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On November 03 2016 06:57 GTR wrote:
I've created a Google Form/Spreadsheet for people to help add eachother.

Hopefully this will makes things easier for us to find people for Mythic+ runs and what not as opposed to sifting through 150+ pages of discussion.

Form
Spreadsheet

If a moderator could add this as a moderator note at the top it'd be appreciated.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21650 Posts
October 25 2018 22:06 GMT
#9881
Gold from mission table is fine so long as you cannot gain resources from the table.

WoD and Legion mission farming didn't become an issue until you could earn the resources from the table itself to become self sustaining.
Its not worth it if you have to constantly go out and do WQ's on your horde of alts.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
October 25 2018 23:47 GMT
#9882
On October 26 2018 06:28 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
Blizzard has hotfixed Emissary Rewards in all regions to provide 2000 gold (up from 700) and 1600 AP (up from 1000).


Show nested quote +
It would add up with how the “Loa” picked her to be warchief (I think we are supposed to have assumed Bonswandi is the Loa in question, but he has dialog stating he has a boss.)


+ Show Spoiler +
The 8.1 content goes against that, saying that it was some unknown force that "picked" sylvanas and explicitly ruling out the involvement of a ton of people including the loa


That doesn't necessarily disregard the theory that I am proposing though...

It has seemed clear to me for a bit now that Blizz is working on creating a new "big bad" that will be moving in. I mean they basically had to since Nozoth is the last Old God we haven't seen and now that the Legion is broken we have sorta delt with the original players.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
October 25 2018 23:52 GMT
#9883
On October 26 2018 06:57 Cyro wrote:
Better that the gold comes from emissaries and WQ's than from mission table

Shifting gold onto mission table results in afk / alt army farming. More gold coming from the table means that less gold has to come from actually playing the game in order for the economy to be balanced.


I am really hoping that this is the last expansion with a mission table.

I don't mind the idea, but they need to overhaul the system. I would probably like it more if it worked more like it did in Legion where you could train specific troops. This RNG troop system means I just spam w/e missions I can counter and don't really give a shit. If there was actually some form of strategy or something just mildly engaging it would be fine, but currently it feels like a broken system that is limping on for no good reason.
I can take that responsibility.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-25 23:56:35
October 25 2018 23:54 GMT
#9884
I was hoping that WOD would be the last expansion with mission table

The Legion implementation was okay for the first half of the expansion if you ignored all of the timegatey bullshit where you had to wake up at e.g. 2am and then 6am and then 10am to send missions in the first few weeks in order to unlock stuff like the third relic slot which was a one click 10% DPS increase. They added most of the problematic stuff later - missions that expired really fast, gave a ton of gold or resources etc; more powerful follower items so that you could spam duration reduction 200% success on everything.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8748 Posts
October 26 2018 17:09 GMT
#9885
I did a mythic+ with the current best group's comp (DK tank, monk healer, rogue, dh, hunter) and omg there's something magical about it. Great comp. Comp matters for so much in mythic+
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-26 17:26:35
October 26 2018 17:26 GMT
#9886
On October 27 2018 02:09 NonY wrote:
I did a mythic+ with the current best group's comp (DK tank, monk healer, rogue, dh, hunter) and omg there's something magical about it. Great comp. Comp matters for so much in mythic+


I think the range in that comp is flexible but the other 4 are no brainer hands down the best imo.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
October 26 2018 18:25 GMT
#9887
What is it that makes MW the stand out healer for that comp? Just the good mix of tank/groups heals?

I've had to scale back how much I play my MW due to lack of time, but was finding him generally pretty good for m+ even in ~350 gear
I can take that responsibility.
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
October 26 2018 18:45 GMT
#9888
monk has stun and ring of peace.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8748 Posts
October 26 2018 18:59 GMT
#9889
also boosts the group's physical damage. a good percentage of that comp's damage is physical
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
October 26 2018 19:03 GMT
#9890
Interesting, i thought only ww has that, but yeah with that comp thats pretty strong. Also i forgot about paralysis.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15664 Posts
October 26 2018 20:24 GMT
#9891
On October 27 2018 02:09 NonY wrote:
I did a mythic+ with the current best group's comp (DK tank, monk healer, rogue, dh, hunter) and omg there's something magical about it. Great comp. Comp matters for so much in mythic+


Hunter over mage? My impression is that mage lets tanks kite better, but maybe that's not necessary with a DK tank, lol.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-26 20:29:15
October 26 2018 20:27 GMT
#9892
I usually run with a frost mage. BDK is laughably OP, mistweaver is def great but not the only healer that works (disc and rdruid are both more popular)
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8748 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-26 20:40:42
October 26 2018 20:37 GMT
#9893
On October 27 2018 05:24 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2018 02:09 NonY wrote:
I did a mythic+ with the current best group's comp (DK tank, monk healer, rogue, dh, hunter) and omg there's something magical about it. Great comp. Comp matters for so much in mythic+


Hunter over mage? My impression is that mage lets tanks kite better, but maybe that's not necessary with a DK tank, lol.

I agree with rebs that the ranged slot is flexible. I think DK-Monk-DH-Rogue is a strong base for any affix/dungeon, and there are a few ranged you can take to complete the group, probably depending on the affixes and dungeon.

Just scrolling through the top runs on raider.io you can see the kind of comps that do well. Certainly there are other combos. If you pug regularly or if your static group doesn't fit one of those molds and is missing something important, then runs are just harder. I've never really attempted to make great comps, but rather just reasonable comps with players with good scores. But now that I tried a good comp, and if I keep doing mythic+ it's probably always gonna be me healing on my monk and my friend tanking on his DK, then we'll probably continue to make smart choices on the 3 DPS classes we pug.

But to do that we really ought to switch to horde because alliance has slim pickings.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28087 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-26 20:51:08
October 26 2018 20:49 GMT
#9894
Yea I listed my 10 key last night and immediately got like 30 applicants. Horde is swimming with people to choose from. Even just searching for a group you can easily see that there are far more groups listing high keys.

Also if you want to pug Mythic Uldir there’s always groups up on Illidan/Tich/Area52/etc.
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21650 Posts
October 26 2018 20:54 GMT
#9895
On October 27 2018 05:24 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2018 02:09 NonY wrote:
I did a mythic+ with the current best group's comp (DK tank, monk healer, rogue, dh, hunter) and omg there's something magical about it. Great comp. Comp matters for so much in mythic+


Hunter over mage? My impression is that mage lets tanks kite better, but maybe that's not necessary with a DK tank, lol.
BDK can spec into 90% slow (decaying) on D&D, so they are very strong to kite on their own already.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
October 26 2018 21:03 GMT
#9896
On October 27 2018 05:54 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2018 05:24 Mohdoo wrote:
On October 27 2018 02:09 NonY wrote:
I did a mythic+ with the current best group's comp (DK tank, monk healer, rogue, dh, hunter) and omg there's something magical about it. Great comp. Comp matters for so much in mythic+


Hunter over mage? My impression is that mage lets tanks kite better, but maybe that's not necessary with a DK tank, lol.
BDK can spec into 90% slow (decaying) on D&D, so they are very strong to kite on their own already.


Also have RoP from the MW, and rogue can have slow as well in 2/3 of their specs. Kiting usually isn't much of an issue in that base group. Hunters also bring an enrage dispel (so can boomies). The versatile classes definitely are performing very well atm.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-26 21:12:17
October 26 2018 21:09 GMT
#9897
On October 27 2018 05:37 NonY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2018 05:24 Mohdoo wrote:
On October 27 2018 02:09 NonY wrote:
I did a mythic+ with the current best group's comp (DK tank, monk healer, rogue, dh, hunter) and omg there's something magical about it. Great comp. Comp matters for so much in mythic+


Hunter over mage? My impression is that mage lets tanks kite better, but maybe that's not necessary with a DK tank, lol.

I agree with rebs that the ranged slot is flexible. I think DK-Monk-DH-Rogue is a strong base for any affix/dungeon, and there are a few ranged you can take to complete the group, probably depending on the affixes and dungeon.

Just scrolling through the top runs on raider.io you can see the kind of comps that do well. Certainly there are other combos. If you pug regularly or if your static group doesn't fit one of those molds and is missing something important, then runs are just harder. I've never really attempted to make great comps, but rather just reasonable comps with players with good scores. But now that I tried a good comp, and if I keep doing mythic+ it's probably always gonna be me healing on my monk and my friend tanking on his DK, then we'll probably continue to make smart choices on the 3 DPS classes we pug.

But to do that we really ought to switch to horde because alliance has slim pickings.


Yeah man, if I wasnt tethered by RL friends on Alliance I would never have switched, my old raid guilds 8/8 since last week so they have nothing to do but push keys and I'd be swimming in IO score with barely any effort if I was still playing casually with them. Malganis horde is pretty stacked anway.

Like my 1 decent run a week says "please dont go" but by any measure that would be the right thing to do if you want a more efficient experience.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8748 Posts
October 26 2018 21:20 GMT
#9898
Yeah I'm glad now I didn't pay for a server transfer too, so I can just faction change and be back on a very strong horde server. I might actually pug some Mythic Uldir now

I got baited by friends into changing to alliance too. These are guys that I played with for world firsts in other games, and when we cobbled together a WoW guild for WoD, we were top 50 world. And they are playing SO casual now, like they don't even get a 10 done each week. They took forever to clear heroic uldir. Totally baited. And we all played horde together earlier, so I don't even know why they decided to go alliance for BfA. A few other friends have quit already -- I don't blame them. I'm thinking about quitting too but in the meantime I'm just playing a lot less. Anyway, what a waste transferring to alliance
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15664 Posts
October 26 2018 21:41 GMT
#9899
On October 27 2018 05:54 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2018 05:24 Mohdoo wrote:
On October 27 2018 02:09 NonY wrote:
I did a mythic+ with the current best group's comp (DK tank, monk healer, rogue, dh, hunter) and omg there's something magical about it. Great comp. Comp matters for so much in mythic+


Hunter over mage? My impression is that mage lets tanks kite better, but maybe that's not necessary with a DK tank, lol.
BDK can spec into 90% slow (decaying) on D&D, so they are very strong to kite on their own already.


lmao

were blood DKs shitty, like really shitty, at some point? Blood DKs are senselessly amazing in every single way and I don't understand why Blizzard would make them so good. I know Blizzard likes to rotate OP'ness to an extent (while making shamans worthless no matter what), but blood DKs are just plain amazing. I feel like my DH is flat out inferior.

On the topic of my inferiority, you guys have drastically reduced it. I'm like 100x better at tanking now and I really appreciate all of your guy's help! I only wish I got good before I hit 370 and lost my motivation to play...
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-27 01:04:33
October 27 2018 00:57 GMT
#9900
They've done the thing again where we get told two separate and contradictory sets of events depending on which faction you play through the story on

either an entire faction (alternatively, both of them) is taking part in a giant shared hallucination (hello nzoth) or it doesn't make any sense

+ Show Spoiler +
Derek was also incinerated by a dragon and had his bones sink in an ocean during the second war, what's left for Sylvanas to res?
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
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