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Obi-1.Kulinobi
Profile Joined March 2007
Czech Republic162 Posts
May 21 2007 19:46 GMT
#41
i think there will be 4th race but just for single
minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
May 21 2007 19:49 GMT
#42
On May 21 2007 15:20 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2007 15:17 DesOndaes wrote:
It's a rumor going around, I personally think they could do it to add something new to the StarCraft world. 4 races instead of 3 would be insane.


Assuming you mean the literal sense of the word "insane", which is to say "they'd have to be mentally unstable and clinically ill to consider doing this", I agree with you.



QFT
Kacas
Profile Joined July 2003
Brazil3143 Posts
May 21 2007 21:49 GMT
#43
the 4th race will be a hybrid of protoss terran and zerg that left the battleground a long time ago..
so..they still have the old units like dragoon ^^v
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shimmy
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Poland997 Posts
May 21 2007 23:04 GMT
#44
On May 21 2007 21:41 [angst]chraej wrote:

the "secret" campaign mission where you find evidence of merged protoss/zerg in tanks.



Sorry I couldnt help myself.

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Hell hath no fury like the vast robot armies of a woman scorned.
Zironic
Profile Joined May 2007
Sweden341 Posts
May 21 2007 23:06 GMT
#45
On May 22 2007 08:04 shimmy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2007 21:41 [angst]chraej wrote:

the "secret" campaign mission where you find evidence of merged protoss/zerg in tanks.



Sorry I couldnt help myself.



Scary stuff
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
May 21 2007 23:07 GMT
#46
On May 21 2007 15:07 Excalibur_Z wrote:
"Some say?" Nobody's saying that. There are only going to be 3 races. There may be a fourth faction in single-player or something, but that's not relevant to us.


Yeah, I'm assuming there's going to be an introduction with the Xel'Naga and the "hybrid race" created by Duran, but they'll be mini-races like the Naga at best.
^-^
Zironic
Profile Joined May 2007
Sweden341 Posts
May 21 2007 23:10 GMT
#47
On May 22 2007 08:07 Equinox_kr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2007 15:07 Excalibur_Z wrote:
"Some say?" Nobody's saying that. There are only going to be 3 races. There may be a fourth faction in single-player or something, but that's not relevant to us.


Yeah, I'm assuming there's going to be an introduction with the Xel'Naga and the "hybrid race" created by Duran, but they'll be mini-races like the Naga at best.


I agree, doubtful they want more then three races for melee play.
DesOndaes
Profile Joined May 2005
United States61 Posts
May 21 2007 23:36 GMT
#48
You never know with Blizzard, I'm sure they will have something up their sleeve.
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
May 21 2007 23:47 GMT
#49
Well, as much evident is the fact that it's 3 races, I don't know. Blizzard are the masters of disguise and they could as well storm in with a new race in half a year just to make us look like WTF?
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
Purind
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Canada3562 Posts
May 22 2007 00:24 GMT
#50
I heard that the 4th race is going to be a bunch of moles.
Trucy Wright is hot
minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
May 22 2007 00:27 GMT
#51
No, no 4th race. Matter settled.

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[angst]chraej
Profile Joined January 2006
1445 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-22 00:50:51
May 22 2007 00:40 GMT
#52
On May 22 2007 08:04 shimmy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2007 21:41 [angst]chraej wrote:

the "secret" campaign mission where you find evidence of merged protoss/zerg in tanks.



Sorry I couldnt help myself.

[image loading]


HAHAHA, love it.


here is an upload of the video footage for the bonus mission:


how CANT they add more onto the story line?
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pat777
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States356 Posts
May 23 2007 07:46 GMT
#53
Hmm, what if a zerg and protoss team could merge units into hybrids? That would be interesting.
Prose
Profile Joined June 2004
Canada314 Posts
May 23 2007 08:17 GMT
#54
On May 22 2007 04:29 b_unnies wrote:
hmmm can anyone quote blizzard that said there is no new race? according to the starcraft2.com faq's it says

"How many races are in StarCraft II?

In StarCraft II, players will see the return of the Protoss, Terran, and Zerg races. Our goal is to ensure that all the factions in the game play even more distinctly from one another than in the original StarCraft, while still maintaining the fine balance that helped make StarCraft such a classic. We're also introducing a number of new units to each race, as well as modifying some of the familiar units returning in StarCraft II. With these design refinements and the new features we have planned for the single-player and multiplayer elements of the game, StarCraft II will offer a next-generation StarCraft experience."

it says "players will see the return of protoss, terran, and zerg" but it did not say there [are] only 3 races, or there is no 4th race


Exactly. Carefully chosen words by Blizzard. A fourth race would be grand. Of course balancing four races would be difficult. It could be that the fourth race would be unplayable...until the Expansion Pack.

Perhaps the shift towards spacial/dimensional specialization by the Protoss will serve to differentiate it from the psionic and feral flavour of the Hybrids? Could the Hybrids be the eventual manifestation of Xel'Naga?
April showers bring May flowers bring June bugs bring JulyZerg.
Eggy-X17
Profile Joined November 2005
United States133 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-23 08:43:27
May 23 2007 08:29 GMT
#55
There was a round table discussion with the developers (check out Yahoo's streaming coverage).

The developers said explicitly there was not going to be a 4th race.

Time for an opinion from every Harry, Dick and Jane moment.

/me clears his throat

An additional race added would increase the complexity for balancing.

3 races:
(x * y, x * z, z * y)

Adding a 4th:
(x * y, x * z, z * y, a * x, a * y, a * z)

Just adding one more race, doubles the balancing work they may have to do. They started in '03. All we know is some time after Frozen Throne's expansion pack. It could have been mid '03, late '03, don't know. I don't really care either. So three to four years to develop the game. I'm being generous with four years. Let's say three and a half. They developed supposedly a new gaming engine, first RTS to utilize the Havoc physics engine. On top of that creating the new units, converting stuff over, designing phase or essentially 'gathering all their resources' to pull together something like this is hard enough with three races.

It's very difficult for me to imagine they could have squeezed a fourth race in during that time frame.

And finally for reiterating purposes, Blizzard employees explicitly said there were only three in the round table discussions.

I don't think they lie. They use artifice for sure when they announced, "at presently we have nothing yada yada we'll announce junk in the future" (paraphrased) when they were keeping Starcraft II under wraps as a surprise.

(lawyer talk) Future being only two weeks long.

When answering the interviewer's questions concerning a 4th race, there was no artifice or trickery of the type comparable to the SC 2 announcement. It was just an outright blatant, "3 races" by one of the lead developers.
Jack Kerouac, "I saw that my life was a vast glowing empty page and I could do anything I wanted."
ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-23 09:28:57
May 23 2007 09:06 GMT
#56
SC2 is being developed with professional play and the broadcast of progaming/ESport events in mind. They will not do anything extreme simply to fulfill a plot point in the story.

The answer is that no one knows the answer. This is all wild speculation and will remain that way until we hear something from blizzard that leads us to believe otherwise.
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Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
May 23 2007 09:36 GMT
#57
the secret campaign hybrid mission reminds me of how movies will often set it up for the possibility of a sequel. it's just opening some options for them, and it's an option they opted not to take (see round table developer Q&A from WWI)
ModeratorBlame yourself or God
shadowenergy
Profile Joined May 2007
Australia78 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-23 09:48:19
May 23 2007 09:38 GMT
#58
On May 23 2007 17:29 Eggy-X17 wrote:
There was a round table discussion with the developers (check out Yahoo's streaming coverage).

The developers said explicitly there was not going to be a 4th race.
.


yes exactly, its time to stop all the rumors/theories, especially since blizzard specifically said there wont be a 4th race.

which video
for those of you who still havent seen it, please watch the roundtable video, either streaming or download:
http://au.media.pc.ign.com/media/850/850126/vids_1.html

what minute to watch in the hour long video
watch from minute 29:50 (in the streaming version in the above link) to roughly 30:47 (I actually skimmed thru it to find the exact spot, where the designer discusses the secret mission and no 4th playable race)

whats mentioned in short
the designer specifically mentions that even though they had the secret mission in BW where the hybrid event occurs, there will only be 3 playable races in sc2. The reason behind this is that they want to work on making the 3 races more distinct from each other. He also stated that the hybrid storyline might appear as part of the sc2 story.
programmers programs beating progamers.
Eggy-X17
Profile Joined November 2005
United States133 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-23 09:49:48
May 23 2007 09:47 GMT
#59
I almost want to say they, the developers, sounded "irked" by that question. They sounded annoyed. It's like there was this expectation to make a 4th race, and they didn't meet that expectation. So when they answered the interviewer, they were a bit on the defensive side and supporting their arguments as to why three was enough.
Jack Kerouac, "I saw that my life was a vast glowing empty page and I could do anything I wanted."
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
May 23 2007 09:49 GMT
#60
yes i agree w/ you Eggy, and I understand where they're coming from completely and would also be annoyed. In fact I'm annoyed anytime someone in TL or anywhere says they want a 4th race, it would only hinder and ruin the nature of the game.
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