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Light
god damn that's so sad. he was one of the great BW players: such a reliable PL player for MBC all those years. I remember the days when Flash and Light stomped every zerg alive....
Flying... I will miss him too. Crazy style of play.
I hope they will stream BW.
On September 17 2013 18:32 Lorch wrote:
Why so sad about flying? He was really awesome in bw but in star 2 his builds were some of the wierdest shit I have ever seen.
Really sad about light though, such a talanted terran T.T
@ETisME: There are more pro gamers right now than there have ever been for bw in korea. And trust me there are still plenty of kids capable of winning code s that you have never heard off.
No way. These rosters were stacked in BW... and all the teams had b-teams that played in another league.
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On September 17 2013 19:05 thezanursic wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2013 18:49 XsebT wrote:On September 17 2013 18:30 liberate71 wrote:On September 17 2013 17:44 FoShao wrote:It just so happens that now is the time where old BW pros are getting to that age where military service is daunting. still sad to see them go though  Exactly, everyone is quick to blame it on SC2 not being BW though. Flash will retire and go to military service and people will lose their shit. This is of course just speculation, but I really doubt these retirements had happened already if kespa and OGN hadn't moved over to sc2. On the other hand, bw was already on a slow decline in S Korea pre sc2 (which is only natural) - at least as I see it. Maybe, just maybe, this is a chance to...reboot the system. The only thing that really needs to happen, is to get bw on television again - thus attract sponsorships. These players going back to bw and streaming it (plus earning money from it) is a clear reflection of two things. 1. The players passion is BW (This is not to say anything bad about sc2, but it is just not what they grew up with and became good at. As with any sport, for you to master it, the urge to become the best, there must be a specific passion towards exactly what you're doing to keep going. It's just not given, that they should experience this twice in their life - after all, sc2 is vastly different from bw). 2. There is still a drive from the public for them to keep playing (shown through donations). Once they switched there was no going back.
We'll just have to see about that. No way of telling quite yet.
But one thing is for sure: Brood War is not just like any other game. Different laws of ESPORT nature applies to Brood War. ^^
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On September 17 2013 18:32 Lorch wrote:
Why so sad about flying? He was really awesome in bw but in star 2 his builds were some of the wierdest shit I have ever seen.
Really sad about light though, such a talanted terran T.T
@ETisME: There are more pro gamers right now than there have ever been for bw in korea. And trust me there are still plenty of kids capable of winning code s that you have never heard off.
You have no idea what you are talking about...
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On September 17 2013 19:14 XsebT wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2013 19:05 thezanursic wrote:On September 17 2013 18:49 XsebT wrote:On September 17 2013 18:30 liberate71 wrote:On September 17 2013 17:44 FoShao wrote:It just so happens that now is the time where old BW pros are getting to that age where military service is daunting. still sad to see them go though Exactly, everyone is quick to blame it on SC2 not being BW though. Flash will retire and go to military service and people will lose their shit. This is of course just speculation, but I really doubt these retirements had happened already if kespa and OGN hadn't moved over to sc2. On the other hand, bw was already on a slow decline in S Korea pre sc2 (which is only natural) - at least as I see it. Maybe, just maybe, this is a chance to...reboot the system. The only thing that really needs to happen, is to get bw on television again - thus attract sponsorships. These players going back to bw and streaming it (plus earning money from it) is a clear reflection of two things. 1. The players passion is BW (This is not to say anything bad about sc2, but it is just not what they grew up with and became good at. As with any sport, for you to master it, the urge to become the best, there must be a specific passion towards exactly what you're doing to keep going. It's just not given, that they should experience this twice in their life - after all, sc2 is vastly different from bw). 2. There is still a drive from the public for them to keep playing (shown through donations). Once they switched there was no going back. We'll just have to see about that. No way of telling quite yet. But one thing is for sure: Brood War is not just like any other game. Different laws of ESPORT nature applies to Brood War. ^^
And would BW have stand a chance against the LoL hype? SC2 kinda couldn't but could an old game like BW do it? I doubt it, even though it was a great game.
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On September 17 2013 19:10 Elroi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2013 18:32 Lorch wrote:
Why so sad about flying? He was really awesome in bw but in star 2 his builds were some of the wierdest shit I have ever seen.
Really sad about light though, such a talanted terran T.T
@ETisME: There are more pro gamers right now than there have ever been for bw in korea. And trust me there are still plenty of kids capable of winning code s that you have never heard off. No way. These rosters were stacked in BW... and all the teams had b-teams that played in another league.
+ a billion skilled amateurs and semi-pros.
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So many retirements lately. =\
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Light said he refused the invitation from SOSPA(not mean he would not stream bw of course), and he would not transform to LoL. He will focus on learning something useful before join the military service.
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Light my Battle Royal King... will never forget that match. Wish them best of luck for the future.
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Fucking sc2 is dying posts make me cringe. It is inevitable for a lot of the kespa guys to retire since they tend to be pretty old bw veterans. What did you expect, Flash playing sc2 when he's 30 years old? People grow up.
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On September 17 2013 16:51 myminerals wrote:
good bye Light, the second terran after Flash who could play with Jaedong on par.
Yes, Light had sick TvZ, but you seem to be forgetting about ForGG (and FBH).
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On September 17 2013 19:20 bluQ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2013 19:14 XsebT wrote:On September 17 2013 19:05 thezanursic wrote:On September 17 2013 18:49 XsebT wrote:On September 17 2013 18:30 liberate71 wrote:On September 17 2013 17:44 FoShao wrote:It just so happens that now is the time where old BW pros are getting to that age where military service is daunting. still sad to see them go though Exactly, everyone is quick to blame it on SC2 not being BW though. Flash will retire and go to military service and people will lose their shit. This is of course just speculation, but I really doubt these retirements had happened already if kespa and OGN hadn't moved over to sc2. On the other hand, bw was already on a slow decline in S Korea pre sc2 (which is only natural) - at least as I see it. Maybe, just maybe, this is a chance to...reboot the system. The only thing that really needs to happen, is to get bw on television again - thus attract sponsorships. These players going back to bw and streaming it (plus earning money from it) is a clear reflection of two things. 1. The players passion is BW (This is not to say anything bad about sc2, but it is just not what they grew up with and became good at. As with any sport, for you to master it, the urge to become the best, there must be a specific passion towards exactly what you're doing to keep going. It's just not given, that they should experience this twice in their life - after all, sc2 is vastly different from bw). 2. There is still a drive from the public for them to keep playing (shown through donations). Once they switched there was no going back. why wouldnt it? esports will always need a rts, a 1v1 game different from moba games which are team based. We'll just have to see about that. No way of telling quite yet. But one thing is for sure: Brood War is not just like any other game. Different laws of ESPORT nature applies to Brood War. ^^ And would BW have stand a chance against the LoL hype? SC2 kinda couldn't but could an old game like BW do it? I doubt it, even though it was a great game.
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On September 17 2013 20:52 reminisce12 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2013 19:20 bluQ wrote:On September 17 2013 19:14 XsebT wrote:On September 17 2013 19:05 thezanursic wrote:On September 17 2013 18:49 XsebT wrote:On September 17 2013 18:30 liberate71 wrote:On September 17 2013 17:44 FoShao wrote:It just so happens that now is the time where old BW pros are getting to that age where military service is daunting. still sad to see them go though Exactly, everyone is quick to blame it on SC2 not being BW though. Flash will retire and go to military service and people will lose their shit. This is of course just speculation, but I really doubt these retirements had happened already if kespa and OGN hadn't moved over to sc2. On the other hand, bw was already on a slow decline in S Korea pre sc2 (which is only natural) - at least as I see it. Maybe, just maybe, this is a chance to...reboot the system. The only thing that really needs to happen, is to get bw on television again - thus attract sponsorships. These players going back to bw and streaming it (plus earning money from it) is a clear reflection of two things. 1. The players passion is BW (This is not to say anything bad about sc2, but it is just not what they grew up with and became good at. As with any sport, for you to master it, the urge to become the best, there must be a specific passion towards exactly what you're doing to keep going. It's just not given, that they should experience this twice in their life - after all, sc2 is vastly different from bw). 2. There is still a drive from the public for them to keep playing (shown through donations). Once they switched there was no going back. We'll just have to see about that. No way of telling quite yet. But one thing is for sure: Brood War is not just like any other game. Different laws of ESPORT nature applies to Brood War. ^^ And would BW have stand a chance against the LoL hype? SC2 kinda couldn't but could an old game like BW do it? I doubt it, even though it was a great game.
why wouldnt it? esports will always need a rts, a 1v1 game different from moba games which are team based.
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On September 17 2013 20:33 herMan wrote:
Fucking sc2 is dying posts make me cringe. It is inevitable for a lot of the kespa guys to retire since they tend to be pretty old bw veterans. What did you expect, Flash playing sc2 when he's 30 years old? People grow up.
except these pplz are not 30, especially someone as young as flying.
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its obvious that these players saw bisu's retirement and realised that if a god like bisu has chosen to retire, they have no chance
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shit, flying was decent in SC2 (Then again JangBi...). I can understand why Light would retire though, why go from being a beast in BW TvZ to playing a game you have no passion for?
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I am wondering if they wanted quit earlier but didnt do because of (respect to) proleague was running or the player aren't/weren't allowed to quit (contract) during the proleague.
I cant think they just realize this/last week "ok no sc2 anymore".
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Back to BW 
good choice !
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On September 17 2013 20:55 reminisce12 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2013 20:33 herMan wrote:
Fucking sc2 is dying posts make me cringe. It is inevitable for a lot of the kespa guys to retire since they tend to be pretty old bw veterans. What did you expect, Flash playing sc2 when he's 30 years old? People grow up. except these pplz are not 30, especially someone as young as flying.
Well, in State of Play even Jaedong seemed to be getting comments from his family about already being old for progaming or something and his age was also highlighted at that event for Kespa players in the film. I think there may be some age related pressure based on that.
I guess the elephants weren't as dominant as expected in the SC2 scene and now they're downsizing en masse. We're left guessing at the reasons for these players' retirements but my take would be that it's a little bit of everything: age, less interest in the game, perceived difficulty of making it in SC2, forced choice between retiring or starting to look for a non-Kespa team, Starcraft in general no longer being in the limelight in Korea....
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Lights retirement is really sad, not cuz of his sc2 gaming but when i think of light i always remember his tvz from 2010 and his tvz vs jd in the msl was fun to watch live. light fighting ~~
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