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ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
December 17 2014 02:45 GMT
#21
On December 17 2014 08:17 Probemicro wrote:
Its an irony hes from the same country as Stratos lol


How is it ironic?

On December 17 2014 09:33 Cele wrote:
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On December 17 2014 07:54 ninazerg wrote:
On December 16 2014 23:09 PharaphobiaSC2 wrote:
There are few ppl who hates me alot so they probably made a fake account...


On October 09 2014 16:50 Pharaphobia wrote:
I love those BW tears (: few pages ago the mistery was solved that SoulKey actually visited JangBi... and they strated on afreeca.. on the otherhand after few years in gaming house I can understand that he want to visit friends

User was banned for this post and the post below and a history of bad posting.


If only you had gotten to the ID 'Pharaphobia' first. It's also pretty impressive that they got your style of English writing down so well so that they even got your mannerisms down, and knew you were from the Czech Republic. What confuses me is why, as a method of discrediting you, they would just post randomly on TL like a normal person who occasionally crosses the line with passive-aggressive humor. I'm not an expert on Czech culture, so this kind of behavior might be seen as the ultimate disgrace. I dunno. What did you do to get them to hate you so much that they stalk you and learn to mimic you almost exactly?


come on let's cut the crap. it's most likely him and he has matured now and acknowledged that BW is the best game in the history of the multiverses and he was only agressive in tzhe first place, coz he didn't want to admit it. No Seriously, is this worth a drama thread? I think no.


Dude, it's definitely not him, didn't you read what he wrote when you brought it up? He said it was the work of those who hate on him. I was saying that they did a good job of trying to bring him down by almost imitating him perfectly. It's not hard to do, even I could do it. Just add some random smiles and then end some sentences with an ellipsis... :p then just use 'Czech republik' as country! The way you bring this up... it is very suspect
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19229 Posts
December 17 2014 03:21 GMT
#22
Well this thread died.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
PharaphobiaSC2
Profile Joined November 2014
Czech Republic85 Posts
December 17 2014 06:56 GMT
#23
No it's not dead, however if you don't trust me it's okay... but let me ask few more questions

1.) Let's say we pick up 16 Europe players with fulltime jobs (like I have). Tournament would start at 18:00 CET (so like 20:00 in Russia? and 17:00 in Spain? I think it will be possible to make it as one evening event with livecasted games and maybe finals from replays. You think this scenario is possible?

2.) I tried obs and it's working fine so even my special overlays for Brood War

3.) It makes no sense to me why would I hate the game and then trying to bring some fun tourney for money? ;p

I all already apologized I think so I will do it again. Excuse me if you run in conflict with somebody using my name.. please unless you will see SC2 behind my nickname it would be me (Except in BroodWar/SC2/twitch). Sorry again and I really hope that we can make this tournament real
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-18 16:29:21
December 17 2014 10:15 GMT
#24
On December 17 2014 07:54 ninazerg wrote:
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On December 16 2014 23:09 PharaphobiaSC2 wrote:
There are few ppl who hates me alot so they probably made a fake account...


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On October 09 2014 16:50 Pharaphobia wrote:
I love those BW tears (: few pages ago the mistery was solved that SoulKey actually visited JangBi... and they strated on afreeca.. on the otherhand after few years in gaming house I can understand that he want to visit friends

User was banned for this post and the post below and a history of bad posting.


If only you had gotten to the ID 'Pharaphobia' first. It's also pretty impressive that they got your style of English writing down so well so that they even got your mannerisms down, and knew you were from the Czech Republic. What confuses me is why, as a method of discrediting you, they would just post randomly on TL like a normal person who occasionally crosses the line with passive-aggressive humor. I'm not an expert on Czech culture, so this kind of behavior might be seen as the ultimate disgrace. I dunno. What did you do to get them to hate you so much that they stalk you and learn to mimic you almost exactly?

Ninazerg, online stalking and identity theft are very real things. Your initial investigative work has brought the issue to my attention, and after a little snooping around I have found irrefutable evidence that we are dealing with professionals here. However, I fear you may be a co-conspirator, because one of the Pharaphobias showed romantic interest in you (I can dig up the post if necessary but I decided to give you both some privacy and respect), so I have to make my findings public.

@PharaphobiaSC2: Here are the reasons why I am certain your internet security and anonymity have been compromised:

1. The perpetrators/imitators did not come after you. They came BEFORE you.
This is perhaps the most disturbing and incriminating fact I have managed to uncover. It is one thing to imitate someone in a public outlet where they have already made their presence known. That is easy. You simply have to study their posting style and reproduce it.

These criminals, however, managed to not only replicate your posting style before it became publicly known to this community, they had planned it nearly 9 months in advance. Please refer to the timeline below:

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The pattern of their activity is also indicative of intense personal knowledge of not just your posting mannerisms, but of your very intentions; things that have not yet come to pass. Seemingly knowing that you would one day be tempted by the forum that is TeamLiquid, they lay in waiting for you to express interest in joining. They were clearly tipped off at some point prior to 23/10/2013. However, they waited until 17/07/2014 to start posting. Why?

Very simple: the time wasn't right. They put the time under their belt, so that if it came to you vs. them, they would win being that they have tenure. If you were to confront "Pharaphobia" directly, they would claim that YOU are the imitator, and have the dates to prove it. Unfortunately, this never came to pass. They were banned on 09/10/2014; you joined on 25/11/2014. Doesn't that seem a little odd?

To me, this reads as an obvious clue. The perpetrator(s) is(are) likely cowardly. They cannot admit when they have made a mistake, told or lived a lie, said things just to put on a false image, and they will deny that they are in denial.They did not have the stones to handle the confrontation between the real "Pharaphobia" (PharaphobiaSC2) and the fake that they put forward. Thus, they began making increasingly offensive posts in order to get permanently banned and make a clean getaway, tarnishing your reputation in the process.

Please review who you have been talking to between July and November 2014. Someone must have known that you were planning to make your account on TeamLiquid soon, otherwise such a perfect exit would not have been possible, and confrontation would have been inevitable. Everyone you have mentioned this information to is suspect.

2. They were privy to your posting style before you made your appearance here.
This has been mentioned above by my fellow sleuth Ninazerg, but it is worth repeating with added weight. The real issue here is that this must be someone who followed you closely enough from July (probably) or at least October, either in person or electronically.

Posts of "Pharaphobia":
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On October 09 2014 16:50 Pharaphobia wrote:
I love those BW tears (: few pages ago the mistery was solved that SoulKey actually visited JangBi... and they strated on afreeca.. on the otherhand after few years in gaming house I can understand that he want to visit friends

User was banned for this post and the post below and a history of bad posting.

On August 01 2014 14:21 Pharaphobia wrote:
Good luck dude! I know you feel about that motivation I love StarCraft but I was missing a certain point of self succeed until I switched from Z to T !

Hope you gonna have a chance to go to korea or maybe go back to school and became casual beast gm zerg? (I will throw my money at you in both cases if support will be needed :D!)

On August 06 2014 15:02 Pharaphobia wrote:
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On August 06 2014 03:26 Ch4ron66 wrote:
Most unprofessional tourny stream i have ever seen

Wow dude Steven is doing good job for hosting his first tournament without any previous experience as ADMIN+Caster.... Fags like you are fcking cancer for this community. It wasn't mean to be a proffesional tourney and Steven is not a proffesional caster... above all 13k viewers is more than enough for the 1st day and there no big downtimes or bad moments so pls I would appreciate if you would watch only wcs or iem gsl or spl and write a list or every single mistake or error they did.. I wish somebody did same thing in your life..

User was temp banned for this post.
On July 17 2014 20:58 Pharaphobia wrote:
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On July 08 2014 08:00 ProTech wrote:
On July 08 2014 07:58 Wombat_NI wrote:
Protech while I sympathise, is this really the thread?

Hope this event runs smoothly, good initiative. Sick to death of people moaning about Destiny all the time, so fucking pious. This isn't to say you can't dislike his casting or stream, more people going out of their way to say they won't support anything associated with him/call him a horrible person etc.



Sure this is the thread. After all, you can see the different opinions about this streamer in particular that directly relates to my situation.


I'm sorry for this but so far you don't even deserve to be on front page of twitch. I can name 10 other streamers who could be there and it would be much more for them. You sir were just lucky and since you realized it your stream turned down to quality level "cant say the game name but everyone knows" so please stop being jealous about Destinys succes and his contribute to this community stop with stream, mby even uninstall obs and starcraft and fix your real life problems !

User was warned for this post

User was warned for this post

On July 18 2014 20:11 Pharaphobia wrote:
"Jumping on the circle HYP3 TR41N" nao !!! This looks so sick. Hope everything will run smoothly and as I was saying all the time StarCraft will never DIE! #alivegame

On July 24 2014 15:16 Pharaphobia wrote:
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On July 19 2014 07:50 vitruvia wrote:
On July 17 2014 20:58 Pharaphobia wrote:
On July 08 2014 08:00 ProTech wrote:
On July 08 2014 07:58 Wombat_NI wrote:
Protech while I sympathise, is this really the thread?

Hope this event runs smoothly, good initiative. Sick to death of people moaning about Destiny all the time, so fucking pious. This isn't to say you can't dislike his casting or stream, more people going out of their way to say they won't support anything associated with him/call him a horrible person etc.



Sure this is the thread. After all, you can see the different opinions about this streamer in particular that directly relates to my situation.


I'm sorry for this but so far you don't even deserve to be on front page of twitch. I can name 10 other streamers who could be there and it would be much more for them. You sir were just lucky and since you realized it your stream turned down to quality level "cant say the game name but everyone knows" so please stop being jealous about Destinys succes and his contribute to this community stop with stream, mby even uninstall obs and starcraft and fix your real life problems !

User was warned for this post

User was warned for this post

why don't we let protech start his own 4k tournament with crowdfunding, then feature it on the tournament section :D?
if he does i'll chip in 200, and will deliver with proof..


More realistic scenario would be that he would withdraw the money and pass away forever ! So hf with throwing 200 bucks :D

On September 26 2014 21:23 Pharaphobia wrote:
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On September 26 2014 19:41 Probemicro wrote:
On September 26 2014 19:33 HyralGambit wrote:
On September 26 2014 19:09 Pharaphobia wrote:
Regarding to Stratos translation these rumor is just a rumor so this post is not valid at all (:! After those years of SC2 I think nobody can just switch NOW and practice to compete in that 83k whatever league, it just wont happen otherwise that guy would become true RTS gosu.


Like that Protoss nobody Bisu who quit SC2 after all those years in SKT1 back in September 2013, practiced out of him mind, and won the Sonic Starleague 9 just 6 months after switching back to Brood War.

TOTALLY DID NOT HAPPEN EARLIER THIS YEAR

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relax the guy you replied to was probably not even born when BW was released.


Now u just proved that even in old community like BW there are always will be ppl acting same like in league or cs communities but fyi i was born 92 so chill out ... He was TOP SK T1 Zerg for a long time with SPL GSL etc. going on... and I hope some teacher told you in school (if u went to any) that day has 24 hours.. so not even top level players dont have time to play 2 games at the same time..... But thx for showing me the real face of bw community


vs.

Posts of "PharaphobiaSC2":
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On December 04 2014 20:36 PharaphobiaSC2 wrote:
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On December 04 2014 17:28 tokinho wrote:
To rebalance- Give the game a tribunal for the hundreds of thousands of hackers. Revamp warp gate, remove swarm hosts, change the properties of widow mine to dive like vulture mines, remove multiple creep tumour spawns, increase queen speed off creep, decrease scan costs, bring back scourge, decrease collossus range, increase bunker build time, decrease spore damage to bio, decrease warp prism health, increase overloard speeds, split air and ground mech attack upgrades, give zerg tier 3 ability to get 220 supply, give terran a an early game super anti-air unit, increase the food supply for ravens, decrease the gas cost for ghosts, make snipe a ghost upgrade, and for the love of god REMOVE XEL NAGA CAVERNS FROM MAP POOL FOR ALL TIME.


None of these changes are relevant except tribunal for hackers

220 supply and multi creep support was the funniest ones #bronzebalance !

On December 05 2014 16:01 PharaphobiaSC2 wrote:
I don't know whats more sad BW folks hoping for :revive" when bw is doing fine as causal game on afreeca with decent viewership and running tournaments or ppl complaining about 3 letters about project which they don't even work on do some work for it and than you can be complaing about the game. OGN wont provide SC2 content, just remeber in the past GOM exp vs spotv...

Just let them provide StarCraft Brood War casual league and SC2 cups on two different things and dont look on the name bot on quality of the event. I almost feel like SC BW and SC2 community need every piece of mistake detaile or error and scale it 1000000000000000000x more than it should be, just sad...
On December 10 2014 23:21 PharaphobiaSC2 wrote:
If you guys dont mind I have personal 10 TB Cloud server at my homeoffice. I could start slowly downloading VODs and replicate then to Ms servers so they will stay alive simply forever (until I die)

On December 12 2014 17:12 PharaphobiaSC2 wrote:
It's great idea, however you need to consider fact that BW had ranks, SC2 have leagues.. I watch sh*t ton of Brood War and everytime I see no wLauncher report, player just leave the game.. Are you sure ppl will be leaving games like that ?

On December 15 2014 17:54 PharaphobiaSC2 wrote:
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On December 15 2014 17:42 PharaphobiaSC2 wrote:
You think he will read it? I think he has **** ton of spam for F A N B O I S )

I did it *nervous look* hope he will notice it )!


The repeated use of "" at the end of a line, sometimes followed by punctuation, is statistically significant given the low post count of both "Pharaphobia" and the real "PharaphobiaSC2". Because this is something that can only be replicated through mutual online experience, this is a major clue to finding out who has been tarnishing your name. It has to be someone who has seen you post extensively before the aforementioned months, with intent that reaches back into late 2013. That should limit the list of people this fake "Pharaphobia" could be down to a handful, right? Your input is necessary for further investigation at this point. Please feel free to PM me.

3. They have assimilated your interests and your questions, misled your viewerbase. Nothing is safe.
TeamLiquid user "Pharaphobia" set their website to "twitch.tv/Pharaphobia" which contains a lot of information, likely about you. If this is your Twitch channel, then they are simply using it as a method of authenticating their disguise. If that personal information is about you, that means that they know too much about you. In fact, the name is connected to you on multiple sites. Here is a brief list that Google provided, some of them containing the same personal information that can be found on the Twitch stream:

http://e-sports.gg/streams/pharaphobia
https://osu.ppy.sh/u/1673645
http://www.anook.com/pharaphobia
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4676728/1/Pharaphobia/
http://steamcommunity.com/id/pharaphobia92/
http://www.playzone.cz/uzivatel/pharaphobia

If any of these are NOT profiles you have created, please contact the hosting site immediately!!! Identity theft only gets easier with mass proliferation such as this. The age on at least the last one matches the one on Twitch, which corresponds to the Blizzard account "Pharaphobia" for SC2, and it has a photo of you(?). If I were you, and that photo was indeed of me, I would be very scared. However, it brings us just 1 step closer to finding out who this faker is. They have access to your photos. It must be someone you have shared the photos with.

By the way, "Pharaphobia" is not a real word. According to Google, there is no definition for this word. I'm injecting this here to let you know that there is no mistaking that any imitation is purely intentional - there is such a slim chance that two separate people could come up with the same fake phobia. I am guessing you were already aware of this, as you have many haters who are out to get you, but I just wanted to eliminate any doubt you may have still had.

Anyway, my final piece of evidence is their mimicry of your interests. Look at your posting history:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=&t=c&f=-1&u=PharaphobiaSC2&gb=date

vs.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=&t=c&f=-1&u=Pharaphobia&gb=date

Do you notice anything suspicious? You are a Destiny follower - posting on subjects pertaining to him. Likewise, Paraphobia posted about Destiny multiple times as well. I know that this is not a large clue, as Destiny surely has many followers, but this simply adds another constraint to the list of possible thieves. Likewise, you are both (or at least they can pretend to be) into SC2 AND BW. Which, again, does not diminish the list greatly, but I'm sure it helps.

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Summary

Review all of this information carefully and without prejudice. Even someone as close as a brother or parental figure might be responsible for this mischief. Best of luck to you, and may your unique name never be sullied by pretenders and thieves!

Sources:
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=PharaphobiaSC2
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=&t=c&f=-1&u=PharaphobiaSC2&gb=date
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Pharaphobia
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=&t=c&f=-1&u=Pharaphobia&gb=date
http://www.twitch.tv/pharaphobia
http://www.twitch.tv/pharaphobia/profile/past_broadcasts
http://e-sports.gg/streams/pharaphobia
https://osu.ppy.sh/u/1673645
http://www.anook.com/pharaphobia
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4676728/1/Pharaphobia/
http://steamcommunity.com/id/pharaphobia92/
http://www.playzone.cz/uzivatel/pharaphobia
https://www.google.com/search?q=pharaphovia definition&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#safe=off&q=pharaphobia definition&nfpr=1

"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-17 10:27:14
December 17 2014 10:24 GMT
#25
LOL

but really? do you actually took all that time to make and research such a detailed post for a certain poster (one that has a history of flaming BW/others and putting up excuses like "haters")? '

you could have used the effort to do a nice writeup/interview on a bw personality instead...
GeckoXp
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Germany2016 Posts
December 17 2014 10:27 GMT
#26
wtf how bored are you. next time someone calls me no-lifer, i'll link this.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10126 Posts
December 17 2014 10:32 GMT
#27
Identity theft is not a joke, guys. You'd be thanking me if it was your name being tarnished by an impostor.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4120 Posts
December 17 2014 10:33 GMT
#28
hahaha this is awesome
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
December 17 2014 10:50 GMT
#29
bw general is a psych ward
ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
December 17 2014 11:02 GMT
#30
I think Jealous has info on every TL user, I guess he works in NSA.
Bisu,Best,Stork,Jangbi and Flash, Fantasy, Leta, Light and Jaedong, Hydra, Zero, Soulkey assemble in ACE now!
DarkNetHunter
Profile Joined October 2012
1224 Posts
December 17 2014 11:12 GMT
#31
Legendary post.

Learn from the mistakes of others. You can't live long enough to make them all yourself.
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-17 14:04:33
December 17 2014 11:37 GMT
#32
Hahaha, awesome.
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6555 Posts
December 17 2014 11:50 GMT
#33
On December 17 2014 19:32 Jealous wrote:
Identity theft is not a joke, guys. You'd be thanking me if it was your name being tarnished by an impostor.

you re a maniac LOOOL
PharaphobiaSC2
Profile Joined November 2014
Czech Republic85 Posts
December 18 2014 06:12 GMT
#34
So it looks like no tournament since it turned into this
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
December 18 2014 06:18 GMT
#35
Thank you Jealous for keeping it real for us
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
PharaphobiaSC2
Profile Joined November 2014
Czech Republic85 Posts
December 18 2014 06:20 GMT
#36
On December 17 2014 20:50 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
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On December 17 2014 19:32 Jealous wrote:
Identity theft is not a joke, guys. You'd be thanking me if it was your name being tarnished by an impostor.

you re a maniac LOOOL


I bet that it was not hard for him since name is unique

http://e-sports.gg/streams/pharaphobia - O.O I don't remeber i made an account here
https://osu.ppy.sh/u/1673645 - great osu times... you can't change nicnkname
http://www.anook.com/pharaphobia - created by me
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4676728/1/Pharaphobia/ My account for casting sc2 o.o/
http://steamcommunity.com/id/pharaphobia92/ yeah good old PoE
http://www.playzone.cz/uzivatel/pharaphobia lol i'm suprised you digged this.. again cannot change nickname unless admin approves it !
chrisolo
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2606 Posts
December 18 2014 07:24 GMT
#37
WAT ZE FUK

Babo why do you have time for this? lol. I didnt even have the time to read your post...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ - aka cReAtiVee
PharaphobiaSC3
Profile Joined December 2014
Czech Republic1 Post
December 18 2014 17:03 GMT
#38
On December 18 2014 15:12 PharaphobiaSC2 wrote:
So it looks like no tournament since it turned into this

So because you was caught being liar and feel ashamed you want to not do anything for community ?

People who just comes and go is normal but you been showing interest in running league for long time and one post stop you Maybe it is better you not run tournament if you have this mind

User was banned for this post.
http://www.twitch.tv/pharaphobia
PharaphobiaSC2
Profile Joined November 2014
Czech Republic85 Posts
December 18 2014 17:34 GMT
#39
I will gladly run this league if we continue to talk about league.. and not the history of my name
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6555 Posts
December 18 2014 17:38 GMT
#40
On December 19 2014 02:34 PharaphobiaSC2 wrote:
I will gladly run this league if we continue to talk about league.. and not the history of my name

this is a wrong direction,now people will talk even more ^^
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