EPTSK Team League did not pay out prizes - Page 3
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Wadong
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Wadong
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Jealous
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On April 29 2018 14:51 Wadong wrote: And by winners of the tournament i ment the original winners of the "sk" tournament that was held. Maybe get a few cool casters, a group of teams /players together and maybe a gofundme community towards the players who didnt receive the money that they should have. If anyone has any ideas about it or want to participate please message me. Lets turn this shit show into something that the TL community can remember!! I think this is a great idea. I do also want to give some time after such an announcement for 619 to have a chance to step up and potentially clear things up and pay out the money before we collectively lynch him (not saying that this doesn't look good for him already, but now that it's been made public perhaps he will have a greater impetus to make moves). But if things do go south for good, we need to figure out exactly how much was owed to whom and step up as a community to correct the wrong, IMO. There was recently an incident in SC2 where there was some bullshit between BaseTradeTV and some players that was getting really ugly. In the end, a member of the community stepped up and paid the bill. I think that is a sterling example for how a community should operate in the face of adversity. Here is the post/thread in question if anyone is interested: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/532710-basetradetv-and-noregret-disagreement-escalates?page=11#216 I also want to say that as a former B-team player for SK, there were of course some things I took issue with over the course of my membership on the team, but 99% of my interactions with other members of the clan have been positive. Don't throw all of SK under the bus just because of the misdeeds of one person. As someone mentioned on the previous page, the majority of the members never cosigned on this kind of situation. There are some truly great people on the SK team, and if worst comes to worst, a simple change in management could keep a very populous and overall positive clan together and on the right track. But for now, I'm waiting. | ||
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docholiday_tv
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Cryoc
Germany912 Posts
On April 29 2018 15:46 docholiday_tv wrote: Just an fyi, through my time with SK I made contact with some of the matcherino folks 619 was in contact with. I'm working on getting in contact with them to see if they can hand over the pool to me so we can get it distributed correctly. That would be awesome, if it can be prevented that at least part of the money goes to 619. For me it is more about the principle and not the money itself. I think we just need to be more careful with unknown tournament organizers and use a trusted member who keeps the prize money in those cases to be safe. In general this was a rare circumstance for the foreign BW community which consists of mostly mannered people. There were probably at least 100 tournaments hosted which paid out without problems since the last big fiasco that was the Euro-LAN in 2012. | ||
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docholiday_tv
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Incomplete..ReV
Norway661 Posts
I think we should stick to the subject; money is missing. | ||
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GeckoXp
Germany2016 Posts
However, and this has to be said, the guys that replaced him to organise the line ups and everything else (Blacksnow?) were really nice, followed the rules and did well overall. We never really had problems with their players either, not during BWCL or any other tournament. Going after them would be way over the top. I really don't see how the team should be punished for the actions of their former leader. | ||
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Wadong
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i think it's unfair to claim that the team should be banned, and the team members be dispersed to other teams. Especially since Last and Blacksnow are working hard with organizing and making ends meet. Teams should be allowed to have a rough-patch with out us other teams hovering like vultures. I think we should stick to the subject; money is missing I agree with sticking to the main issue of money being missing. Though I dont see the point of [sk] being around if the main creator is a scam artist. Not saying they should nessisarily dispearse but maybe start a new team. A fresh start without the negative side effects of having an [sk] tag on would help any further distrust of the team itself. I understand it was the actions of one player and maybe [sk] can be reworked and continue to be one of the top teams in rm. | ||
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4424 Posts
Anyway i was in there yesterday and 619 is still the head moderator of the sk discord and i don't see him giving that up based on his previous actions.People need to just leave that clan and discord server. | ||
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium7002 Posts
On April 29 2018 12:57 QuaNTeL wrote: Yes of course me bonyth terror dewalt condoning these action. LOL im not really sure SK players are condoning anything, in fact Bonyth was a really good defender of 619(i suspect is cuz he was paid to join SK from red)i remember asking for the maps of the semifinals 2- 3 times without getting an answer and 619 decided to insult me for free even calling me fat and that he will buy a ticket to my third world country to beat me.cool story discord warrior,i even pmed bonyth how he could join a team like this and he totally ignored me,in fact not a single SK player said shit.and so far it seems dewalt is planing to continue on that team,and it is a bit strange to me cuz i asked dewalt few times if he was paid for sk but he said not and that will ask 619 about it but he never did.Terror already left SK,joined Nas cuz he was not happy with the outcome. so far the only person that acted the right way is terror,why will u stay in a team with that shady reputation?and that new guy leading SK who knows maybe is the same person as 619 so be careful with qikz starleague. | ||
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Cvitak46
Croatia52 Posts
On April 29 2018 20:55 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: 619 decided to insult me for free even calling me fat and that he will buy a ticket to my third world country to beat me. Wait.....Belgium a third world country? Dfaq? LOL! | ||
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TT1
Canada10045 Posts
shitty outcome but at the very least this is a good learning experience for all the parties involved, sadly i've had way worse experiences in SC2  | ||
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BlueStar
Bulgaria1171 Posts
Now I'm happy with my decision. .. just that TT | ||
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SuGo
United States681 Posts
On April 29 2018 20:55 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: im not really sure SK players are condoning anything, in fact Bonyth was a really good defender of 619(i suspect is cuz he was paid to join SK from red)i remember asking for the maps of the semifinals 2- 3 times without getting an answer and 619 decided to insult me for free even calling me fat and that he will buy a ticket to my third world country to beat me.cool story discord warrior,i even pmed bonyth how he could join a team like this and he totally ignored me,in fact not a single SK player said shit.and so far it seems dewalt is planing to continue on that team,and it is a bit strange to me cuz i asked dewalt few times if he was paid for sk but he said not and that will ask 619 about it but he never did.Terror already left SK,joined Nas cuz he was not happy with the outcome. so far the only person that acted the right way is terror,why will u stay in a team with that shady reputation?and that new guy leading SK who knows maybe is the same person as 619 so be careful with qikz starleague. Yes, this was my point eonzerg. The players obviously knew something was going on, but they have incentive if they're getting paid. Bonyth is actually a stand up guy, I know him very well and we're great "bw friends" ... but it is what it is. Do I blame the folks like Bonyth and Dewalt for letting it happen? Kinda, but not really because they're getting paid... if I recall correctly, Bonyth was getting paid something like 150$ a month (correct me if I am wrong). Would you say anything if you were getting free money like that? Anyways, I agree with the above about let's pool together and see if we can fix the wrongs. Who are the final payouts to and how much? IFU/SK/NAS? -- In my opinion, only IFU and NAS should get paid now and split the pool that way. ... that's the "punishment" for the SK guys who stayed around (and I'm not saying this because I'm in NaS, I actually told my team they can have my entire share, whatever it is) | ||
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Kingdom[NaS]
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BlaCkSnoW98
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Demurity
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