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YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-28 21:59:18
April 28 2018 20:03 GMT
#21
Here's our boy
Fraud not only in BW, but in other parts of life as well.
sMi.Gladstone | BW: B high| SC2: gold T_T
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10682 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-28 21:59:35
April 28 2018 20:08 GMT
#22

I think this is going a little overboard lol, we don't really need to bring his personal life into StarCraft, although I guess it does have a correlation and is relative....

Hopefully he pays these people back.
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10682 Posts
April 28 2018 20:11 GMT
#23
On April 29 2018 03:37 Qikz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2018 02:36 GGzerG wrote:
This isn't surprising to me at all, this is why I didn't even bother getting [WHITE] involved with this league lol, what do you expect from this 619 guy? Are you surprised really guys?

We need a players union to prevent things like this, and or a middle man / organization to hold the money to ensure this doesn't happen, other games / sports have done things like this.


That's what Matcherino is. I would speak to them about it.

Well yea, but it seems a certain amount of the prize pool was allotted on 619's end, and if Matcherino isn't more transparent in the scene, then I would assume there would need to be a different type of players union created in the foreign BW scene, if there even is enough money to go around where it would be needed....
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
April 28 2018 20:19 GMT
#24
@ GGzerg, hey it's public, plus he's not "guilty" until found guilty in trial per image disclaimer.
sMi.Gladstone | BW: B high| SC2: gold T_T
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6638 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-28 21:59:44
April 28 2018 21:40 GMT
#25

For real? Holy shit, the guy has some history.

Hope this is all resolved for everyone...
The road to hell is paved with good intentions | aka Probert[PaiN] @ iccup / godlikeparagon @ twitch | my BW stream: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/jello_biafra
Fujikura
Profile Joined April 2007
United States337 Posts
April 28 2018 21:48 GMT
#26
Makes me glad we choked and didn't win anything, don't have to deal with being a bill collector for months lol
https://twitter.com/SouLFujikura
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25657 Posts
April 28 2018 22:00 GMT
#27
I removed the picture because innocent until proven guilty still applies and I doubt people will even read the fine print.
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
Kingdom[NaS]
Profile Joined April 2018
74 Posts
April 28 2018 22:21 GMT
#28
Could have told you this would happen from the beginning. I left SK cause 619 was a piece of shit who asked me to cheat in clanwars (use same players twice on smurf stuff like that) and basically treat other teams poorly. When i wouldn't do it he got enraged ... lol, so i left. He gives 0 shits about the broodwar scene.
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
April 28 2018 22:24 GMT
#29
On April 29 2018 07:21 Kingdom[NaS] wrote:
Could have told you this would happen from the beginning. I left SK cause 619 was a piece of shit who asked me to cheat in clanwars (use same players twice on smurf stuff like that) and basically treat other teams poorly. When i wouldn't do it he got enraged ... lol, so i left. He gives 0 shits about the broodwar scene.


I don't doubt this at all. 619 and Magician have been found cheating and smurfing in valar's tournament.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
April 28 2018 22:29 GMT
#30
Being impartial and treating all teams, especially you own team, the same is a basic ground rule as league admin. Really rubs me the wrong way when admins hand out favors to their team.
Broodwar for life!
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10682 Posts
April 28 2018 23:09 GMT
#31
I tried to tell people from the beginning that this would happen with SK lol, Kingdom I am guessing you are sLiMpoWeR or?
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
dM-White
Profile Joined February 2007
Chile340 Posts
April 28 2018 23:22 GMT
#32
Ya,i saw this coming too, they started to change a lot of rules to SK benefit, and we just leave the league, im glad that we didnt spend time in that league......
Op dM- @West || http://DisturbedMind.net || https://discord.gg/ePERqJp
Kingdom[NaS]
Profile Joined April 2018
74 Posts
April 28 2018 23:47 GMT
#33
On April 29 2018 08:09 GGzerG wrote:
I tried to tell people from the beginning that this would happen with SK lol, Kingdom I am guessing you are sLiMpoWeR or?


correct
uT)WhistleR
Profile Joined May 2006
Sweden95 Posts
April 29 2018 00:14 GMT
#34
good, iRk- need more members, letz go~
SuGo
Profile Joined March 2013
United States681 Posts
April 29 2018 01:13 GMT
#35
Need to ban [SK] effectively from all tours and honestly, any players associated on that tag, should also be punished. Because based on what Kingdom is saying, the players are in some way, condoning these actions through their leader.

In my opinion, [SK] should totally disband and all their players, I think Dewalt is the only good/active one left ... just leave and find any team you want
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4349 Posts
April 29 2018 02:29 GMT
#36
Yes, time for SK to disband and their players to join new teams.It will be good for the health of the scene.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4349 Posts
April 29 2018 02:38 GMT
#37
On April 29 2018 01:17 ProtossGG wrote:
We should start checking the bank accounts of people who are organizers. If you already have 10k in your bank account or more, you're likely not going to scam the community because the prize pool means nothing for you. This guy is probably broke as they come and can't pay it out.

A world where we can trust each other and use an honor code doesn't apply to many, unfortunately.

619 smurfed into some newbie tournament 8 months ago presumably to win the $50 winners prize (maybe it was even only $30, cant remember) and people think he was gonna pay out $750? Lol! This guy is broke as a joke.

People who are doing alright financially don't smurf newb tournies for $50 prize or try to scam ex clanmates out of chump change.Heck i earn OK money and theres no way i'd put up $500 of my own money for a BW tournament if i organised it, thats still big money for me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
SuGo
Profile Joined March 2013
United States681 Posts
April 29 2018 02:49 GMT
#38
On April 29 2018 11:38 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2018 01:17 ProtossGG wrote:
We should start checking the bank accounts of people who are organizers. If you already have 10k in your bank account or more, you're likely not going to scam the community because the prize pool means nothing for you. This guy is probably broke as they come and can't pay it out.

A world where we can trust each other and use an honor code doesn't apply to many, unfortunately.

619 smurfed into some newbie tournament 8 months ago presumably to win the $50 winners prize (maybe it was even only $30, cant remember) and people think he was gonna pay out $750? Lol! This guy is broke as a joke.

People who are doing alright financially don't smurf newb tournies for $50 prize or try to scam ex clanmates out of chump change.Heck i earn OK money and theres no way i'd put up $500 of my own money for a BW tournament if i organised it, thats still big money for me.


Worse thing is - you know this guy is probably reading these forums right now too. And he will just come back under some new aka or smurf a few months from now. But it'll be really easy to spot him when he does come back under a new alias.
Wadong
Profile Joined August 2017
16 Posts
April 29 2018 03:14 GMT
#39
Not a big shocker. A negative for the community but hopefully it can work out for a positive thing. [SK] shouldnt be allowed in tournaments, leaving room for more realistic teams. I wouldnt jump to conclusions about the payout but at this point it dosnt seem good. [eMg] welcomes any players who play under [sk] to the team. Skill dosnt matter just gm and a want to learn. Situations like this are horrible but lets try to get players focused on joining teams that keep the game active and fair. I hope there was some crazy mix up and the money is divided like it should.
QuaNTeL
Profile Joined July 2013
Indonesia47 Posts
April 29 2018 03:57 GMT
#40
On April 29 2018 10:13 ProtossGG wrote:
Need to ban [SK] effectively from all tours and honestly, any players associated on that tag, should also be punished. Because based on what Kingdom is saying, the players are in some way, condoning these actions through their leader.

In my opinion, [SK] should totally disband and all their players, I think Dewalt is the only good/active one left ... just leave and find any team you want

Yes of course me bonyth terror dewalt condoning these action. LOL
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