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On November 03 2016 06:57 GTR wrote:
I've created a Google Form/Spreadsheet for people to help add eachother.

Hopefully this will makes things easier for us to find people for Mythic+ runs and what not as opposed to sifting through 150+ pages of discussion.

Form
Spreadsheet

If a moderator could add this as a moderator note at the top it'd be appreciated.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-11 19:31:25
October 11 2016 19:28 GMT
#3341
Fire outnumbering Frost 100 to 1 in heroic raid parses a few weeks after balance patch is still a little shocking. I've been curious how good Blizzard is (aoe) since they buffed it by so much but i've never seen anybody cast it yet
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-11 19:32:10
October 11 2016 19:30 GMT
#3342
Doesn't really apply to raiding, no encounter really makes any use of something like Blizzard aoe. Maybe heroic ilgynoth. Plus fire just aoe/cleaving passively by ignite spreading on its own is pretty crazy. Like, on our last hc xav kill, our fire mage's ignite dpsed the tentacles in last phase alone more than his whole dmg to the boss itself during the whole fight.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
October 11 2016 19:31 GMT
#3343
Usable for mythic+ at least
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
October 11 2016 19:32 GMT
#3344
Maybe, but I think fire still wins hands down.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21666 Posts
October 11 2016 19:41 GMT
#3345
On October 12 2016 04:28 Cyro wrote:
Fire outnumbering Frost 100 to 1 in heroic raid parses a few weeks after balance patch is still a little shocking. I've been curious how good Blizzard is (aoe) since they buffed it by so much but i've never seen anybody cast it yet

Because every mage invested in Fire artifact.
Why would they switch to Frost unless it is a big dps increase? (which I believe it is not)
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
October 11 2016 19:43 GMT
#3346
This is a major limiter in offspeccing currently, and will continue to be for a month or 2. There's very little point for me for example to change into my holy spec for a fight, when that artifact is 7 levels behind and 40 ilvls.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-11 20:05:33
October 11 2016 19:56 GMT
#3347
Offspec is doable, my druid friend plays every spec and has all weapons at ~15-17+ with resto and feral around 25. It delays prestige 1 trait (+5% dmg or +5% healing) for a bit but is otherwise of little significance once you can get most of the important traits.

It takes ~500k to rank 25 and ~6.9 million to prestige 1; in between those i gain only ~2% DPS and ~7% health.

-----

@"fire is good" comments - yeah it's really good, but that hasn't stopped heroic raiders from playing suboptimal specs that much before. Frost sucked for the last few tiers too and it still had 10-20x the representation - prelaunch numbers & artifact scare really had an impact
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
October 11 2016 19:58 GMT
#3348
Fire mages are also really good so there is little incentive to invest in Frost.
WriterXiao8~~
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
October 11 2016 20:05 GMT
#3349
On October 12 2016 04:56 Cyro wrote:
Offspec is doable, my druid friend plays every spec and has all weapons at ~15-17+ with resto and feral around 25. It delays prestige 1 trait (+5% dmg or +5% healing) for a bit but is otherwise of little significance once you can get most of the important traits


Your friend has farmed a ton of AP, that's nearly a million. I got my weapons at 26/21/13 with 930k some AP total so far.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-11 20:23:25
October 11 2016 20:06 GMT
#3350
On October 12 2016 05:05 daemir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2016 04:56 Cyro wrote:
Offspec is doable, my druid friend plays every spec and has all weapons at ~15-17+ with resto and feral around 25. It delays prestige 1 trait (+5% dmg or +5% healing) for a bit but is otherwise of little significance once you can get most of the important traits


Your friend has farmed a ton of AP, that's nearly a million. I got my weapons at 26/21/13 with 930k some AP total so far.


I've got ~750k, he has 1.1 million and the highest AP players in the world are a little over 2 million

lots of incentive to farm when Feral has a single trait which gives +11% damage around rank 25 lolol
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
October 11 2016 20:30 GMT
#3351
I like my BrM so far, but definitely undergeared for what I have ran him for.

Did Mythic EoA at 804, and felt really good except when we accidentally triple pulled trash mobs. Even then it was dicey but only when I ran out of brew charges.

Did a BRH +5 Teeming last night at 841 ilevel now and definitely tough. But there were a few pulls that were just painful (3x wraith guards giving me 6 million stagger in 2 seconds lol). I think as I get closer to 850+ and more refined stats (I am way below haste requirement even with High Tolerance talent) it will get easier. It is a huge difference in that most of my damage intake is through stagger (like a few fights 80-90% of my damage taken was stagger). Compared to other tanks who just mitigate up front, I take that damage over time and must plan more in my brew charges because when I run out I get screwed lol. That would be my biggest complaint with BrM is the charge system for brews.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-11 20:39:40
October 11 2016 20:38 GMT
#3352
The special melee attack on those wraithguards seems to have infinite range, seen them kill tank from 30+ meters away too often.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
October 11 2016 20:51 GMT
#3353
On October 12 2016 05:06 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2016 05:05 daemir wrote:
On October 12 2016 04:56 Cyro wrote:
Offspec is doable, my druid friend plays every spec and has all weapons at ~15-17+ with resto and feral around 25. It delays prestige 1 trait (+5% dmg or +5% healing) for a bit but is otherwise of little significance once you can get most of the important traits


Your friend has farmed a ton of AP, that's nearly a million. I got my weapons at 26/21/13 with 930k some AP total so far.


I've got ~750k, he has 1.1 million and the highest AP players in the world are a little over 2 million

lots of incentive to farm when Feral has a single trait which gives +11% damage around rank 25 lolol


You made me go add it for myself, was curious, and I'm barely at 500k splitted between my 3 specs. That feels low somehow, despite being 23/19/19
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-11 21:27:47
October 11 2016 21:23 GMT
#3354
On October 12 2016 05:51 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2016 05:06 Cyro wrote:
On October 12 2016 05:05 daemir wrote:
On October 12 2016 04:56 Cyro wrote:
Offspec is doable, my druid friend plays every spec and has all weapons at ~15-17+ with resto and feral around 25. It delays prestige 1 trait (+5% dmg or +5% healing) for a bit but is otherwise of little significance once you can get most of the important traits


Your friend has farmed a ton of AP, that's nearly a million. I got my weapons at 26/21/13 with 930k some AP total so far.


I've got ~750k, he has 1.1 million and the highest AP players in the world are a little over 2 million

lots of incentive to farm when Feral has a single trait which gives +11% damage around rank 25 lolol


You made me go add it for myself, was curious, and I'm barely at 500k splitted between my 3 specs. That feels low somehow, despite being 23/19/19


Trait 28 costs almost as much as 1-23 does

23 traits is 2/3'rds of the artifact for 4% of the cost of all traits + prestige 1
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
October 11 2016 22:35 GMT
#3355
Yeah but its stupid to think of it that way because were at max 500% artifact power right now. Of course it will be nothing in 3 months when were at hundred thousand whatever power, but right now 1-23 is fucking significant alright.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
October 11 2016 23:08 GMT
#3356
the knowledge thing keeps you in a certain area of artifact level and if you want to get higher, you have to consistently farm AP.
If you stop to nolife, you fall behind again.

I see no point in farming AP like that especially if i was a "pro" guy that beat mythic allready.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-11 23:15:13
October 11 2016 23:08 GMT
#3357
Sure it's significant but some people have done it 8x over already and a huge chunk of people have done it 2-3x over

We have 6x AP right now, baseline is 100% and AK gives +500% for 600% total
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
October 11 2016 23:34 GMT
#3358
Depends on the class but I have to farm about 120k or so just to get another 10second off my pain supression lol, my weapon is level 25 right now.
WriterXiao8~~
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
October 12 2016 05:40 GMT
#3359
Every trait still gives you 0.5% extra damage and some health. I'm done with most impactful disc traits by now, but that 5% extra dmg "paragon" level seems veeery nice.
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10655 Posts
October 12 2016 05:50 GMT
#3360
Damn some mission bonus rewards gives you seal of broken fate. Pretty goddamn sweet if you ask me.
Skol
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