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The land of freedom23126 Posts
On March 14 2014 04:06 Sub40APM wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2014 01:57 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On March 14 2014 01:56 Gorsameth wrote:On March 14 2014 01:53 PaleMan wrote:On March 14 2014 01:49 m4ini wrote:On March 14 2014 01:46 PaleMan wrote:On March 14 2014 01:45 Acertos wrote:On March 14 2014 01:42 PaleMan wrote:On March 14 2014 01:31 m4ini wrote:On March 14 2014 01:29 PaleMan wrote:
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its called dictatorship when you live under Big Brothers hand
wanna tell me smthing about democracy again? Yeah, democracy in germany doesn't work, we didn't get to vote if a foreign country may spy on us, totally a dictatorship. i've also heard most of german gold is stored in USA and some time ago Germany asked "what about my gold, USA" could you remind me what happened? let me sum it up: - you have foreign armed troops in you territory - all your country negotiations are known to 3rd party (which has 50k armed troops on you territory) - your country gold is stored in anoter country (which has 50k armed troops on you territory and knows everything you think) - your country does everything another country asks this is democracy you say - i say you are hostage Sorry but you are not making any sense anymore, Idk where you got your quote about germany's gold. http://www.globalresearch.ca/u-s-dollar-collapse-where-is-germanys-gold/5321894 This actually contradicts your "puppet-statement". If you think hard, you may find out why. I'm not full of hopes though - let's just get back to ukraine. puppet tries to break free, and i wish it best luck back on topic Ukraine will suffer for years now, cause west ukrainians hate east ukrainians and vice versa there will be blood but not in Crimea, cause Russia will protect it Made all the more Ironic by there not being any violence between east and west, or even hatred, before the Russian invasion. Ooph dude, you never was on Ukranian football stadiums, i guess. To say that there wasn't any violence between East and West :D There is more violence between Dnepro and Kharkiv supporters than any East vs. West violence.
Because Dnipro's fans are probably the most hardcore beasts in Ukraine afaik.
But as my friends say, visits to Lviv are hardcore as well :D
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On March 14 2014 03:55 Banaora wrote:
Putin gave a press conference not long ago where he said, when you do something like in Crimea you think it through more than once. He is not an idiot. And imo he gets away with what he does in Crimea. What can happen anyway? Sanctions? -> They also will hurt Europe (Russia might try to sell its gas to China in the future. I heard China is interested.) NATO troops in west Ukraine? -> Send Russian troops into east Ukraine. -> West gets agricultural area, Russia gets Industrial one gg. And what about the money to build up Ukraine? This thing is a huge clusterfuck and all parties have to talk with each other about the future.
There never will be an attack of Russia on NATO members because they know this would start the third world war.
some people in here believe it anyway and picture him like a psychopath that just wants blood.
anway to this ongoing discussion: history is written by the victors.
and here i thought this was common sense.
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On March 14 2014 04:26 fleeze wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2014 03:55 Banaora wrote:
Putin gave a press conference not long ago where he said, when you do something like in Crimea you think it through more than once. He is not an idiot. And imo he gets away with what he does in Crimea. What can happen anyway? Sanctions? -> They also will hurt Europe (Russia might try to sell its gas to China in the future. I heard China is interested.) NATO troops in west Ukraine? -> Send Russian troops into east Ukraine. -> West gets agricultural area, Russia gets Industrial one gg. And what about the money to build up Ukraine? This thing is a huge clusterfuck and all parties have to talk with each other about the future.
There never will be an attack of Russia on NATO members because they know this would start the third world war. some people in here believe it anyway and picture him like a psychopath that just wants blood. anway to this ongoing discussion: history is written by the victors. and here i thought this was common sense.
Meaningless catch-phrase. Every country teaches history in a way that sheds the best light on itself, whether they won or lost.
Germany is the exception I guess.
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And Britain. The guilt over imperialism is quite palpable as taught in school rooms. But most countries don't teach a total untruth over their own history. To turn a genocide around is quite unusual to say the least.
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
There is a rumour btw that Yatsenyuk used whole golden stock of Ukraine and legendary Scythean gold to give it to US as guarantee for IMF credit.
Estimated price of this stock and Scythean gold and jewellery = ~20 billions $.
I guess, nothing about it will be in Western media, even if it's true.
But considering fact that Ukraine has almost nothing to guarantee credit, uh.
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On March 14 2014 04:54 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
There is a rumour btw that Yatsenyuk used whole golden stock of Ukraine and legendary Scythean gold to give it to US as guarantee for IMF credit.
Estimated price of this stock and Scythean gold and jewellery = ~20 billions $.
I guess, nothing about it will be in Western media, even if it's true.
But considering fact that Ukraine has almost nothing to guarantee credit, uh.
Is this like the rumor that Tatars are sharpening their knives for Russians in Crimea?
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Zurich15361 Posts
On March 14 2014 04:54 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
There is a rumour btw that Yatsenyuk used whole golden stock of Ukraine and legendary Scythean gold to give it to US as guarantee for IMF credit.
Estimated price of this stock and Scythean gold and jewellery = ~20 billions $.
I guess, nothing about it will be in Western media, even if it's true.
But considering fact that Ukraine has almost nothing to guarantee credit, uh.
I definitely read an (unconfirmed) report that Ukraine gold was moved out of the country. But I believe so far that story is entirely speculative.
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I'm reading an article from the Dutch press bureau stating that the Russian government has blocked several independent websites such as kasparov.ru an ej.ru. Can't find it in the international press though, which is puzzling.
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On March 14 2014 04:59 AwfuL_ wrote:
I'm reading an article from the Dutch press bureau stating that the Russian government has blocked several independent websites such as kasparov.ru an ej.ru. Can't find it in the international press though, which is puzzling.
Like this? http://lenta.ru/news/2014/03/13/nomoremedia/
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On March 14 2014 04:20 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2014 04:06 Sub40APM wrote:On March 14 2014 01:57 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On March 14 2014 01:56 Gorsameth wrote:On March 14 2014 01:53 PaleMan wrote:On March 14 2014 01:49 m4ini wrote:On March 14 2014 01:46 PaleMan wrote:On March 14 2014 01:45 Acertos wrote:On March 14 2014 01:42 PaleMan wrote:On March 14 2014 01:31 m4ini wrote:
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Yeah, democracy in germany doesn't work, we didn't get to vote if a foreign country may spy on us, totally a dictatorship. i've also heard most of german gold is stored in USA and some time ago Germany asked "what about my gold, USA" could you remind me what happened? let me sum it up: - you have foreign armed troops in you territory - all your country negotiations are known to 3rd party (which has 50k armed troops on you territory) - your country gold is stored in anoter country (which has 50k armed troops on you territory and knows everything you think) - your country does everything another country asks this is democracy you say - i say you are hostage Sorry but you are not making any sense anymore, Idk where you got your quote about germany's gold. http://www.globalresearch.ca/u-s-dollar-collapse-where-is-germanys-gold/5321894 This actually contradicts your "puppet-statement". If you think hard, you may find out why. I'm not full of hopes though - let's just get back to ukraine. puppet tries to break free, and i wish it best luck back on topic Ukraine will suffer for years now, cause west ukrainians hate east ukrainians and vice versa there will be blood but not in Crimea, cause Russia will protect it Made all the more Ironic by there not being any violence between east and west, or even hatred, before the Russian invasion. Ooph dude, you never was on Ukranian football stadiums, i guess. To say that there wasn't any violence between East and West :D There is more violence between Dnepro and Kharkiv supporters than any East vs. West violence. Because Dnipro's fans are probably the most hardcore beasts in Ukraine afaik. But as my friends say, visits to Lviv are hardcore as well :D
Metalist's fans are the most hardcore.
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
On March 14 2014 04:57 zatic wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2014 04:54 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
There is a rumour btw that Yatsenyuk used whole golden stock of Ukraine and legendary Scythean gold to give it to US as guarantee for IMF credit.
Estimated price of this stock and Scythean gold and jewellery = ~20 billions $.
I guess, nothing about it will be in Western media, even if it's true.
But considering fact that Ukraine has almost nothing to guarantee credit, uh.
I definitely read an (unconfirmed) report that Ukraine gold was moved out of the country. But I believe so far that story is entirely speculative.
That's some Amber Room flashbacks tbh.
And considering amount of useless currency which you can't convert, US definitely happy to get 20 billions of pure gold especially with such national debt.
On March 14 2014 05:02 Cheerio wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2014 04:20 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On March 14 2014 04:06 Sub40APM wrote:On March 14 2014 01:57 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On March 14 2014 01:56 Gorsameth wrote:On March 14 2014 01:53 PaleMan wrote:On March 14 2014 01:49 m4ini wrote:On March 14 2014 01:46 PaleMan wrote:On March 14 2014 01:45 Acertos wrote:On March 14 2014 01:42 PaleMan wrote:
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i've also heard most of german gold is stored in USA
and some time ago Germany asked "what about my gold, USA"
could you remind me what happened?
let me sum it up:
- you have foreign armed troops in you territory
- all your country negotiations are known to 3rd party (which has 50k armed troops on you territory)
- your country gold is stored in anoter country (which has 50k armed troops on you territory and knows everything you think)
- your country does everything another country asks
this is democracy you say - i say you are hostage Sorry but you are not making any sense anymore, Idk where you got your quote about germany's gold. http://www.globalresearch.ca/u-s-dollar-collapse-where-is-germanys-gold/5321894 This actually contradicts your "puppet-statement". If you think hard, you may find out why. I'm not full of hopes though - let's just get back to ukraine. puppet tries to break free, and i wish it best luck back on topic Ukraine will suffer for years now, cause west ukrainians hate east ukrainians and vice versa there will be blood but not in Crimea, cause Russia will protect it Made all the more Ironic by there not being any violence between east and west, or even hatred, before the Russian invasion. Ooph dude, you never was on Ukranian football stadiums, i guess. To say that there wasn't any violence between East and West :D There is more violence between Dnepro and Kharkiv supporters than any East vs. West violence. Because Dnipro's fans are probably the most hardcore beasts in Ukraine afaik. But as my friends say, visits to Lviv are hardcore as well :D Metalist's fans are the most hardcore.
But Metallist will probably die next season =/.
On March 14 2014 04:59 AwfuL_ wrote:
I'm reading an article from the Dutch press bureau stating that the Russian government has blocked several independent websites such as kasparov.ru an ej.ru. Can't find it in the international press though, which is puzzling.
Ye, they did it. But we can still watch it if some hints are getting used :D
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On March 14 2014 04:59 AwfuL_ wrote:
I'm reading an article from the Dutch press bureau stating that the Russian government has blocked several independent websites such as kasparov.ru an ej.ru. Can't find it in the international press though, which is puzzling.
I saw it somewhere in the press earlier today. Also that the Russians were moving military trucks into Crimea with Ukrainian plates, nice picture to go along with it.
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On March 14 2014 05:02 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2014 04:57 zatic wrote:On March 14 2014 04:54 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
There is a rumour btw that Yatsenyuk used whole golden stock of Ukraine and legendary Scythean gold to give it to US as guarantee for IMF credit.
Estimated price of this stock and Scythean gold and jewellery = ~20 billions $.
I guess, nothing about it will be in Western media, even if it's true.
But considering fact that Ukraine has almost nothing to guarantee credit, uh.
I definitely read an (unconfirmed) report that Ukraine gold was moved out of the country. But I believe so far that story is entirely speculative. That's some Amber Room flashbacks tbh. And considering amount of useless currency which you can't convert, US definitely happy to get 20 billions of pure gold especially with such national debt.
huh? 20 billion wouldnt pay a single percent of their debt...if if they wanted real money they should use their EU trained sniper nazis to overthrow great and glorious Putin and get all that oil...
User was temp banned for this post.
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On March 14 2014 04:54 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
There is a rumour btw that Yatsenyuk used whole golden stock of Ukraine and legendary Scythean gold to give it to US as guarantee for IMF credit.
Estimated price of this stock and Scythean gold and jewellery = ~20 billions $.
I guess, nothing about it will be in Western media, even if it's true.
But considering fact that Ukraine has almost nothing to guarantee credit, uh.
Please explain to me how $20 billions worth of "legendary Scythean gold" and jewellery survived 23 years of Ukrainian corruption?
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
On March 14 2014 05:07 Cheerio wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2014 04:54 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
There is a rumour btw that Yatsenyuk used whole golden stock of Ukraine and legendary Scythean gold to give it to US as guarantee for IMF credit.
Estimated price of this stock and Scythean gold and jewellery = ~20 billions $.
I guess, nothing about it will be in Western media, even if it's true.
But considering fact that Ukraine has almost nothing to guarantee credit, uh.
Please explain to me how $20 billions worth of "legendary Scythean gold" and jewellery survived 23 years of Ukrainian corruption?
Why do you need to use gold when you have enough money to steal from people? (:
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On March 14 2014 04:57 zatic wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2014 04:54 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
There is a rumour btw that Yatsenyuk used whole golden stock of Ukraine and legendary Scythean gold to give it to US as guarantee for IMF credit.
Estimated price of this stock and Scythean gold and jewellery = ~20 billions $.
I guess, nothing about it will be in Western media, even if it's true.
But considering fact that Ukraine has almost nothing to guarantee credit, uh.
I definitely read an (unconfirmed) report that Ukraine gold was moved out of the country. But I believe so far that story is entirely speculative.
Het grootste deel van het Nederlandse goud bevindt zich in het buitenland. In de kelders van De Nederlandsche Bank in Amsterdam ligt 67 ton. Dat is nog geen 11 procent van de totale Nederlandse goudreserve van ruim 600 ton. De rest wordt bewaard bij de Federal Reserve in New York, de Bank of England en de Bank of Canada in Ottawa.
Gold moving to the US doesn't really mean anything anyway. De Nederlandsche Bank (Dutch central bank) only has 11% of its gold reserves in The Netherlands with the rest in The US and Canada.
Dutch source
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On March 14 2014 05:12 RvB wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2014 04:57 zatic wrote:On March 14 2014 04:54 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
There is a rumour btw that Yatsenyuk used whole golden stock of Ukraine and legendary Scythean gold to give it to US as guarantee for IMF credit.
Estimated price of this stock and Scythean gold and jewellery = ~20 billions $.
I guess, nothing about it will be in Western media, even if it's true.
But considering fact that Ukraine has almost nothing to guarantee credit, uh.
I definitely read an (unconfirmed) report that Ukraine gold was moved out of the country. But I believe so far that story is entirely speculative. Show nested quote +Het grootste deel van het Nederlandse goud bevindt zich in het buitenland. In de kelders van De Nederlandsche Bank in Amsterdam ligt 67 ton. Dat is nog geen 11 procent van de totale Nederlandse goudreserve van ruim 600 ton. De rest wordt bewaard bij de Federal Reserve in New York, de Bank of England en de Bank of Canada in Ottawa.
Gold moving to the US doesn't really mean anything anyway. De Nederlandsche Bank (Dutch central bank) only has 11% of its gold reserves in The Netherlands with the rest in The US and Canada. Dutch source
which proves you are America's puppets -- Paleman.
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