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On November 03 2016 06:57 GTR wrote:
I've created a Google Form/Spreadsheet for people to help add eachother.

Hopefully this will makes things easier for us to find people for Mythic+ runs and what not as opposed to sifting through 150+ pages of discussion.

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If a moderator could add this as a moderator note at the top it'd be appreciated.
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
September 16 2016 23:51 GMT
#2521
Flasks are incredibly difficult to make at the moment because of Starlight Roses being a massive pain in the ass. I have ~20 made and that represents a solid week of farming a couple hours a day.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22545 Posts
September 16 2016 23:58 GMT
#2522
On September 17 2016 08:51 deth2munkies wrote:
Flasks are incredibly difficult to make at the moment because of Starlight Roses being a massive pain in the ass. I have ~20 made and that represents a solid week of farming a couple hours a day.

If you consider the amount of starlight rose needed to feed 20 raiders for 9 hours with flasks and pots, man thats a lot of money ><
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-17 00:02:51
September 17 2016 00:00 GMT
#2523
On September 17 2016 08:58 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2016 08:51 deth2munkies wrote:
Flasks are incredibly difficult to make at the moment because of Starlight Roses being a massive pain in the ass. I have ~20 made and that represents a solid week of farming a couple hours a day.

If you consider the amount of starlight rose needed to feed 20 raiders for 9 hours with flasks and pots, man thats a lot of money ><


It's a lot of time.

And consider that DPS pots, that you use a shitload of per raid (at least 20 for a ~4-5 hour raid going through the first time) require 2 Roses each as well.

Fuck Alchemy this expansion.

The cherry on top is that Felwort is our daily quest reagent and it's used in fuck all. Just the Trinket that's not even good. So I have stacks of this shit that I'll never use. Sure, it's used by other professions, but why do I care?
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-17 00:30:44
September 17 2016 00:29 GMT
#2524
Everyone is stuck on the Roses i guess. Herb/alch friend refuses to make pots/flasks because of the difficulty of gathering roses, he doesn't have enough hours to make 200 pots for me on the first mythic+/raid week

The cherry on top is that Felwort is our daily quest reagent and it's used in fuck all. Just the Trinket that's not even good. So I have stacks of this shit that I'll never use. Sure, it's used by other professions, but why do I care?


You can sell it. Trinket is decent! it's also a good way to dump materials into Obliterum since a trinket craft will get you 1 obliterum (2 if it procs double)
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-17 00:53:51
September 17 2016 00:49 GMT
#2525
If I was your friend I would not make a single flask for you for free. Why would anyone do that? It is the same as gifting someone gold. I would just tell you to buy the herbs.

Also as a herbalist I would never farm Starlight Roses just because I need them for something. I would farm (or generally do) whatever brings me most gold and then buy the roses.

People regarding materials different from gold although they can be easily exchanged into each other is one of my pet peeves in WoW.
Off-season = best season
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-17 00:59:51
September 17 2016 00:54 GMT
#2526
If I was your friend I would not make a single flask for you for free. Why would anyone do that? It is the same as gifting someone gold.


Firstly i've known the guy for half of our lives and given him like a hundred euros worth of gold (token price) in the last 3 months, secondly i didn't say "free" anywhere in that post. He's just struggling to make any amount of potions/flasks for even one person despite gathering for hours.

It bugs me too, time is money; a penny saved is a penny earned etc. We just don't take currency as seriously when it comes to friends!

It's cool to have your own ecosystem with trading all personal loot drops to a disenchanter, mats to crafters etc without going through the AH as well. We just only have one herb guy right now
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-17 01:06:42
September 17 2016 00:58 GMT
#2527
On September 17 2016 09:54 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
If I was your friend I would not make a single flask for you for free. Why would anyone do that? It is the same as gifting someone gold.


Firstly i've known the guy for most of my life and given him like a hundred euros worth of gold (token price) in the last 3 months, secondly i didn't say "free" anywhere in that post.

Eh that was not quite the point. The point was about herbs = gold, so if I was your friend and you were poor or whatever I would just give you gold to buy flasks with.

And specifically farming herbs should almost never be worth it. I gather on the side while questing and otherwise I just buy what I need.

Btw the best herb farming I have seen was from the plant mobs around darkheart thicket entrance. They give herbs (and blood) like a normal herb node but there are a lot of them. And if there is a world quest you dont even need to kill them yourself.
Off-season = best season
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
September 17 2016 01:01 GMT
#2528
Alchemy bothers me little apart from the ridicilous requirements for all of the quests that have to be done

what bothers me more is Nomi and his "cooking skills".
WriterXiao8~~
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
September 17 2016 01:20 GMT
#2529
How can it not be profitable to go herbing roses currently? Northern Suramar is completely full of roses and most of them can be picked without agroing anything. Last I looked they were like 80 gold a piece on my server, I run a screen's worth and find 4-5 that takes probably all of 20 seconds to pick up. Gotta be helluva farming methods if you beat that rate.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-17 01:44:51
September 17 2016 01:44 GMT
#2530
How can it not be profitable to go herbing roses currently? Northern Suramar is completely full of roses and most of them can be picked without agroing anything.


From what i've heard most herbs give you a bunch and the suramar ones only have a coinflip chance of giving you a single herb. At those prices it still seems like it could be good.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Foxxan
Profile Joined October 2004
Sweden3427 Posts
September 17 2016 01:53 GMT
#2531
Agree, noomi clearly cant cook. It taste like crap.
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
September 17 2016 02:00 GMT
#2532
Roses on my server are still like 140g a piece. It's worth it but I haven't even found even enough for myself yet because of extra work these past few weeks and limited play time.
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-17 02:24:19
September 17 2016 02:19 GMT
#2533
On September 17 2016 10:44 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
How can it not be profitable to go herbing roses currently? Northern Suramar is completely full of roses and most of them can be picked without agroing anything.


From what i've heard most herbs give you a bunch and the suramar ones only have a coinflip chance of giving you a single herb. At those prices it still seems like it could be good.


If you have rank3 starlight rose herbing, you have 100% chance to get one rose per node. They are and will stay as the most expensive herb whole expansion as they are needed in all of the most important raid consumables, flasks and dps/dreamless sleep potions.

Like I waited for some guildies to finish a last boss fight in a hc to group up with them afterwards and gathered 40 roses while waiting since I was in suramar already. That's 3600 gold in a few minutes.

Boring as shit though.


Also, wtf am I supposed to do with these order resources? I now have over 60k of them with all possible research going on. WTB a trader that sells crafting mats for resources.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
September 17 2016 09:24 GMT
#2534
Well there are guides saying you can make 15k / hour farming Foxflower etc. Idk what would make most since I have not done any specific farming myself.
The actual point I wanted to make was "Dont farm what you need, do what makes you most gold then buy what you need." If that which makes most gold is farming Starlight Roses sure it makes sense to do that.
Off-season = best season
Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
September 17 2016 09:53 GMT
#2535
Last night I checked Foxflowers for the blacksmithing quest. 50g a piece for a common flower?
Nothing is impossible, only some things for some people.
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
September 17 2016 10:07 GMT
#2536
It's not going to stay at 50g because rank3 foxflower increases the flowers you get + you always have the chance to summon the fox while herbing them, increasing yield massively. However, we will be stuck with <= 1 rose per node unless they make changes in future patches as well as roses being used in all important consumables.
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
September 17 2016 10:10 GMT
#2537
The change in future patch is the Blood trader, I have >200 Bloods rn which will translate into 1000 roses if 7.1 were to hit tomorrow. And as an herb/alch I don't use Bloods on anything, so that number is just going to go up and up and up as time goes on
rip
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
September 17 2016 10:23 GMT
#2538
On September 17 2016 19:10 TomatoBisque wrote:
The change in future patch is the Blood trader, I have >200 Bloods rn which will translate into 1000 roses if 7.1 were to hit tomorrow. And as an herb/alch I don't use Bloods on anything, so that number is just going to go up and up and up as time goes on

Oh that is good info. I was wondering what to do with my blood and also skipped doing quests for it. At current prices this would mean 1 blood is more than 500g.
Off-season = best season
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-17 12:03:00
September 17 2016 12:02 GMT
#2539
everyone has 200-1000 bloods sat in their bag, if those vendor quantities don't get nerfed to death then the price of everything will drop to almost nothing
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-17 12:07:07
September 17 2016 12:06 GMT
#2540
I've been easily using my bloods and turning them into obliterum
netted me a lot of money, made my bloods worth quite a lot
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
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