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Edit:
Good news. 619 came through and paid the prize money, so the issue is resolved.
Maybe it was just really bad timing on iFU's part to go public about it at this time and cause all this commotion for basically nothing (though given the same circumstances I would do the same).
But the speculations can stop now since 619 kept his word and delivered.
+ Show Spoiler [OP] +Some of you might remember, that Clan SK hosted this team league with a guaranteed overall prize pool of 500$ with 619 as the organizer which started in November last year and finished with the finals on March 11th. iFU won the finals vs SK. So far so good, but the prize money was not paid out up to this point. The facts are as follows. A couple of days after the finals concluded Eonzerg asked when the prize money is going to be paid, 619 reponded that it will be in about 2 weeks. eonzerg - 03/14/2018
yo
WHen are we getting prizes ?
will the semis and finals be cast ?
619 - 03/14/2018
I think they will, just bad time for the casters rn with personal stuff to handle that’s priority. I’ve spoken to them already. And within the next two weeks you will receive payment. Since nothing happened for 3 weeks, Eonzerg asked 619 again about the prize money, having the following conversation: eonzerg - 04/03/2018
hi
any news about prizes ?
619 - 04/03/2018
im actually talking with matcherino right now
waiting for them to fix some things on the page
theres missing 230
it looks like its going to be $732
$7320750
$732-750
is the total
eonzerg - 04/03/2018
what is the prize for first place ?
619 - 04/03/2018
i havent done the math on it yet, was waiting till the number was finalized
but if you take a look it was originally posted for $500, and then possibility of $1652 or something with the products we had availble for purchase.
so 2 items got purcahsed + $180
im going to use that same % once i get the total
eonzerg - 04/03/2018
okay
619 - 04/03/2018
sorry for delay
also going to be paying portions that where supposed to be given from 2 other people that didnt pay. so fuck me lmao i didnt expect to have to pay more but I made promise I wont back out for sure
eonzerg - 04/03/2018
that sux
proly cuz rm hype is dead tt
619 - 04/03/2018
its my fault as well, ill take blame
that fucking kid in the begining of the season really wore me down and honestly i wanted to do this shit to have fun not be stressed out every week with people complaining.
its rough to host this shit and run a team as well, its like double duty. we are a very big active clan so my time is split between both. Since then nothing. When Eonzerg tried to contact him again on Monday April 23rd, he was blocked by 619. So I wrote him a message on Discord on Tuesday regarding the SKTL prize money while he was online listening to Spotify, but I did not receive any answer. The Discord server for SKTL was also deleted in the meantime. Since we were also never asked for any information regarding where the prize should be transferred to, I think it is safe to say at this point that we got conned. Apparently 619 didn't even had the money in the first place even though it was "guaranteed". While this whole thing is very disappointing, judging by the general organization of this league and also the manners by the organizer, it is sadly not too surprising. So if 619 plans to host another tournament with prize money, be aware that you might get scammed.
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Maybe he waits to win STPL to pay out SKTL prizes.
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As I've mentioned in the original thread of the guy running Clan SK's league has a bad reputation of not delivering what he promises, yet people still continue to play his tournaments.
This is the 3rd time the community has fell for his bull shit. You're taking a gamble by spending your time to play in his league, sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.
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Yeah, really pathetic situation. Looks like SK is done also on the matter of managing their team, especial team A, based on they lack of proper activity in current team league, like STPL. They roster is based only on dewalt and last, and then bunch of players giving v.o for never showing up, which cannot be named a team (or maybe can be named 2v2 team :D). Sucks for iFU, although at least its not that much money giving it would need to be split amongst the players.
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damn that sucks hard for the players who won. if the allegations are true, please ban him like we banned savior.
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Yeah can't say I'm really surprised. Some guys over at the FBW discord warned the SK organizers about 619 and how he's scammed before, it was inevitable it was going to happen again. Shame.
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NaS was not paid 3rd place prize money either
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On April 28 2018 23:01 YPang wrote:
As I've mentioned in the original thread of the guy running Clan SK's league has a bad reputation of not delivering what he promises, yet people still continue to play his tournaments.
This is the 3rd time the community has fell for his bull shit. You're taking a gamble by spending your time to play in his league, sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.
So I guess Anderson Barrett aka Smi.Athene made for this tournament the new accounts [SK]619 and [SK]fire, but it was him all along.
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You shouldn't make promises that you can't keep.
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We should start checking the bank accounts of people who are organizers. If you already have 10k in your bank account or more, you're likely not going to scam the community because the prize pool means nothing for you. This guy is probably broke as they come and can't pay it out.
A world where we can trust each other and use an honor code doesn't apply to many, unfortunately.
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I hate to point this out but it was super obvious this was gonna happen. SK has:
- Had a known scammer organize SKTL orginally
- Consistently tried to rig their own league to win it by playing around with the rules to their advantage:
- Intentionally tried to stay out of the public eye
- Even after being told multiple times that they can add their events to TL, etc - they refused to advertise their tournaments or leagues and had astronomically low numbers even for a foreign event. Especially considering the "money" they were putting towards the scene. Everything was centralized on their discord server.
And 619 was such a raging moron that he needed someone to do "PR" for him because he couldn't go a week without making it obvious how he was an asshole and a person with obvious problems trying to play fair.
Edit: Also to point out, I believe the weekly $50 tours clan [SK] hosted weren't even paid by [SK], but rather a small niche group called "DPAL" which stands for Dangerous to Play Alone. They footed the bill and paid out the prizes as a sponsor and are great people, but I'm not even sure if SK has a history of ever paying out, it was people doing it for them.
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On April 29 2018 01:22 SCC-Faust wrote:I hate to point this out but it was super obvious this was gonna happen. SK has: - Had a known scammer organize SKTL orginally
- Consistently tried to rig their own league to win it by playing around with the rules to their advantage:
- Intentionally tried to stay out of the public eye
- Even after being told multiple times that they can add their events to TL, etc - they refused to advertise their tournaments or leagues and had astronomically low numbers even for a foreign event. Especially considering the "money" they were putting towards the scene. Everything was centralized on their discord server.
And 619 was such a raging moron that he needed someone to do "PR" for him because he couldn't go a week without making it obvious how he was an asshole and a person with obvious problems trying to play fair. Edit: Also to point out, I believe the weekly $50 tours clan [SK] hosted weren't even paid by [SK], but rather a small niche group called "DPAL" which stands for Dangerous to Play Alone. They footed the bill and paid out the prizes as a sponsor and are great people, but I'm not even sure if SK has a history of ever paying out, it was people doing it for them.
Jordeady agrees.
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Faust pretty much explained it as well as it could be explained. I hope no one is actually shocked at this. A number of people, myself included, repeatedly stated that based on SK and specifically 619's behavior that there would be no prize money ever paid out, and here we now are. Let's see what happens.
Just compare the difference between how this SKTL was run and how Qikz STPL tournament is being run. Qikz is meticulously organized, completely transparent in structure and prize money. When you listen to Qikz and look at the STPL you have absolutely no feeling that anything will ever go wrong. The winning team will likely report back and say how happy they are with how smoothly everything was run because Qikz is a master at that sort of thing. Coincidentally, it's looking like the team that stands a great chance to benefit from Qikz work and effort is... SK.
619, own it up please. Do what you said you were going to do. Be honest and come through for once.
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I don't know anything at all about any of the history of prior scams pointed out this thread. I will say that any time an organizer acts like 619 acts, it's a pretty huge red flag. Douchebags rarely pay.
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this doesn't surprise me at all... haha
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This isn't surprising to me at all, this is why I didn't even bother getting [WHITE] involved with this league lol, what do you expect from this 619 guy? Are you surprised really guys?
We need a players union to prevent things like this, and or a middle man / organization to hold the money to ensure this doesn't happen, other games / sports have done things like this.
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On April 29 2018 02:36 GGzerG wrote:
This isn't surprising to me at all, this is why I didn't even bother getting [WHITE] involved with this league lol, what do you expect from this 619 guy? Are you surprised really guys?
We need a players union to prevent things like this, and or a middle man / organization to hold the money to ensure this doesn't happen, other games / sports have done things like this.
That's what Matcherino is. I would speak to them about it.
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