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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36388 Posts
April 10 2007 09:54 GMT
#41
<3 tadzio
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LxRogue
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1415 Posts
April 10 2007 10:15 GMT
#42
People take this WAY too seriously. The guy just makes a bad joke and apoligizes, he doesn't hate black people or anything.
Vin{MBL}
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
5185 Posts
April 10 2007 10:16 GMT
#43
nappy headed hoes roflmao.
itemlock
Profile Joined January 2007
United States256 Posts
April 10 2007 10:51 GMT
#44
Another example of the black community overreacting and playing the race card. Much worse things have been said in this world that go unpunished and for the most part, unnoticed... Now this guy says "nappy-headed hoes" (and NO, "nappy" isn't racial despite what that idiot, Al Sharpton says...) and people get all riled up. It's funny because I was never racist until I started to see Al Sharpton and his buddy Jesse Jackson on the news every other night crying "racism" over stupid things. If he said something along the lines of:

"Look at those niggers run."

Then, I would understand somewhat, but even then. There's a simple solution if there's a radio personality out there that you don't like... It's called: Listen To Something Else. Who the hell said that people have a right not to ever be offended? When did that become a rule? If you don't like to hear something, just turn to another station... It's easy, no? Al Sharpton is an ass and Jesse Jackson is no better. What frightens me more is that they're both pastors on top of that. What ever happened to this little part of Christian teaching called, "forgiveness"? The guy is obviously sorry, why can't they turn the other cheek instead of playing the role of the condescending judge (as if they even had that authority) and harassing him about it? What is the problem? Is it really the language used? Or the person using it?

God knows I've heard black people saying "nigger" left and right more times than I could count. I don't see all of you black people getting all sensitive about that. Suddenly a white person says "nappy-headed hoe", a phrase with absolutely no racial connotation in itself and you're all up and arms about it. Black people should really get better and more educated people to represent them... Al Sharpton and crew are only turning more and more people against you everyday and making you look like a bunch of uneducated fools...

Just my two cents on the matter...
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36388 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-04-10 11:04:47
April 10 2007 11:04 GMT
#45
i know i didnt want to post or read this thread anymore but that last post just needed some sort of reaction. just wow haha.

edit: i was going to respond but whatever, ok really stopping now.
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Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7299 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-04-10 12:39:46
April 10 2007 12:36 GMT
#46
On April 10 2007 18:41 Tadzio00 wrote:


Why you guys (Ares and Sadist) are expending such effort to defend a man that has readily admitted guilt and accepted punishment is beyond me.

Ares, there's nothing wrong with calling a black person black... straw men and all that jazz.

And Sadist, playing games with semantics to trick people into agreeing with you is a really low rhetorical duplicity. If you think it's necessary to invent new meanings for all the words you use, knock yourself out, but don't expect people to understand what you're saying.



Im not defending him, I dont even like Imus, hes not funny. I just am sick of hearing about this story all over when its not a big deal, and Im sick of Al Sharpton ruining any credibility hed ever have in a real racism case by going after stupid shit like this. Im not using semantics, I told you that racial jokes TO ME are not RACIST, and RACISM TO ME has to do with prejudice more than anything else. Racial jokes are harmless unless they are put in the hands of gullable morons who will take them as absolute truths and not for what they are....

jokes


Im sorry but the idea of racism is just sickening nowadays, I mean in the 80's you had a movie called "The Toy" with richard prior being bought by a rich white child in a toy store. Its a funny movie, do you think that shit would fly nowadays? No, people would be marching in the streets over a fucking movie. Everyone is just hyper sensitive nowadays and its terrible. You have uproars from all these religious groups over the slightest fun being poked at their faith. People take themselves WAY too seriously nowadays. Youd think they forgot they shit too



edit: and Do you really think Imus is apologizing and admitting guilt because hes sorry? Fuck no, hes trying to keep his job. Give me a break, of course hes going to say he fucked up
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Tensai176
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Canada2061 Posts
April 10 2007 13:09 GMT
#47
Its true Imus had to apologize and i really don't think hes a racist. He could have done said a racial comment of a sort, but that doesn't make him racist. I have black friends, white friends, asian/middle-eastern friends, and if i hear a funny racial joke, i would share it with all of them. it will all come in good laughs, sure its a racial joke, but taht doesn't condone me being a racist and my friends do they same. Im asian, im sure i heard them all. And stand-up comedians are much much worse. The over-reaction of some, just some, people is just ridiculous. (I live in Canada)
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useLess
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4781 Posts
April 10 2007 13:32 GMT
#48
FIRE! Team Liquid is on fire!! Log the fuck out!
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TheosEx
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States894 Posts
April 10 2007 13:41 GMT
#49
I stayed up all night and saw this thing on the news at 5am. I knew it would be a TL.net topic. Anyways, this thing is retarded. Leave the man alone. Fired? For what? Doing his job? He made a joke. You don't like it? Stop listening. Period.

He already apologized (even though, IMO, he shouldn't even have too). The big point that Al Sharpton and the likes are saying that it was on public broadcast. So... when certain rap songs with worse words are broadcasted, noone cares? Because they're black too? Black people who bring too much attention to this kind of stuff are the ones who are destroying everything the other proper black people worked for. Even Bill Cosby has talked about how black people need to get over being slaves, get off their asses, and do something instead of complaining about how unfair the world is. Get over it. Everyone was a slave once, but it's mostly blacks who complain about it. If you want to be treated equally, ignore all the racial comments and prove yourself to be equal.

Think about it, "gook," "cracker," or "spic" aren't as big no-no's as "nigger" but they could be. Why? Not as much attention.
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
April 10 2007 13:46 GMT
#50
I think restraints of free speech are more pertinent than the stupid fuckin semantics of what is or isn't a racist joke.

But maybe it's just me.
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stuthedog
Profile Joined November 2006
Burundi262 Posts
April 10 2007 13:55 GMT
#51
don imus is a shock jock going for a laugh like he always does on his show. in that respect, his comments were of bad taste but "appropriate" for the medium. no, he's not a full blown comedian or rapper but he is in a media platform that strives to push the edge. i have heard much worse commentary/banter from radio show hosts than that. it does not make it acceptable but it's neither a firable offense.

as a whole, i think society has gotten more impolite. specifically, black hip hop culture has eroded our views of women and blacks themselves. don imus was, unfortunately, using a remark that has often been said and sung in black culture and i believe this is one reason why he at first thought he had done nothing wrong. but when he realized that the women were upstanding AND the advertisers pulling their bucks out, then he was contrite realizing that he had gone too far. i do believe he is sorry and i do not believe that saying a racist remark/joke in that context makes him into a racist.

i am burundian myself and if he had said that about my race i would be very angry and even may verge on calling him to resign. but as an outsider with a cooler and more objective head, i believe that as a shock jock he was within his bad taste to make that comment. let's not ignore all the good that the man has done and the lives of young blacks that he's directly and personally helped because of one throwaway comment. the remark is not as caustic as "nigger," not by a long shot. don imus deserves some time off, careful scrutiny of his racial remarks in the future but the bigger issue is we as a society, now given a wake up call, whether we will stand for ANYONE saying it in more decent platforms.
DarkYoDA
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States1347 Posts
April 10 2007 14:14 GMT
#52
Didn't spend my time to watch the videos what some niggerguy used the word nigger again?
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RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13295 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-04-10 14:22:19
April 10 2007 14:21 GMT
#53
Bleh take the joke for what it is.

Is Dave Chapelle a racist?

Maybe he stepped over the line, but people need to stop being so precious.
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BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
April 10 2007 14:41 GMT
#54
It's a phenomenal feat that these women acheived and that will be completely overlooked because of Don's comment. Instead of being celebrated for being national finalists, their school and school newspaper is probably flooded by whispers of this controversy. He completely ruined these girls' success with his racist, insensitive remarks. Yet a lot of you guys don't see anything wrong with that. Super.

Lol @ Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. Both of them have a lot more skeletons in their closet than Imus.
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
April 10 2007 14:54 GMT
#55
As the only posting TL.net member actually attending Rutgers, I feel obliged to say.....

I really don't care.

=D
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TheosEx
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States894 Posts
April 10 2007 15:04 GMT
#56
On April 10 2007 23:41 BlackJack wrote:
It's a phenomenal feat that these women acheived and that will be completely overlooked because of Don's comment. Instead of being celebrated for being national finalists, their school and school newspaper is probably flooded by whispers of this controversy. He completely ruined these girls' success with his racist, insensitive remarks. Yet a lot of you guys don't see anything wrong with that. Super.

Lol @ Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. Both of them have a lot more skeletons in their closet than Imus.


He didn't ruin anything. They are just sore losers and want all the attention they can get out of it.

I am not a fan of women's basketball anyways. It's a fact that not many college players get scouted to play for the NBA. Even less women get scouted for the WNBA. I know two ex-Rutgers women's basketball players. One is an assistant manager at Circuit City and another is a Secretary. Phenomenal feat how? To play basketball, then go nowhere... like where most of these girls will probably go. The way I see it, playing basketball for a college team is like a job. You get play to get your education paid off. Period.
ItchReliever
Profile Joined April 2004
2489 Posts
April 10 2007 16:17 GMT
#57
yea it's no biggie, just a national championship
ItchReliever
Profile Joined April 2004
2489 Posts
April 10 2007 16:19 GMT
#58
lol jesus
WhatisProtoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Korea (South)2325 Posts
April 10 2007 16:29 GMT
#59
On April 10 2007 17:42 Sadist wrote:
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On April 10 2007 17:39 Hot_Bid wrote:
what? are people seriously saying that people who are offended by this are "taking his comments too seriously?" are you fucking joking? it's clearly and obviously racist and he should be fired. cal ripken was scheduled to be on imus' show but canceled his appearance, i would too.

amazing.


you act like he called them niggers or something.

OBVIOUSLY THEY WERE RACIAL JOKES BUT THEY WERENT RACIST

he makes fun of EVERYBODY hes SUPPOSED To make jokes, he made a joke (It was weak as fuck anyway) big deal.

People need to lighten up, take a fucking joke.

Yeah, true.

And Al Sharpton shouldn't even be interviewing this guy. In that talk, Al Sharpton showed that he was clearly not on the same intellectual level as this guy and was merely repeating himself over and over again.

And to the people who haven't even experienced racial discrimination before, chill out. There are some things that hit the spot, there are some things that don't.
WhatisProtoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Korea (South)2325 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-04-10 16:38:24
April 10 2007 16:35 GMT
#60
On April 10 2007 18:00 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2007 17:51 Sadist wrote:
On April 10 2007 17:47 Hot_Bid wrote:
On April 10 2007 17:42 Sadist wrote:
On April 10 2007 17:39 Hot_Bid wrote:
what? are people seriously saying that people who are offended by this are "taking his comments too seriously?" are you fucking joking? it's clearly and obviously racist and he should be fired. cal ripken was scheduled to be on imus' show but canceled his appearance, i would too.

amazing.


you act like he called them niggers or something.

OBVIOUSLY THEY WERE RACIAL JOKES BUT THEY WERENT RACIST

he makes fun of EVERYBODY hes SUPPOSED To make jokes, he made a joke (It was weak as fuck anyway) big deal.

People need to lighten up, take a fucking joke.

him calling them nappy headed hoes isn't a racist joke? what the fuck?

so if he called a group of asians slanty eyed rice pickers, or a group of hispanics greasy bean picking border jumpers, those aren't racist because he didn't say "gook" or "chink" or "spic"?

are you fucking kidding?


racial jokes are not racist, they are simply racial jokes.

Denying someone service because they are black or calling someone a nigger is racist, not what imas did, please, the way you are acting is typical of the problem of big ass overreaction in todays culture (especially in america) . Watch any comedian and youll hear shit way worse than what Imas said.

well i strongly disagree with you and your outlook on this issue.

i agree that there is a general trend towards overreaction and overly-PC stuff, but this a very clear cut case and there's definitely no ambiguity there.

and saying racial jokes "aren't racist, they are just jokes!" is probably the most ignorant statement i've ever heard.

i knew i shouldn't have bothered with this thread and i won't post any further. whatever.

This truly is clearcut. He has already admitted that he has made a racial statement. He already accepts his punishment.

However, he doesn't accept the fact that people are calling him a racist. Making a racist joke doesn't make you a racist. Not bathing one day and apologizing for not doing so doesn't make you a dirty person. Maybe momentarily, but it's not part of your personality. Anybody can make those comments, racist or not.

Blacks and Asians are the most racist people I've ever seen. Yet, somehow, it's something that isn't focused on. Black people call each other "nigger" all the time. Maybe it's because of the massive amount of discrimination that Blacks and Asians have received in the United States in the past, it is more "acceptable" that they would make racial slurs, rather than white people.

I have heard "hoes" and "bitches" in movies all the time. I don't see such an outrage such as this.

Stop bashing Sadist for trying to defend this guy. It's only because he doesn't really deserve all this attention. He isn't a racist.

Bottom Line: NOBODY REALLY CARES. It happened once. He apologized. We've been listening to him for the past 30 years.
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