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xboi209
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1173 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-21 13:59:29
January 21 2017 13:59 GMT
#101
On January 21 2017 19:51 Euphorbus wrote:
LoL, Dota2, WC3 and SC2 all have 250-400 ms build-in latency. That would be considered unplayable in SC BW.
People don't notice or care about it anymore.

Only Starcraft and HoN have low latency, 50 to 100ms.

You should back up your statement with some sources. BW with lan lat has approximately 210ms latency, not 50ms - 100ms, according to the formula in the LatencyChanger article on Liquipedia, which isn't very far from 250ms, i.e. it's not "unplayable" as you suggested.
http://www.reddit.com/r/broodwar/
Euphorbus
Profile Joined December 2016
92 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-21 14:06:08
January 21 2017 14:04 GMT
#102




http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/tech-support/267518-things-about-latency

Broodwar4lyf
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
304 Posts
January 21 2017 15:40 GMT
#103
better modding/UMS mapmaking. shit connectivity issues after 20 years. i was doing better when i was using 56k
https://cinesnipe.com
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium7012 Posts
January 21 2017 16:05 GMT
#104
Since the balance topic is hot,im not someone that complain about it,except for the typical siege tank imba,reaver corsair ht dt archons,they are good units,but in a serious note in the state we re right now,if i tell you zerg is the hardest race to play will it be considered as game imbalanced? I think every race has the tools to win,but watching how easy is for protoss and terran players to comeback from sc2 and play right away in a very high lvl compared to our zerg comrades,again i dont even think it is a bad thing,it lakes me more proud to play zerg
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3703 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-21 16:30:00
January 21 2017 16:28 GMT
#105
Of course balance shouldn't be touched, I really don't understand why this keeps being discussed.
I personally don't have any problems with taking care of port forwarding and ddraw fixes myself, but I can see how it can be a huge turn off for new players having to spent so much extra time getting the game to work properly.
Fixing battle.net menus on modern OS however would be much appreciated. I'm not a fan of playing in window mode so having to deal with battle.net menus is kinda annoying atm.

I'd also be interesting to see how they take care of the resolution problem, as I think a lot of people don't want to play in 800x600 in 2017. Besides the FOV issue with widescreen, they'd have to produce higher res sprites or at least do some really good upscaling of the old ones to make higher resolutions not look like crap.
quirinus
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Croatia2489 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-21 18:00:07
January 21 2017 17:59 GMT
#106
- Increased turn rate to lower unit response times over Battle.net gameplay


This will slightly change the gameplay, maybe change the balance a bit.
All candles lit within him, and there was purity. | First auto-promoted BW LP editor.
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
January 21 2017 18:17 GMT
#107
On January 22 2017 02:59 quirinus wrote:
Show nested quote +
- Increased turn rate to lower unit response times over Battle.net gameplay


This will slightly change the gameplay, maybe change the balance a bit.

For sure, battle.net latency is a joke to micro.
DarkNetHunter
Profile Joined October 2012
1224 Posts
January 21 2017 18:23 GMT
#108
On January 22 2017 02:59 quirinus wrote:
Show nested quote +
- Increased turn rate to lower unit response times over Battle.net gameplay


This will slightly change the gameplay, maybe change the balance a bit.


This will just put it at lan latency levels that we're used to since MoC made the latencychanger plugin a decade ago.

Learn from the mistakes of others. You can't live long enough to make them all yourself.
Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
January 21 2017 18:30 GMT
#109
I would imagine this change will update the game to be played on Bnet2. I'll start playing it again if it's released in a lag free client in Bnet2. The only reason I ever stopped was due to problems with the ports on my router.
My. Copy. Is. Here.
ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
January 21 2017 18:50 GMT
#110
quenn spawn broodling 100 mana plz
Bisu,Best,Stork,Jangbi and Flash, Fantasy, Leta, Light and Jaedong, Hydra, Zero, Soulkey assemble in ACE now!
[[Starlight]]
Profile Joined December 2013
United States1578 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-21 19:25:51
January 21 2017 19:25 GMT
#111
On January 22 2017 03:50 ne4aJIb wrote:
quenn spawn broodling 100 mana plz


User was warned for being hilarious
Kare
Profile Joined March 2009
Norway786 Posts
January 21 2017 19:54 GMT
#112
meme overload : 9000+
In life you can obtain all sorts of material wealth, but the real treasure is the epic feelings you get while doing something you love.
LetaBot
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
Netherlands557 Posts
January 21 2017 22:20 GMT
#113
Is ICCUP/Fish going to switch to the latest patch? Considering that a lot of tools were made for 1.16.1 which will probably not work with this new patch.
If you cannot win with 100 apm, win with 100 cpm.
Bareleon
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
371 Posts
January 21 2017 22:37 GMT
#114
On January 21 2017 19:46 ARREST_HILLARY_NOW wrote:
they should do a graphical overhaul too


No.

BW has the best graphics ever.
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4439 Posts
January 21 2017 23:39 GMT
#115
Why buff scout when protoss already destroys zerg on air maps?

One change i would like to see is small reduction in irridate damage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
Shana
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Indonesia1814 Posts
January 22 2017 09:46 GMT
#116
Don't touch balance and/or graphics. Nothing. Just make it possible to run on latest OS.
Believing in what lies ahead. | That which we call a rose, by any other name would smell as sweet.
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
January 22 2017 09:55 GMT
#117
On January 22 2017 08:39 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
One change i would like to see is small reduction in irridate damage.


Why

An irradiated unit should die, unless it's an ultralisk.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4228 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-22 10:18:09
January 22 2017 10:16 GMT
#118
On January 21 2017 22:44 Euphorbus wrote:
Only if you play with Blizzard's flavour of Starcraft.

SC2 has the same build-in delay Starcraft originally had. That was when I called in with my 28.8 baud modem and my parents were mad people couldn't call us.

I don't want Blizzard to bring what they did to SC2 to Starcraft. We already solved all their problems long before they announced SC2.

I remember we could bake an egg on our CPU's because Starcraft would always use 100% of our 2 GHz processor, until the community fixed it.
Only years later, Blizzard patched it in their official flavor.

Less Blizzard is what we need.

??? It's not about the client "delay", we're talking about the battle.net delay, which is one of the major reasons why battle.net sucks balls compared to the 3rd party platforms.

What patch are you referring to? I don't recall any fan patches that fixed CPU problems?
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
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Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-22 10:40:46
January 22 2017 10:34 GMT
#119
On January 22 2017 08:39 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Why buff scout when protoss already destroys zerg on air maps?

One change i would like to see is small reduction in irridate damage.


air maps? Island maps aren't played since 2006 or what. i fail to see how that would be relevant at all.
Broodwar for life!
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
January 22 2017 10:40 GMT
#120
On January 22 2017 07:20 LetaBot wrote:
Is ICCUP/Fish going to switch to the latest patch? Considering that a lot of tools were made for 1.16.1 which will probably not work with this new patch.


we will have to see the patch before we can determine if we do the switch or not. I dunno about fish.
Broodwar for life!
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