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Unentschieden
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany1471 Posts
February 19 2008 23:29 GMT
#641
I was just subtily hinting that Blizzard is trying to make the game fun for EVERYONE, or at least most of us.
BlackStar
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Netherlands3029 Posts
February 20 2008 01:40 GMT
#642
If your hands hurt then you don't have proper technique. Relax your hands.

My head starts to hurt after some Starcraft and my face turns a bit more red.
prOxi.swAMi
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Australia3091 Posts
February 20 2008 02:12 GMT
#643
On February 20 2008 05:29 Unentschieden wrote:
Shure the mayority of Players isn´t competative and have minor APM. But what does that mean for the designers?

It means those that argue "MBS allows more time to do other things" are full of shit because they're not even using the time they've GOT. It's like having a plate full of spaghetti and asking for more spaghetti. (best i could come up with)
Basically, use all the time you've got before u start asking for more.
Oh no
jngngshk321
Profile Joined April 2003
Korea (South)457 Posts
February 20 2008 04:28 GMT
#644
If they had a decent level of APM (100ish) their arguments would be worth listening to, because it means they actually are using their time effectively (meaning they're at the point where they can focus on strategy), but try playing a decent game of SC (bgh, low money whatever) and see just how hard it is to get 40 APM.
jngngshk321
Profile Joined April 2003
Korea (South)457 Posts
February 20 2008 04:29 GMT
#645
On February 20 2008 07:46 Klouvious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2008 06:39 0xDEADBEEF wrote:

When I play SC1 on LAN with some friends of mine who really suck at the game, my hand still hurts after a few hours of playing it. It's the only game making my hands hurt.


A crazy idea just popped into my mind as soon as I read this part, its really stupid but i can't fight the urge to post it:

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there are so many trolls on this thread now.

Why are you playing SC until your hand hurts? A few hours? My hand would hurt too if I played any game 4 hours straight.
0xDEADBEEF
Profile Joined September 2007
Germany1235 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-20 06:47:35
February 20 2008 06:47 GMT
#646
It's not always, but after 3-4 hours of being concentrated playing it, then it can happen.
It never happens with any other game though. And besides gaming I'm often on the comp as well. And I don't have RSI or something.
Well. I'm just trying to show you that I don't really find that whole "keyboard dexterity" thing fun, and I have approximately 100 APM more than your average noob from the Blizzard forums.
It's really just about the fun for me, and for the resulting inability to use some of the more advanced micro features of the game. Whenever I play SC1, I macro like 80% of the time. I'm even called a macro whore by some. While it's somewhat funny when you overwhelm your opponent, the simple fact that you always have to spend so much time on macro-mechnics doesn't feel satisfying to me. And if I don't do it I never have enough units.
Maybe SC1 is balanced in macro vs. micro for progamer APM levels of 400+, I don't know, but for my 100-160 it's really NOT. But I want it to be.
HamerD
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom1922 Posts
February 21 2008 00:01 GMT
#647
Forgive me but if you are good then you shouldn't play noobs, so you shouldn't have to be irritated that it still takes effort to beat them
"Oh no, we've drawn Judge Schneider" "Is that bad?" "Well, he's had it in for me ever since I kinda ran over his dog" "You did?" "Yeah...if you replace the word *kinda* with *repeatedly*...and the word *dog* with son"
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
February 21 2008 00:46 GMT
#648
Ok i think its about time to call a time out on MBS Discussion II....id love to just ban anyone who supports MBS but i guess that wouldn't be fair ~_~.

I will remind you guys just to keep it civil - theres nothing wrong with getting a little heated but keep it to a tone you wouldn't mind your mother hearing.
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