EPTWoD and Legion mission farming didn't become an issue until you could earn the resources from the table itself to become self sustaining.
Its not worth it if you have to constantly go out and do WQ's on your horde of alts.
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BfA Community Links: GP : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/KKMpKPSlgd?region=EU&faction=Horde TLEUH : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/v9x5bAF3jD?region=EU&faction=Horde TLEUA : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/ALwgJnC5Wo?region=EU&faction=Alliance TLNAH : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/vPrmjJxiVnJ?region=US&faction=Horde TLNAA : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/YeZj7P0SXLn?region=US&faction=Alliance Bnet: Bnet - https://blizzard.com/invite/amvLM0EubJv On November 03 2016 06:57 GTR wrote: I've created a Google Form/Spreadsheet for people to help add eachother. Hopefully this will makes things easier for us to find people for Mythic+ runs and what not as opposed to sifting through 150+ pages of discussion. Form Spreadsheet If a moderator could add this as a moderator note at the top it'd be appreciated. | ||
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Gorsameth
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WoD and Legion mission farming didn't become an issue until you could earn the resources from the table itself to become self sustaining. Its not worth it if you have to constantly go out and do WQ's on your horde of alts. | ||
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Tictock
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On October 26 2018 06:28 Cyro wrote: + Show Spoiler + The 8.1 content goes against that, saying that it was some unknown force that "picked" sylvanas and explicitly ruling out the involvement of a ton of people including the loa That doesn't necessarily disregard the theory that I am proposing though... It has seemed clear to me for a bit now that Blizz is working on creating a new "big bad" that will be moving in. I mean they basically had to since Nozoth is the last Old God we haven't seen and now that the Legion is broken we have sorta delt with the original players. | ||
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Tictock
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On October 26 2018 06:57 Cyro wrote: Better that the gold comes from emissaries and WQ's than from mission table Shifting gold onto mission table results in afk / alt army farming. More gold coming from the table means that less gold has to come from actually playing the game in order for the economy to be balanced. I am really hoping that this is the last expansion with a mission table. I don't mind the idea, but they need to overhaul the system. I would probably like it more if it worked more like it did in Legion where you could train specific troops. This RNG troop system means I just spam w/e missions I can counter and don't really give a shit. If there was actually some form of strategy or something just mildly engaging it would be fine, but currently it feels like a broken system that is limping on for no good reason. | ||
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Cyro
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The Legion implementation was okay for the first half of the expansion if you ignored all of the timegatey bullshit where you had to wake up at e.g. 2am and then 6am and then 10am to send missions in the first few weeks in order to unlock stuff like the third relic slot which was a one click 10% DPS increase. They added most of the problematic stuff later - missions that expired really fast, gave a ton of gold or resources etc; more powerful follower items so that you could spam duration reduction 200% success on everything. | ||
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Rebs
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On October 27 2018 02:09 NonY wrote: I did a mythic+ with the current best group's comp (DK tank, monk healer, rogue, dh, hunter) and omg there's something magical about it. Great comp. Comp matters for so much in mythic+ I think the range in that comp is flexible but the other 4 are no brainer hands down the best imo. | ||
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Tictock
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I've had to scale back how much I play my MW due to lack of time, but was finding him generally pretty good for m+ even in ~350 gear | ||
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Warri
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Mohdoo
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On October 27 2018 02:09 NonY wrote: I did a mythic+ with the current best group's comp (DK tank, monk healer, rogue, dh, hunter) and omg there's something magical about it. Great comp. Comp matters for so much in mythic+ Hunter over mage? My impression is that mage lets tanks kite better, but maybe that's not necessary with a DK tank, lol. | ||
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NonY
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On October 27 2018 05:24 Mohdoo wrote: Hunter over mage? My impression is that mage lets tanks kite better, but maybe that's not necessary with a DK tank, lol. I agree with rebs that the ranged slot is flexible. I think DK-Monk-DH-Rogue is a strong base for any affix/dungeon, and there are a few ranged you can take to complete the group, probably depending on the affixes and dungeon. Just scrolling through the top runs on raider.io you can see the kind of comps that do well. Certainly there are other combos. If you pug regularly or if your static group doesn't fit one of those molds and is missing something important, then runs are just harder. I've never really attempted to make great comps, but rather just reasonable comps with players with good scores. But now that I tried a good comp, and if I keep doing mythic+ it's probably always gonna be me healing on my monk and my friend tanking on his DK, then we'll probably continue to make smart choices on the 3 DPS classes we pug. But to do that we really ought to switch to horde because alliance has slim pickings. | ||
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Also if you want to pug Mythic Uldir there’s always groups up on Illidan/Tich/Area52/etc. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22145 Posts
On October 27 2018 05:24 Mohdoo wrote: BDK can spec into 90% slow (decaying) on D&D, so they are very strong to kite on their own already.Hunter over mage? My impression is that mage lets tanks kite better, but maybe that's not necessary with a DK tank, lol. | ||
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Alventenie
United States2147 Posts
On October 27 2018 05:54 Gorsameth wrote: BDK can spec into 90% slow (decaying) on D&D, so they are very strong to kite on their own already. Also have RoP from the MW, and rogue can have slow as well in 2/3 of their specs. Kiting usually isn't much of an issue in that base group. Hunters also bring an enrage dispel (so can boomies). The versatile classes definitely are performing very well atm. | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On October 27 2018 05:37 NonY wrote: I agree with rebs that the ranged slot is flexible. I think DK-Monk-DH-Rogue is a strong base for any affix/dungeon, and there are a few ranged you can take to complete the group, probably depending on the affixes and dungeon. Just scrolling through the top runs on raider.io you can see the kind of comps that do well. Certainly there are other combos. If you pug regularly or if your static group doesn't fit one of those molds and is missing something important, then runs are just harder. I've never really attempted to make great comps, but rather just reasonable comps with players with good scores. But now that I tried a good comp, and if I keep doing mythic+ it's probably always gonna be me healing on my monk and my friend tanking on his DK, then we'll probably continue to make smart choices on the 3 DPS classes we pug. But to do that we really ought to switch to horde because alliance has slim pickings. Yeah man, if I wasnt tethered by RL friends on Alliance I would never have switched, my old raid guilds 8/8 since last week so they have nothing to do but push keys and I'd be swimming in IO score with barely any effort if I was still playing casually with them. Malganis horde is pretty stacked anway. Like my 1 decent run a week says "please dont go" but by any measure that would be the right thing to do if you want a more efficient experience. | ||
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NonY
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I got baited by friends into changing to alliance too. These are guys that I played with for world firsts in other games, and when we cobbled together a WoW guild for WoD, we were top 50 world. And they are playing SO casual now, like they don't even get a 10 done each week. They took forever to clear heroic uldir. Totally baited. And we all played horde together earlier, so I don't even know why they decided to go alliance for BfA. A few other friends have quit already -- I don't blame them. I'm thinking about quitting too but in the meantime I'm just playing a lot less. Anyway, what a waste transferring to alliance | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15742 Posts
On October 27 2018 05:54 Gorsameth wrote: BDK can spec into 90% slow (decaying) on D&D, so they are very strong to kite on their own already. lmao were blood DKs shitty, like really shitty, at some point? Blood DKs are senselessly amazing in every single way and I don't understand why Blizzard would make them so good. I know Blizzard likes to rotate OP'ness to an extent (while making shamans worthless no matter what), but blood DKs are just plain amazing. I feel like my DH is flat out inferior. On the topic of my inferiority, you guys have drastically reduced it. I'm like 100x better at tanking now and I really appreciate all of your guy's help! I only wish I got good before I hit 370 and lost my motivation to play... | ||
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Cyro
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either an entire faction (alternatively, both of them) is taking part in a giant shared hallucination (hello nzoth) or it doesn't make any sense + Show Spoiler + Derek was also incinerated by a dragon and had his bones sink in an ocean during the second war, what's left for Sylvanas to res? | ||
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