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ROOTheognis
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States4482 Posts
May 23 2007 10:08 GMT
#61
Blizzard has held out on telling about SC2 for how long now?

what makes you think they arent surprising u with a new race?

.......

seriously..
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Physician *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4146 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-23 10:21:30
May 23 2007 10:21 GMT
#62
On May 21 2007 16:08 ChaosKnight wrote: Expansion Pack
Agree.
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Eggy-X17
Profile Joined November 2005
United States133 Posts
May 23 2007 10:25 GMT
#63
You're confusing omission of truth as being the same as an out right lie. They've never out right stated a lie. They were quiet for sure in regards to whether they were working on Starcraft 2 for several years, but they never said, "We're not working on Starcraft 2." Find a press release where they explicitly state they're not working on Starcraft 2 if you don't believe me.

They're a company that is very concerned about "PR". They're not going to lie to their gamer base. They'll omit information however to build suspense.
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Physician *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4146 Posts
May 23 2007 10:27 GMT
#64
On May 23 2007 19:25 Eggy-X17 wrote:
You're confusing omission of truth as being the same as an out right lie. They've never out right stated a lie. They were quiet for sure in regards to whether they were working on Starcraft 2 for several years, but they never said, "We're not working on Starcraft 2." Find a press release where they explicitly state they're not working on Starcraft 2 if you don't believe me.They're a company that is very concerned about "PR". They're not going to lie to their gamer base. They'll omit information however to build suspense.


Eggy said it ~
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KodoU-
Profile Joined November 2006
United States129 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-23 10:35:38
May 23 2007 10:34 GMT
#65
On May 23 2007 19:08 YoiChiBow wrote:
Blizzard has held out on telling about SC2 for how long now?

what makes you think they arent surprising u with a new race?

.......

seriously..


Eggy makes me think they wont have a new race.
he has good points.
you have an idiotically invalid statement.


ya. Personally i dont think there is going to be another race in SC2 maybe in the storyline but not melee play.
...
Critters? lmfao. Thats what i wanna see.
Someone said Nobody has added another race to an RTS.
hey Please think for a minute. Slap yourself if you dont know where you went astray. than Read this.
+ Show Spoiler +
Warcraft to warcraft3 dumbass. they went from 2 to 5 races? i think its 5... i havnt played tft in forever but either way. just dont talk ^^;


Edit: Typo t.t
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Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
May 23 2007 11:12 GMT
#66
On May 23 2007 19:21 Physician wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2007 16:08 ChaosKnight wrote: Expansion Pack
Agree.

entropy you too? comeon has Blizzard EVER introduced a new race with an expansion pack? theyve had 3 RTS expansion packs and all of them added new units and upgrades and other more minor features
ModeratorBlame yourself or God
Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
May 23 2007 11:25 GMT
#67
On May 23 2007 19:34 KodoU- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2007 19:08 YoiChiBow wrote:
Blizzard has held out on telling about SC2 for how long now?

what makes you think they arent surprising u with a new race?

.......

seriously..


Eggy makes me think they wont have a new race.
he has good points.
you have an idiotically invalid statement.


ya. Personally i dont think there is going to be another race in SC2 maybe in the storyline but not melee play.
...
Critters? lmfao. Thats what i wanna see.
Someone said Nobody has added another race to an RTS.
hey Please think for a minute. Slap yourself if you dont know where you went astray. than Read this.
+ Show Spoiler +
Warcraft to warcraft3 dumbass. they went from 2 to 5 races? i think its 5... i havnt played tft in forever but either way. just dont talk ^^;


Edit: Typo t.t

actually it's 2 to 4. But for WoW they added like a bunch in their expansion pack... but that's different since it's not a RTS game and much easier to add things
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Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-23 11:31:46
May 23 2007 11:31 GMT
#68
adding a new race to WoW is nothing, all they have to do is create a new gfx model and some new racial bonuses.

adding a new race to an RTS is similar to adding a new class to WoW which they did not do (though adding a new race is a much tougher task i'd say)
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shadowenergy
Profile Joined May 2007
Australia78 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-23 15:23:28
May 23 2007 15:09 GMT
#69
I wish they added a new class to WOW, only reason I stopped playing wow is that nothing really new has come to WOW in ages(since TBC).
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Aerox
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Malaysia1213 Posts
May 23 2007 15:45 GMT
#70
On May 23 2007 20:12 Raist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2007 19:21 Physician wrote:
On May 21 2007 16:08 ChaosKnight wrote: Expansion Pack
Agree.

entropy you too? comeon has Blizzard EVER introduced a new race with an expansion pack? theyve had 3 RTS expansion packs and all of them added new units and upgrades and other more minor features


That's why if it happens, it's gonna be a good surprise. Seeing now as it looks impossible to add a 4th race with the balance and all... (but it can be done).
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humblegar
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Norway883 Posts
May 23 2007 16:19 GMT
#71
ign sc2 preview:

"Note that there will only be three playable races in StarCraft 2, the Protoss, Terran, and Zerg, and the storyline takes place four years after the original."


Official faq

"How many races are in StarCraft II? In StarCraft II, players will see the return of the Protoss, Terran, and Zerg races. Our goal is to ensure that all the factions in the game play even more distinctly from one another than in the original StarCraft, while still maintaining the fine balance that helped make StarCraft such a classic. We're also introducing a number of new units to each race, as well as modifying some of the familiar units returning in StarCraft II. With these design refinements and the new features we have planned for the single-player and multiplayer elements of the game, StarCraft II will offer a next-generation StarCraft experience."


Good luck finding better references backing up a fourth race. You guys can talk about the expansion pack of course, but I really doubt Blizzard has put energy into deciding the expansion pack's content already, it would mostly be a waste of time until they know how sc2 turns out.
DrainX
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Sweden3187 Posts
May 23 2007 16:31 GMT
#72
Balancing !3=6 matchups is a hell of a lot easier than balancing !4=10 matchups. I see no reason why anyone would want to add a fourth race before you atleast have 3 working balanced races. Maybe in an expantion or something, if at all.
Ganfei1
Profile Joined January 2007
China667 Posts
May 23 2007 16:41 GMT
#73
It took me a moment to realize that you were putting the factorial sign before the integer rather than after it. They would add a 4th race for fun, like the Naga in War3 as someone mentioned.
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Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
May 23 2007 17:18 GMT
#74
I don't really understand what Drain means with that honestly. First 4! = 24, not 10. Second the number of (non-mirror) matchup with n races would be n(n-1)/2, so 3 and 6. Or n(n+1)/2, 6 and 10, if you by some reason count the mirror matchups as well.

But yes, it'd be a lot for them to balance! But with all the hard counters the are introducing it should be easier... Still I do not think we will see a 4:th race for a long while (in pvp). And I have absolutely no facts to back that up.
DrainX
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Sweden3187 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-23 17:32:20
May 23 2007 17:24 GMT
#75
On May 24 2007 02:18 Cascade wrote:
I don't really understand what Drain means with that honestly. First 4! = 24, not 10. Second the number of (non-mirror) matchup with n races would be n(n-1)/2, so 3 and 6. Or n(n+1)/2, 6 and 10, if you by some reason count the mirror matchups as well.

But yes, it'd be a lot for them to balance! But with all the hard counters the are introducing it should be easier... Still I do not think we will see a 4:th race for a long while (in pvp). And I have absolutely no facts to back that up.

Yes sorry ofc I mean the triangle numbers, I mixed up 1*2*3*4 and 1+2+3+4. And yes im counting the mirror matchups. Imo in starcraft only 4 of the 6 matchups are balanced TvP TvZ PvZ and TvT. Both PvP and ZvZ need more work. Im hoping all 6 matchups will be balanced in SC2. Adding a fourth race would only mean a lot more balancework. Im not talking about balance as in both races being equaly able to win which is obvious they are in a mirrormatch. Im talking about a balance in the gameplay so that one strategy or BO isnt better than all the other. So most of the units can be used etc. We dont want another ZvZ in sc2 plz
Jaxx
Profile Joined July 2004
Slovakia758 Posts
May 23 2007 17:34 GMT
#76
I remember reading sth about secret mission before, but I didn't have time so - how do I get there?
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
May 23 2007 17:39 GMT
#77
True, the mirrors are maybe balances, but I guess you still need to work to get them funny...

Secret mission: one of the last Z mission is to kill a protoss base within 30 mins. Do it in less than 20, and you go to the secret mission. Use the guardians to get an expansion asap.
shadowenergy
Profile Joined May 2007
Australia78 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-23 17:48:38
May 23 2007 17:40 GMT
#78
On May 24 2007 02:34 Jaxx wrote:
I remember reading sth about secret mission before, but I didn't have time so - how do I get there?


heres the video on utube and remeber watch the video I linked on page 3 that clearly states that theres no 4th race(only 3 races), its worth watching for lots of nice info .

hybrid mission
part 1 of 5 (dont worry most parts are under a minute).

part 2/5

part 3/5

part 4/5

part 5/5


watch the last part if you get bored seeing someone play a mission, it has the more important story elements.

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aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands4002 Posts
May 23 2007 18:43 GMT
#79
I already thought the flash of the girl you see in the cinematic trailer looked more like a night elf than Kerrigan. They must have regained their mortality and lived on until SC ages.
fallingdream
Profile Joined December 2004
Romania452 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-23 19:28:13
May 23 2007 19:25 GMT
#80
I don't know if someone already said it but I really didn't have time to read all 4 pages, but one of the blizz ppl at the press conference at blizz WWI said that there was an ideea to make the 4th race but they changed they're mind and instead of making a 4th race they focused all the energy spent on that ideea to make the current 3 races more distinct. From this I think there will never be a 4th race, maybe expansion, but I highly doubt it.

EDIT: Watch the roundtable vid, it's in there somewhere.
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