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NovaTheFeared
United States7229 Posts
947k 45% Obama 93% reporting 200,000 vote margin for Clinton at this point. That's a big dent in the popular vote lead of Obama which RCP has about 500,000 without including Florida. With Florida in the calculation the popular vote difference is a mere 26,000 out of some 28 million+ cast. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
On April 23 2008 12:39 NovaTheFeared wrote: 1,148k 55% Clinton 947k 45% Obama 93% reporting 200,000 vote margin for Clinton at this point. That's a big dent in the popular vote lead of Obama which RCP has about 500,000 without including Florida. With Florida in the calculation the popular vote difference is a mere 26,000 out of some 28 million+ cast. Hopefully Obama will smash Clinton in NC, then follow up with a 1, 2 punch by taking Oregon, and S. Dakota. | ||
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Rev0lution
United States1805 Posts
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NovaTheFeared
United States7229 Posts
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HaXxorIzed
Australia8434 Posts
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kyari_
Romania558 Posts
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QuanticHawk
United States32089 Posts
On April 23 2008 13:09 Rev0lution wrote: why won't she fucking quit already. Seriously. I hope the party fucking blacks her out of politics in the future for dicking htis over so much. Everyone else is saying she has no chance without totally fracturing the party, but she insists she still has a shot. It's so fucking stupid. | ||
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FreeZEternal
Korea (South)3396 Posts
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Servolisk
United States5241 Posts
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aRod
United States758 Posts
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teamsolid
Canada3668 Posts
About one in five voters said the race of the candidates was among the top factors in deciding how to vote. About as many said that about the candidates' gender. White voters who said race was a factor supported Clinton over Obama by 3-to-1, while whites who said race wasn't a factor divided between Clinton and Obama more evenly. But race and gender played out as factors in very different ways, with Obama's race apparently a negative for him among white voters, while Clinton's gender was a positive factor for her among men and women who said it contributed to their votes. Those who said gender was a factor tended to favor Clinton, while Obama did better among those who said gender was not a factor. http://www.newsweek.com/id/133287/page/2 How the hell is race still the top issue for 20% of the Democrats in Pennsylvania? I thought we were living in the 21st century. That's honestly quite pathetic (and we're only looking at those who admitted it). Racists are still keeping Clinton in this race. | ||
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Rev0lution
United States1805 Posts
On April 23 2008 23:15 FreeZEternal wrote: are you fucking serious? Obama? OMFG? If he wins, I am 100% voting for McCain. NO WAY. sarcasm? | ||
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Scorch
Austria3371 Posts
On April 23 2008 23:34 teamsolid wrote: How the hell is race still the top issue for 20% of the Democrats in Pennsylvania? I thought we were living in the 20th century. We aren't, it's the 21st century  But yeah, I get your point. I'd imagine things like race, gender or religion are even a lot more important among republicans. | ||
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Rev0lution
United States1805 Posts
We spend billions in this war that has no goal and no end. Mccain thinks he is a moderate NOW, but once he is president the right wing pressure will dominate his domestic and foreign policy. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32089 Posts
On April 23 2008 23:34 teamsolid wrote: RACE AND GENDER MATTER, BUT IN DIFFERENT WAYS About one in five voters said the race of the candidates was among the top factors in deciding how to vote. About as many said that about the candidates' gender. White voters who said race was a factor supported Clinton over Obama by 3-to-1, while whites who said race wasn't a factor divided between Clinton and Obama more evenly. But race and gender played out as factors in very different ways, with Obama's race apparently a negative for him among white voters, while Clinton's gender was a positive factor for her among men and women who said it contributed to their votes. Those who said gender was a factor tended to favor Clinton, while Obama did better among those who said gender was not a factor. http://www.newsweek.com/id/133287/page/2 How the hell is race still the top issue for 20% of the Democrats in Pennsylvania? I thought we were living in the 21st century. That's honestly quite pathetic (and we're only looking at those who admitted it). Racists are still keeping Clinton in this race. Question: have you ever been to bum-fuck, PA, where a lot of those voters are from? It's all hicks in the sticks outside of the developed areas. It's the exact same thing as South Jersey. A bunch of rednecks who think they are in TN. Racism is still alive and well there. I went out there last yea and must have seen a thousand Confederate flags. | ||
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teamsolid
Canada3668 Posts
On April 24 2008 00:14 Hawk wrote: Question: have you ever been to bum-fuck, PA, where a lot of those voters are from? It's all hicks in the sticks outside of the developed areas. It's the exact same thing as South Jersey. A bunch of rednecks who think they are in TN. Racism is still alive and well there. I went out there last yea and must have seen a thousand Confederate flags. No, and I sure as hell don't plan to. I'm just pissed that racists are keeping Hillary alive here. If Obama was white, he'd have it wrapped up months ago already. It also gives me some chills about the general election, because I'm sure the % of Repubs that are white supremacists are even higher. Voting McCain in would be a disaster for not just the US, but the world as well. Ohio's the only hick state that's a swing state right? | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
however, she is only taking this position as convenience, and her true heart lies in neoliberal land, with some corporatist tendencies. now, this in itself may not be a big deal, since she is so calculating and thus manipulatable by the given political situation, but it does matter as to the strategy she takes and the consequent political realignment of factions. in the democratic party, she'll bring some pretty nonsensical conflicts, going up against obama complicates things enormously. the only worry about obama that i had was that he could not win, and was not committed enough to serious change that's a fundamental departure from the old political vision. but, it seems that he could win, and although i do not expect to bank on his rhetorics, after some conversation with people more knowledgeable about contemporary politics, i see obama is the closest to a social democrat out of the field. taking the position that he does, and being what he is, probably will cause good things to happen in terms of political movements. so yea, hillary should quit already. although personally, i can understand her situation, and this "should" is meant only as political evaluation. it would not be fair to her personally to quit. i imagine most people who say this have the image of hillary as a cranky bitch or something similar, and that really is not fair. politics being what it is, hillary is playing by the books. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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SK.Testie
Canada11084 Posts
If they are, I demand you invade yourself and take out the republican voters. Focus on the evangelicals first. Though it will be a tough battle, they are the ones with most of the guns and religious ferver, right?? el o el | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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