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On November 03 2016 06:57 GTR wrote:
I've created a Google Form/Spreadsheet for people to help add eachother.

Hopefully this will makes things easier for us to find people for Mythic+ runs and what not as opposed to sifting through 150+ pages of discussion.

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Spreadsheet

If a moderator could add this as a moderator note at the top it'd be appreciated.
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4557 Posts
February 14 2018 07:46 GMT
#7721
The reason why I will soon be leveling an alt from 1-110 is that I want a 4th character to run order hall missions on. The idea is to make enough money from those 4 chars each month to pay my sub. Sounds like I'll have a fun time leveling

On another note, mythic Vari down and good progress on Coven, wooo.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
February 14 2018 07:53 GMT
#7722
I have 2 other max level chars but I dont use them for order hall. It is just too annoying to gather order resources.
Off-season = best season
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4557 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-14 08:12:47
February 14 2018 08:12 GMT
#7723
On February 14 2018 16:53 Redox wrote:
I have 2 other max level chars but I dont use them for order hall. It is just too annoying to gather order resources.


if you do the broken shore questline you get 15K order resources at the end, that should last you a bit.

On my DK and Pala I buy the OH thing for 100 resources that completes a world quest every 18 hours, and just pick the world quest that rewards the most resources. Should give you 300+ resources to spend on missions each day. Been working fine so far. I assume each class has access to one of those.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
February 14 2018 08:26 GMT
#7724
I kinda want to start a new char since I really only have ever played my Shaman and DK but every time I want to start all over again at 1 it feels so....annoying? Maybe Vanilla leveling put me off but questing and leveling again from lvl 1 seems like such a chore. The only other character I even mildly tried leveling was like a 40 something hunter lol.
Never Knows Best.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-14 08:31:06
February 14 2018 08:30 GMT
#7725
On February 14 2018 16:53 Redox wrote:
I have 2 other max level chars but I dont use them for order hall. It is just too annoying to gather order resources.

Do BoS missions, trade BoS for OHR, use OHR for more bloods and gold
It's almost entirely self sustaining

On February 14 2018 17:12 Laurens wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2018 16:53 Redox wrote:
I have 2 other max level chars but I dont use them for order hall. It is just too annoying to gather order resources.


if you do the broken shore questline you get 15K order resources at the end, that should last you a bit.

On my DK and Pala I buy the OH thing for 100 resources that completes a world quest every 18 hours, and just pick the world quest that rewards the most resources. Should give you 300+ resources to spend on missions each day. Been working fine so far. I assume each class has access to one of those.

Not all classes do. But yes, that's a good source of OHR too.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Anlo
Profile Joined December 2013
Sweden485 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-14 09:02:26
February 14 2018 09:01 GMT
#7726
I have a bunch of 110's I run missions on and I feed the resources simply by doing the big order resource WQ's on Argus. They range from 1k-1.2k and they might not be up every day but some days 3-4 of them are up, some quick teleporting around and you are done.

I don't like trading bloods for resources since bloods are such a good goldincome I feel like a back-track when I do that so I refuse to on principle. The big WQ's are where it's at for alts.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
February 14 2018 09:01 GMT
#7727
On February 14 2018 17:30 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2018 16:53 Redox wrote:
I have 2 other max level chars but I dont use them for order hall. It is just too annoying to gather order resources.

Do BoS missions, trade BoS for OHR, use OHR for more bloods and gold
It's almost entirely self sustaining

Yeah but then I would effectively buy 200 order resources for 300 gold, which is what I would otherwise get for the blood. Sure I would still turn a profit, but I feel that cuts so far into the net income that all the daily clicking is not worth it to me.

And of course there is all the leveling on the followers I would have to do.
Off-season = best season
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
February 14 2018 09:32 GMT
#7728
Even when using bloods for OHR it's still a lot of profit if you want to minimize time spent per character, with the phone app it's pretty minimal amounts of time spent.

But yeah, order halls are an insanely good source of income at the moment.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 14 2018 09:34 GMT
#7729
Getting 200% chance easily on the 800-1000 gold missions which you seem to get 3/4 times a week adds an extra 1500 per one. So you are getting like 4-5k gold easily xd
It the only reason i do missions on top of getting the Antorus one.
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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-14 10:55:24
February 14 2018 10:52 GMT
#7730
5k (20k per month) is not much though in relation to the 300k you need every month.

Compare that to WoD where I would make easily twice the monthly fee on a single garrison. So that was 20 times as much.
Off-season = best season
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
February 14 2018 11:02 GMT
#7731
I don't have the exact number but it's far more than 20k per month, i'd say closer to 60 or 70k. One of my characters was at 200k a bit over a month ago and now has 275k.

Sure it's not garrison levels, but it's worthwhile gold for like less than a minute of time per day.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22283 Posts
February 14 2018 11:29 GMT
#7732
Last week I made 387k over 12 characters off Order Hall gold missions (one of which is still gearing up followers, finished the 6x 925 quest yesterday)
Sofar in Febuary i've made 784k, January was 1.6mil.

Once your geared up you can almost self sustain off of BoS missions by doing those + Gold missions. If your one of the 6 classes that can auto complete WQ's and get the right professions (Tailoring/LW/BS/Ench cause they have wq's for lots of blood) you actually run a surplus of Order Resources.

I check missions 3 times per day.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
February 14 2018 11:32 GMT
#7733
That's even more than i thought it'd be, but yeah, it's a really good amount of gold.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-14 17:22:17
February 14 2018 16:53 GMT
#7734
Just did 99-100 in 17 mins w/ questing, quite a lot more exp than the 70-80 and mobs died much easier as well. Exp requirements didn't scale up much @100

edit: Mob hp actually did by some 1.6x

do recommend going legion stuff at 98, you can do the quests then and get a bunch of gear with 4x as many stats before that scale up happens. If you arrive at 100 that first level is quite rough, even the heirlooms don't scale til 101 iirc
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-14 17:27:07
February 14 2018 17:25 GMT
#7735
On February 14 2018 10:05 Cyro wrote:
Thanks

as for the other stuff, the 50-60 hp and damage values really stuck out for me e.g. level 60 ZF boss having over 400k HP while the TBC and WOTLK bosses had 110k and 250k, WOTLK playing closest to perfect.

50-80 just took forever, i felt the 80-90 was a bit weird because the levels take the same amount of time as 60-80 but you're supposed to have 5 levels for Cata, 5 for MOP.. in the end you kinda skip half of that leveling time period and barely hit the content there compared to other expansions.

90-100 also took a while, but more in line with what it should be.. Unless they intend to keep leveling time way more constant from say 40 to 100? I'd like to see it lowered across the board if that's the case. My 60-80 time was level for level slower than the last time i did 100-110 despite trying real hard and being familiar with both sets of content.

Balance-wise quite a few things need a tuning pass but generally it seems very good aside from the exp numbers IMO - plus the availability of the level 110 boost and the ability to dungeon boost kinda destroy a long leveling process just by existing. Why spend 3-4 hours going 60-65 if you could do it in 25 minutes with a friend in Ramparts? Why spend 60 or 80 hours leveling to 110 when you can pay 60 euros (a tiny fraction of minimum wage) to skip there instead? Sure it's supposed to be enjoyable but this is a huge amount of time we're talking about. Time is money and having these options competing at all is way too big of an incentive for players to take them. They're not fun options (paying 60 euro or running 100++ trivial dungeons with your friend throughout leveling) so pressuring people that don't really want to use them into taking them for practical reasons isn't great for gameplay


The 50-60 took about the same as 80-90 for me, with 60-80 being considerably slower. I'm at 99 now and 90-99 was considerably faster than any of that. I just blew through Frostfire, started Gorgrond, and as soon as I had the Shredder I started smashing through bonus objectives, only doing quests that happened to be nearby and were easy/quick. Bonus objectives are 100k+ experience at that point and most of them are barely harder to do than a regular quest.

In general it sounds like you're faster than I am though. I assume you're mostly dungeon boosting rather than questing.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-14 18:03:50
February 14 2018 17:34 GMT
#7736
On February 15 2018 02:25 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2018 10:05 Cyro wrote:
Thanks

as for the other stuff, the 50-60 hp and damage values really stuck out for me e.g. level 60 ZF boss having over 400k HP while the TBC and WOTLK bosses had 110k and 250k, WOTLK playing closest to perfect.

50-80 just took forever, i felt the 80-90 was a bit weird because the levels take the same amount of time as 60-80 but you're supposed to have 5 levels for Cata, 5 for MOP.. in the end you kinda skip half of that leveling time period and barely hit the content there compared to other expansions.

90-100 also took a while, but more in line with what it should be.. Unless they intend to keep leveling time way more constant from say 40 to 100? I'd like to see it lowered across the board if that's the case. My 60-80 time was level for level slower than the last time i did 100-110 despite trying real hard and being familiar with both sets of content.

Balance-wise quite a few things need a tuning pass but generally it seems very good aside from the exp numbers IMO - plus the availability of the level 110 boost and the ability to dungeon boost kinda destroy a long leveling process just by existing. Why spend 3-4 hours going 60-65 if you could do it in 25 minutes with a friend in Ramparts? Why spend 60 or 80 hours leveling to 110 when you can pay 60 euros (a tiny fraction of minimum wage) to skip there instead? Sure it's supposed to be enjoyable but this is a huge amount of time we're talking about. Time is money and having these options competing at all is way too big of an incentive for players to take them. They're not fun options (paying 60 euro or running 100++ trivial dungeons with your friend throughout leveling) so pressuring people that don't really want to use them into taking them for practical reasons isn't great for gameplay


The 50-60 took about the same as 80-90 for me, with 60-80 being considerably slower. I'm at 99 now and 90-99 was considerably faster than any of that. I just blew through Frostfire, started Gorgrond, and as soon as I had the Shredder I started smashing through bonus objectives, only doing quests that happened to be nearby and were easy/quick. Bonus objectives are 100k+ experience at that point and most of them are barely harder to do than a regular quest.

In general it sounds like you're faster than I am though. I assume you're mostly dungeon boosting rather than questing.


did a lot of dungeon boosting but from pure questing the slowest periods were about 45min/lvl in the 70's. In dungeon it could be 7 min per lvl at that point

I like 30 min or 1 hour of fast questing for pacing, it's just a bit much for so many levels in a row rather than only in the last expansion. The time-per-level curve is very flat now across a huge range of levels with 80-110 content taking similar time as 50-80 in my experience. It takes way longer than before and the alternatives are too strong

Oh damn, we only get one of the heritage armor set colors and they hotfix changed the one that we get from my favourite color to one that i liked less. I'm finding this out at 102
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
February 14 2018 18:12 GMT
#7737
Had a weird problem. I did a dungeon as my restro shaman and it wouldn't let me cast any of my offensive spells (insert joke here about lazy healers).

But both before and after it was casting just fine. A weird UI bug? Or something to do with that I went into the queue with a lvl 106?
Never Knows Best.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22283 Posts
February 14 2018 18:19 GMT
#7738
On February 15 2018 03:12 Slaughter wrote:
Had a weird problem. I did a dungeon as my restro shaman and it wouldn't let me cast any of my offensive spells (insert joke here about lazy healers).

But both before and after it was casting just fine. A weird UI bug? Or something to do with that I went into the queue with a lvl 106?

Some Party ui addon interfering?
Mouseover healing bound to the same key as your offensive spells? (i've had that before with VuhDo, was hella confused until I figured it out).
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
February 15 2018 14:46 GMT
#7739
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20761996118#1

So yeah the dungeon boosting was nerfed via hotfix while the bonus for completing a random dungeon from the tool was buffed.
Off-season = best season
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-15 14:52:50
February 15 2018 14:52 GMT
#7740
On February 14 2018 20:02 Unleashing wrote:
I don't have the exact number but it's far more than 20k per month, i'd say closer to 60 or 70k. One of my characters was at 200k a bit over a month ago and now has 275k.

Sure it's not garrison levels, but it's worthwhile gold for like less than a minute of time per day.

So to get all these gold quests do you need to do the Argus quest line? I would really hate to do that again. :/
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