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JimmiC
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Djagulingu
Germany3605 Posts
On July 28 2016 16:28 Xeris wrote: You said that there are DOZENS of PG's in the NBA who have ~80% of Rubio's playmaking ability and can shoot. I'm asking you to name even 10 PG's who fit that criteria... let alone 'dozens.' Kyrie, Steph, CP3, John Wall, Lowry, Tony Parker, Kemba, Damian, Westbrook.. that's 9 who are objectively better than Rubio in every way. You can't tell me that there are more than a dozen ADDITIONAL PG's who are good shooters + 80% of Rubio's playmaking. That's insane. Jeremy Lin, Brandon Knight, Isaiah Thomas, Goran Dragic, Eric Bledsoe, Dwayne Wade (when he plays point), Jeff Teague, Reggie Jackson have at least 80% of Rubio's playmaking and they can shoot as well. D'Angelo Russell, Elfrid Payton and Emmanuel Mudiay, while not being better than Rubio today, they will be significantly better than Rubio starting from 2017-2018 season. Giannis Antetokounmpo is objectively better than Rubio in every aspect of this game other than shooting, and while Greek Freak can't shoot, he can still score. Even as a PG, Antetokounmpo is better than Rubio. There are a dozen additional guys for you. | ||
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JimmiC
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9175 Posts
On July 29 2016 02:59 Djagulingu wrote: D'Angelo Russell, Elfrid Payton and Emmanuel Mudiay, while not being better than Rubio today, they will be significantly better than Rubio starting from 2017-2018 season. Stop being ridiculous. Maybe 1 of these will pan out but all 3 being significantly better than Rubio in less than 2 years is absurd hyperbole. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On July 29 2016 01:45 cLutZ wrote: Primary ball handler != Point Guard in this context. It simply means small guy who has trouble guarding more than 1 or 2 positions . The theory if Wiggins is that he has the potential to guard 4 positions and on offense post up smalls/take bigs off the dribble. If he doesn't develop a shot, that makes shooting from your 2 guards all the more important. Rubio can guard PGs and SGs pretty well. Wiggins isn't a good defender yet, and while it looks like he will be lets not get caught up in potential. He isn't a better defender than Rubio. So again - why wouldn't the Wolves just trade Wiggins if this is your line of thinking? For all the years I've posted in these NBA threads you always seem to have a very weird way of viewing the value of PGs (especially their defense). There are some that have no trouble guarding both guard spots and there are rare gems like Chris Paul and Beverly that won't get murdered by SFs. On July 29 2016 10:59 Scarecrow wrote: Stop being ridiculous. Maybe 1 of these will pan out but all 3 being significantly better than Rubio in less than 2 years is absurd hyperbole. lol that guy is damn hilarious | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
On July 29 2016 02:59 Djagulingu wrote: Jeremy Lin, Brandon Knight, Isaiah Thomas, Goran Dragic, Eric Bledsoe, Dwayne Wade (when he plays point), Jeff Teague, Reggie Jackson have at least 80% of Rubio's playmaking and they can shoot as well. D'Angelo Russell, Elfrid Payton and Emmanuel Mudiay, while not being better than Rubio today, they will be significantly better than Rubio starting from 2017-2018 season. Giannis Antetokounmpo is objectively better than Rubio in every aspect of this game other than shooting, and while Greek Freak can't shoot, he can still score. Even as a PG, Antetokounmpo is better than Rubio. There are a dozen additional guys for you. lol.... those guys aren't 80% of Rubio's playmaking, nor can all of them shoot significantly better than Rubio. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
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JimmiC
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
On August 05 2016 05:52 cLutZ wrote: Your opinion of Rubio is really quite high. I watched quite a bit of Twolves last year and I would not describe him as anything more than "above average" at all those skills. i guess i can't change your opinion ;dd | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
Basically, does sheer athleticism/skill overwhelm execution and chemistry? Team USA is running a pretty bland offense and the defense looks simplistic too. Do they beat an NBA team, which can manufacture open shots and cover these PnRs pretty well? Obviously Team USA depth runs over their bench, but can the Warriors' 1st unit stay ahead? Plus the Warriors will have much more effective/tactical coaching. | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
Also depends if they're playing with FIBA's 3pt line or the NBA one  . I still say Team USA wins, they really seem good in defense. | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
I think we'd be better with Boogie and DJ on the bench. They're getting worked by Australia's much smarter bigs. Just play something like Draymond/PG/Klay/Anthony/Kyrie. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada18041 Posts
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JimmiC
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
On August 11 2016 08:04 Jibba wrote: So about the importance of teamwork... I think we'd be better with Boogie and DJ on the bench. They're getting worked by Australia's much smarter bigs. Just play something like Draymond/PG/Klay/Anthony/Kyrie. I think Boogie's game translates to the international game better than DJ's. He's having issues adjusting to the officials, however. There doesn't seem to be many centers here that can score that well. Draymond and maybe even Carmelo can play center for team USA. The rest of the team is tall and athletic enough to compete for rebounds. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada18041 Posts
On August 12 2016 22:34 JimmiC wrote: With a paltry net worth of 500 million and earning 50+ million per in endorsements and 20 some mill in salary. It's nice that with this contract he can finally feed his family... let me clarify my vague, open ended, 1-liner comment that you probably read the wrong way. he is finally going to be the highest paid player in the NBA with a deal longer than most expected. its great to have someone go through my posts with a fine tooth comb though. i need an audience. On August 13 2016 00:05 andrewlt wrote: Glad that they're not breaking up Richard Jefferson's supporting cast. good point, as you know i projected RJ to play 42 minutes a game this year and most experts agree with me. | ||
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JimmiC
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada18041 Posts
On August 13 2016 01:08 JimmiC wrote: It does not take a fine tooth comb your posts radiate stupidity. nah, i know more about the Raptors than most posters in this thread. i talk about the raptors more than any other team. i'm here to discuss the NBA though. if you want to engage in a personal discussion you should PM me and not put it in here. | ||
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JimmiC
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