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Ghostcom
Denmark4783 Posts
On March 28 2015 09:02 Jaaaaasper wrote: Ahhh the classic if you can't beat them complain until what ever beat you is banned. Colts 2003-tbd. I think you are the most avid Colts-hater I have ever come across - did they steal you toys when you were a kid? | ||
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Jerubaal
United States7684 Posts
On March 28 2015 09:02 Jaaaaasper wrote: Ahhh the classic if you can't beat them complain until what ever beat you is banned. Colts 2003-tbd. So the bears are a fine upstanding organization? | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On March 28 2015 09:37 Ghostcom wrote: I think you are the most avid Colts-hater I have ever come across - did they steal you toys when you were a kid? The Colts are a pretty mediocre and incredibly lucky org though. I mean, Manning and Luck both could have come out a year earlier. | ||
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giftdgecko
United States2126 Posts
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Teoita
Italy12246 Posts
On March 28 2015 04:43 y0su wrote: illegal for an offensive player with an eligible number to declare himself ineligible and line up outside the “core” of the formation. Ah i see, so basically unbalanced formations now will only have an extra lineman instead of swapping the tight end and lineman, and also thatcrazyass formation the patriots used won't be legal i guess. | ||
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y0su
Finland7871 Posts
On March 28 2015 17:30 Teoita wrote: Ah i see, so basically unbalanced formations now will only have an extra lineman instead of swapping the tight end and lineman, and also thatcrazyass formation the patriots used won't be legal i guess. exactly | ||
Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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giftdgecko
United States2126 Posts
On March 28 2015 02:19 Souma wrote: I will always hate the Patriots... only because they always beat the Chargers. :| The Chargers beat the Patriots in 1970, then didn't beat them again for 32 years lol. Since then it's actually been fairly even, 6-3 in favor of the Pats. Could be worse though, the Bills are 4-26 against the Pats since 2000 | ||
Souma
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
On March 29 2015 02:51 giftdgecko wrote: The Chargers beat the Patriots in 1970, then didn't beat them again for 32 years lol. Since then it's actually been fairly even, 6-3 in favor of the Pats. Could be worse though, the Bills are 4-26 against the Pats since 2000 Haha nice. When was the last time the Chargers beat the Pats? I don't recall. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32130 Posts
On March 28 2015 09:37 Ghostcom wrote: I think you are the most avid Colts-hater I have ever come across - did they steal you toys when you were a kid? irsay's a cockbag of a human, and it's pretty easy to hate them since they got two franchise qbs in a row and never did much to build a full team around them | ||
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farvacola
United States18856 Posts
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
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FatChicksUnited
Canada214 Posts
On March 29 2015 09:18 andrewlt wrote: Unfortunately, outside of getting Manning and Luck, little differentiates the Colts front office versus the ones of, for example, the Bills and Jets. There's a huge difference between them. The Bills and Jets have signed or drafted and developed loads of defensive talent over the last few years, and each have signed/drafted some serious weapons at their skill positions. They both have fairly strong, complete rosters and are just missing franchise quarterbacks. On the other hand, the Colts have no young talent outside of Luck, Hilton, and their two tight ends. Their last two drafts have been total losses. Their free agent signings have been largely mediocre and the best player on their defense was somehow gifted to them from the Dolphins. This year they've "reloaded" with a 31 year old running back, a 33 year old wide receiver, a 32 year old guard, and a 32 year old edge rusher, somehow not managing to address their run defense. Griggson is incompetent and Pagano hasn't been great either. But the Andrew Luck halo is bright like the sun and Griggs is standing close enough that he shimmers as well. The saddest thing about the above is that next year the Colts will do better than the Jets and the Bills anyway just because they were lucky enough to have the #1 pick the year that Andrew Luck decided to finish school. Luck will again lead the Colts to the playoffs, granting Griggs and Pags their contract extensions, and dooming himself to carrying mediocre teams to the playoffs for years to come. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32130 Posts
Likewise, Gore still had a very good year on an otherwise shit offense, and where he is going he will not face a stacked box for the first time in his career. Also his running style is something that ages well imo, and people forget that he's fantastic out of the backfield... the Niners just did not like to use that much with Kap (probably because he is awful at short throws). So while I do think that the Colts got dragged kicking and screaming into the playoffs by Luck, they still were a win away from the SB in spite of that. That's how goddamn good that man is. And they added two potential HOFers who still clearly have gas in the tank, and will be put in much better positons than they were on their previous teams, while not being the focal point of the offense. There are plenty of reasons to bag on the Colts but i think those were veyr good moves for a team that was that close to the SB, even if it was almost entirely due to Luck. Seriously, that's a 5 win team if he went down with injury. | ||
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AgentW
United States7725 Posts
Addressing Johnson and Gore: I agree with Hawk on Johnson but disagree on Gore. Johnson is teetering between two outcomes: declining skills due to his age or a rebirth after escaping a terrible situation. Because of the points Hawk mentioned, I think it's the former. There was underlying ability that was crushed by incompetent quarterback play. As for Gore, I think that there are very, very few RBs who have performed well at 32 and even fewer at 33 and 34, so that one is going to look bad in a few years unless he retires, though cutting him after the second year isn't exactly the nuclear option. Barnwell wrote about this recently: http://grantland.com/the-triangle/the-10-worst-free-agent-deals-so-far/ | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32130 Posts
As far as the points on Gore in the Grantland article, his pass catching abilities have been underutilized not because he's declined, but because the Niners under Harbaugh hardly ever used it be it screens, flats, etc. It was how they designed their offense for whatever reason (iirc, Harbaugh had quotes saying he did not think it fit their personnel, namely the line). I also think Kap's inability to throw accurate touch throws hurt that big time. He was a lock for 40+ catches every year prior to Harbaugh. Obviously the age thing is a concern for backs getting up there, but I also don't think they're eating a lot if they have to cut him after the second year as mentioned. As I mentioned, the things that make Gore so successful - vision, patience hitting the hole, ability to make that one move to make things open, always falling forward, pass blocking - are all things that really don't deteriorate with age. His game was always built on that foundation, not really speed or anything like that. Like I don't think he's gonna go off for 1400yds on the ground or anything, but I think he will definitely get about 200 carries if they are smart to conserve him, and he'll get his 1000yds and 30-40 catches. I think if he comes to about that, it's considered a success for them. They're not looking for a RB to carry the team. They're looking for an RB that can make use of the wonderful holes that having Luck under center opens for the running game, much like the effect that Peyton has on the run game. I think it's year 2 and beyond that's more of a question for the reasons you and the article outlined. | ||
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AgentW
United States7725 Posts
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/cap-hit/running-back/ EDIT: It appears that his third year is non-guarenteed. They can cut him with no cap hit. That's pretty nice. EDIT 2: Just looking at that list proves again how atrocious Peterson's contract is. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32130 Posts
The argument against him in my mind would be that what if he hits that rb cliff this year, and would you have been able to get similar production for less by going with a draft pick and a cheaper player? | ||
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FatChicksUnited
Canada214 Posts
One huge thing I definitely have to give him credit for is the way his free agent contracts are structured. They might overpay a bit, but they never overcommit. On a year to year basis they consistently retain the ability to cut the underperformers without much negative effect and move on to the next batch of mediocre vets. He is one of the few GM's who manages to give himself significant spending room year after year while still putting together a passable roster (so Oakland and the Jags don't count). | ||
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United States2685 Posts
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