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Spartan
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2030 Posts
December 12 2007 02:15 GMT
#1
Okay, so my friend showed me a few replays from his games on ICCup and wanted me to check if they were hacking. So I checked them and apparently the ICCup antihack doesn't work, or maybe I don't understand how it works. I thought it wasn't supposed to let you play if you have a hack running, but the replays I saw were indeed ICCup games. And the hackers were clearly using the automine/autobuild hack, which is coupled only with a maphack program.
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tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3700 Posts
December 12 2007 02:18 GMT
#2
There's at least a maphack out that works with ICCup launcher, and according to its maker: "ICCup Launcher is not a viable "anti-hack"."

I have no idea how it works, but I was told that they couldn't add APMAlert in as a plugin because it modified memory. So, I would figure it scans certain parts of SC's memory and makes sure they match up, but who knows.
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Spartan
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2030 Posts
December 12 2007 02:22 GMT
#3
Oh, and I know its a hack from the replay because it is the method we've used to catch at least 50 players hacking this past season at VGT.
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statix
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States1760 Posts
December 12 2007 02:42 GMT
#4
how do you know its a game on iccup from the replay?
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 12 2007 02:45 GMT
#5
It probably takes programmers 3-4 hours tops to create a new working hack every time they update the ICCUP launcher. seriously the antihack is just a placebo to make you feel safe. you really are not safe.

the hackers own the world.
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V_DrOp)Reaver
Profile Joined June 2006
United States64 Posts
December 12 2007 02:52 GMT
#6
autobuild and automine hack? maybe they just used shift click to stack moves
jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5502 Posts
December 12 2007 02:55 GMT
#7
A simple search of BWhacks will find you working hacks. Its impossible to make a perfect anti-hack, same goes for anti-virus, etc.
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Spartan
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2030 Posts
December 12 2007 03:01 GMT
#8
On December 12 2007 11:42 statix wrote:
how do you know its a game on iccup from the replay?

Match details from ICCup: http://iccup.com/details.php?match_id=132058
Replay uploaded: http://encurl.com/x2

On December 12 2007 11:52 V_DrOp)Reaver wrote:
autobuild and automine hack? maybe they just used shift click to stack moves

Open the replay in BWChart and then read the following link and compare.
http://encurl.com/i1

On December 12 2007 11:45 Xeris wrote:
It probably takes programmers 3-4 hours tops to create a new working hack every time they update the ICCUP launcher. seriously the antihack is just a placebo to make you feel safe. you really are not safe.

the hackers own the world.

I know, its a sad truth huh. I just find funny how some people say the only think ICCup has over WGTour, and what makes it better, is the antihack.. wait, excuse me, the NON-working antihack.
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BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
December 12 2007 03:08 GMT
#9
iCCup's AH is down at the moment.
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-WGT-Stars-
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States888 Posts
December 12 2007 03:40 GMT
#10
AH works for about a week then Bwhacks comes out with a new one after that :!
And I find it kind of funny, I find it kind of sad, The dreams in which I'm dying are the best I've ever had.
MoNKeYSpanKeR
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2869 Posts
December 12 2007 04:40 GMT
#11
stars do NOT MENTION THAT SITE BY NAME. ONLY BY REFERENCE TO WITHOUT INLCUDING HE ACUTAL NAME, THX.
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NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7222 Posts
December 12 2007 04:57 GMT
#12
What the iccup AH does is stop the relentless whines of "hack" from n00bs who can't understand why they lost to the better player. This allows the admins to focus more closely on real hack accusations instead of being flooded by 1000 such claims a day. It has no chance of stopping the real hackers unless they are lazy enough to use old, known, hacks.

Even a fake AH is better than none because of the suppression of the crybabies.
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Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9103 Posts
December 12 2007 04:58 GMT
#13
On December 12 2007 12:40 -WGT-Stars- wrote:
AH works for about a week then Bwhacks comes out with a new one after that :!


Why doesn't someone do to that site like what happened to PGT?
IzzyCraft
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4487 Posts
December 12 2007 05:03 GMT
#14
just get a hack like it and run w/e play a game with a friend and see if you dont get kicked or dont get a loss for doing it
I have ass for brains so,
even when I shit I'm droping knowledge.
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6177 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-12 05:13:50
December 12 2007 05:11 GMT
#15
Antihack has been disabled for some time now due the server upgrading.
Any of these players did NOT have AH connected when this game was played
(12th Dec).

And even when it's working, you can play without antihack. Antihack is a voluntery for those who wants to get more points from MOTWs.

PLEASE DO some investigations before you post all this shit to entire internet.
araav
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Armenia1590 Posts
December 12 2007 06:59 GMT
#16
On December 12 2007 12:01 Spartan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2007 11:52 V_DrOp)Reaver wrote:
autobuild and automine hack? maybe they just used shift click to stack moves

Open the replay in BWChart and then read the following link and compare.
http://encurl.com/i1


ahahaha, the arguments and pictures there made me laugh. this were very-very weak arguments: I have so many replays where they (pros) do it in the 5'th frame...
the only valid arguemnt I can see is that it's hard to do with internet. But you know, SC is a peer-to-peer connection oriented game, so it's well possible, that they were playing from the same Lan or the latency between them was very small.
The flower that blooms in adversity is the most rare and beautiful of all.
Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-12 07:03:35
December 12 2007 07:03 GMT
#17
On December 12 2007 13:58 Jonoman92 wrote:
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On December 12 2007 12:40 -WGT-Stars- wrote:
AH works for about a week then Bwhacks comes out with a new one after that :!


Why doesn't someone do to that site like what happened to PGT?

you want to attempt to HACK a site that's CRAWLING with HACKERS?

Might as well send suicide bombers into Iraq..... oh wait
SAY YES TO STIM KIDS!!! XD
Physician *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4146 Posts
December 12 2007 07:15 GMT
#18
On December 12 2007 16:03 Live2Win wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2007 13:58 Jonoman92 wrote:
On December 12 2007 12:40 -WGT-Stars- wrote: AH works for about a week then Bwhacks comes out with a new one after that :!
Why doesn't someone do to that site like what happened to PGT?
you want to attempt to HACK a site that's CRAWLING with HACKERS? Might as well send suicide bombers into Iraq..... oh wait

Actually it has been hacked several times, successfully too - but from what I've heard, they enjoy the sparring.
"I have beheld the births of negative-suns and borne witness to the entropy of entire realities...."
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
December 12 2007 07:21 GMT
#19
Its impossible to make a perfect anti-hack, same goes for anti-virus, etc.

Perfect anti-hack: Play with people you trust; Play on a LAN; Play with a referee; Force a check that makes sure only files which have been okay'd can exist in the StarCraft directory.

Perfect anti-virus: Use discretion when downloading files (I've downloaded tonnes of things over the past few years, and never had a virus). If you don't feel nervous running an .exe from a source you've never heard of, then sorry, there is no perfect anti-dumb-ass.

Maybe it was unnecessary for me to post this, but I'm sick of people having such absolute, and negative beliefs. You're right, there's no artificial computer program capable of recognising new threats and inventing solutions on it's own yet. But that doesn't stop the computer in you head from picking up the slack.
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Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27149 Posts
December 12 2007 07:38 GMT
#20
On December 12 2007 14:11 Piste wrote:
Antihack has been disabled for some time now due the server upgrading.
Any of these players did NOT have AH connected when this game was played
(12th Dec).

And even when it's working, you can play without antihack. Antihack is a voluntery for those who wants to get more points from MOTWs.

PLEASE DO some investigations before you post all this shit to entire internet.


Amen.
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Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
December 12 2007 08:40 GMT
#21
On December 12 2007 16:15 Physician wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2007 16:03 Live2Win wrote:
On December 12 2007 13:58 Jonoman92 wrote:
On December 12 2007 12:40 -WGT-Stars- wrote: AH works for about a week then Bwhacks comes out with a new one after that :!
Why doesn't someone do to that site like what happened to PGT?
you want to attempt to HACK a site that's CRAWLING with HACKERS? Might as well send suicide bombers into Iraq..... oh wait

Actually it has been hacked several times, successfully too - but from what I've heard, they enjoy the sparring.

lol. "Oh you hacked us? Let's go guys"
SAY YES TO STIM KIDS!!! XD
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