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ninazerg
United States7291 Posts
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kogeT
Poland2023 Posts
On January 25 2017 18:39 toriak wrote: usage of scouts and nukes in pro games from 0.1% to 2 -5 %. @koget ''scouts are close to being used'' - when is that ? Some utilization vs zerg's late game air, some utilization vs early terran pushes when p is going fast carrier. Obviously this is rare, but improving scout's dmg / vision range and hp/shield could make it useful in other parts of the game. | ||
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toriak
Slovakia477 Posts
but its not a pro game lol | ||
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6443 Posts
On January 25 2017 18:56 toriak wrote: @eonzerg but its not a pro game lol imo Scout is not a bad unit,i think everyone just ignored this unit.i mean i discovered last year there was an upgrade speed for scouts watching Lancerx stream... i did see Bisu beating fengzi with the same strat ,scout reaver,bisu using it like we zergs use muta. | ||
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Jae Zedong
407 Posts
It's actually semi viable even at pro level. You shouldn't do it every game, but it can be a nice way to shake things up once in a while. | ||
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hitthat
Poland2234 Posts
On January 25 2017 19:04 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: imo Scout is not a bad unit,i think everyone just ignored this unit.i mean i discovered last year there was an upgrade speed for scouts watching Lancerx stream... i did see Bisu beating fengzi with the same strat ,scout reaver,bisu using it like we zergs use muta. the problem is not that scout is a bad unit (althou, IMO, in curent state is cost-inefficient) but that is superficial unit. Almoust every task scout can do can be done better, cheaper and safer by other protoss units. Only thing I would change is buffing his ground attack a bit (either by range or few more attack power) but thats actually it. | ||
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Zera
Lithuania716 Posts
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Zera
Lithuania716 Posts
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sabas123
Netherlands3122 Posts
On January 25 2017 19:04 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: imo Scout is not a bad unit,i think everyone just ignored this unit.i mean i discovered last year there was an upgrade speed for scouts watching Lancerx stream... i did see Bisu beating fengzi with the same strat ,scout reaver,bisu using it like we zergs use muta. I remember Shuttle raping Sziky with some wierd pure Scout strat, it seemed really good. | ||
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES49489 Posts
Also buff and nerf bunker build time. | ||
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Jae Zedong
407 Posts
On January 25 2017 23:38 BLinD-RawR wrote: I think they should buff SCV HP to 80 and give them auto repair People who act like SCVs are OP with 60 hp don't know anything about the game. First, their range and acceleration sucks. Second, they don't auto heal like drones and probes. Third (and most important), they fucking mine slower than drones and probes! | ||
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Cele
Germany4016 Posts
On January 25 2017 22:29 sabas123 wrote: I remember Shuttle raping Sziky with some wierd pure Scout strat, it seemed really good. i can rape D- with uncloaked ghosts, doesn't prove anything. Even between very good foreigners like Sziky and ex pro's like shutle is still a vast difference. | ||
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sabas123
Netherlands3122 Posts
On January 26 2017 01:23 Cele wrote: i can rape D- with uncloaked ghosts, doesn't prove anything. Even between very good foreigners like Sziky and ex pro's like shutle is still a vast difference. Well it was Sziky at his peak form back then when he had an decent win rate vs ex pros, Does anybody know much have scout builds been explored previously? | ||
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sabas123
Netherlands3122 Posts
On January 26 2017 00:13 Jae Zedong wrote: People who act like SCVs are OP with 60 hp don't know anything about the game. First, their range and acceleration sucks. Second, they don't auto heal like drones and probes. Third (and most important), they fucking mine slower than drones and probes! Don't forget that it costs minerals to repair. But you also have to take into account how this would change other builds. For instance I would be interested to see if a strat that relies on bunker repair would still be viable vs toss if they lowered the SCV's health. | ||
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KameZerg
Sweden1745 Posts
User was warned for this post | ||
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Jae Zedong
407 Posts
On January 26 2017 01:50 ICanFlyLow wrote: It's not a balance patch you morons its a compatability patch No need to resort to name calling when you can't even spell compatibility right. | ||
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Antisocialmunky
United States5912 Posts
I don't care about balance or whatever because its mostly an issue of maps these days, but I'm sick of every thread turning into a balance whine thread. | ||
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Jae Zedong
407 Posts
I'm happy we're finally at a point where we realize that Blizzard aren't infallible. And there's a difference between acknowledning balance issues (that objectively exist) and suggesting they should be "fixed". Because "fixing" something always leads to unintended consequences and I personally wouldn't trust Blizzard with that. | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On January 25 2017 18:41 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: enjoy ,like seriously this game was great even if i,,,just watch the video haha so good, thanks for linking! Must've been annoying to see all those j j j j jk j j j comments lol. That combination from protoss is really difficult to deal with. What's zergs best option? Keep attacking and bait storms? | ||
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neobowman
Canada3324 Posts
On January 26 2017 02:18 Antisocialmunky wrote: Maybe we should just have the mods change this to the Balance Whine thread. I think SCII had a stickied one for WoL. I don't care about balance or whatever because its mostly an issue of maps these days, but I'm sick of every thread turning into a balance whine thread. There seems to be a social stigma in the Brood War community about discussing balance changes. I think it's come half from acceptance that Blizz won't be balance changing and half from balance change threads usually devolving into poorly thought out arguments. I don't think it should be something avoided. If people are rational and open to ideas then it can lead to a lot of good discussion. | ||
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