're 2x better than them you can beat an allin that you arent prepared for.
wow that was the saddest response I've ever seen. I can not force myself to hate idra anymore after seeing this hilarious display of social and cognitive incompetence on so many levels...
hmm.. this is how i understand Idra's loss.. What idra has been practicing IMO is same builds over and over in an effort to perfect them. This method of practice has been explained by Artosis's thread on how Koreans practice. Although I have no idea at all what Idra actually focused in his practice in Korea, the result of this show match suggests, at least to me, that he had been practicing different build repetitively to make them more natural to him. So I think he will soon shift focus of his practice to rock-paper-scissor game of builds and so on. This is just what I think happened, no facts here.
On February 24 2009 02:45 barbahaba0 wrote: kind of harsh no? i mean ok he lost but still u make it sound like he ran over your dog
it's not about the fact that he lost, it's about the fact that after he lost he continued to trash talk his opponent and made excuses for why he lost and trying to imply that it was not his fault he lost, it was because F91 was too "dumb" to play correctly (aka the way idra thought he'd play).
Commentary was pretty good, though I didn't like the 'F Nine One' the entire time.
But, commentary with people looking at different things kind of sucks (ie, when you would tell us a dropship just got sniped and we wouldn't see it cause obs wasn't looking at it).
On February 24 2009 01:51 3D.Strelok wrote: To stop sucking, foreigners need to make 1 proteam. It's impossible to compete with koreans who can during 10 hours with 16 people test EVERYTHING THEY WANT. And we can play only ladder games.... I remember what problems i had for preparations to WCG... West was closed to me because of poor internet connection with koreans, many non-kors didn't want to show their strategies, so i had only ladder games left + 4-5 unstable (i mean not with unlimited free time) partners like White-Ra, Dimaga, Dinot, Pomi....
On February 23 2009 20:19 sMi.WiZaRd wrote: if idra thinks f91 is lucky why not make a rematch and prove everyone wrong?
i like this idea, but i'm pretty sure it's never gonna happen
i would be happy to
On February 23 2009 21:13 MaGic~PhiL wrote: Yes. Let's break the rule of KOTH and give Idra a ''rematch'' instead of seeking for a new worthy opponent for F91.
it wouldn't be breaking any rules, Broodsport is not KOTH like the normal liquibtions are, any 2 players can be chosen for Broodsport's
and i think idra vs f91 rematch would be a great Broodsport #2. hope it happens
oh and rekrul this thread is lame. bash foreigners because they aren't practicing or if they quit prematurely, but don't try and goad them out of korea while they're still there and working hard, please.
edit: ninja editing this in, i don't want a rematch because i think the first match was illegitimate.. it was fully legitimate. i just want to see 2 great players play again and there'd obviously be tons of hype!
On February 24 2009 03:27 funkie wrote: Why would a rematch be "great"? Idra got raped 5-2 fair and square, fuck the people who can't accept this fact.
IdrA...eat shit faggot.
ok... lets not go down this route. funkie youre the king of subtle flaming.
On February 24 2009 03:27 funkie wrote: Why would a rematch be "great"? Idra got raped 5-2 fair and square, fuck the people who can't accept this fact.
IdrA...eat shit faggot.
Agree with everything except the flame. I just say let this be a trial against idra that he needs to work on his playing a whole lot better. He is in CJ and I also expected a lot from him.
On February 23 2009 15:19 never_Nal wrote: IdrA Please do better, learn some decision making from Flash he is great at it, and for god's sake you knew F91 plays out of the box, you should've thought on scouting until you knew what was really going down, even if it means making 5 bunkers so you can defend his "surprise attacks", while you scout, you are the ""White" hope even if we don't like you or your game style, i don't want this to be a flame post but just to make you think about what are you doing wrong, and improve significantly. In StarCraft you need to think, your game can't be pure muscle Memory, Mind Over Mechanics.
making 5 bunkers guarantees you're gonna lose just as hard if theyre powering as making 1 does if theyre going allin.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
oh ma lawd
you kidding? blowing 500 minerals early mid game while your opponent pumps pure drones doesnt totally fuck you over? ya if you're 2x better than them you can come back, just like if you're 2x better than them you can beat an allin that you arent prepared for.
wow that was the saddest response I've ever seen. I can not force myself to hate idra anymore after seeing this hilarious display of social and cognitive incompetence on so many levels...
What's sad about this is Idra says F91 was so noob he had 3k/3k built up without spending it yet he claims that making 1 bunker guarantees him a loss
To the rematch: what it would be good for? Idra had so many chances to prove himself and his korean training worth, WCG USA, TSL, now this. He didn't succeed in any of this. His eventual win in rematch wouldn't mean a thing, his eventual loss would just seal the deal even more, there would be excuses again and you could ask for re-rematch again.