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Crais
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2136 Posts
September 17 2013 13:34 GMT
#161
Light When will it end....
RIP MBC Game Hero
Krogan
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden375 Posts
September 17 2013 13:37 GMT
#162
The korean sc2 scene has been suffering from massive oversaturation of players for long time, not much surprise that the old bw pro's that failed in sc2 would be retiring at the end of the season.
MythZero
Profile Joined February 2011
Korea (South)102 Posts
September 17 2013 13:38 GMT
#163
#deadgame
Crisium
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1618 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-17 13:43:33
September 17 2013 13:40 GMT
#164
I remember Light for having nearly perfect TvZ in the final couple years of BW, as well as for his success in Winner's League (he always seemed to have 3 or All Kills).

I remember Flying mostly for the Jaedong game. Not that Flying did anything special, but who can ever forget THAT game?



Mainly this:

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Broodwar and Stork forever! List of BW players with most Ro16, Ro8: http://tinyurl.com/BWRo16-Ro8
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
September 17 2013 13:42 GMT
#165
Best of luck Light,Flying!!!And to all the people who are panicking,you guys need to chill out...yeah its sad Bisu retired and now Light & Flying to,but the scene is not dying just give a chance to up & comers,there's Pigbaby,Mekia,Aria,Solar,Myungsik (a bunch of young badasses) and the list can go on...
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
SHOOG
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1639 Posts
September 17 2013 13:45 GMT
#166
Hate seeing players retire, but I would much rather them do what they think is best for themselves.
I enjoyed watching them both play and hope they happy future in whatever they decide to do.
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
September 17 2013 13:54 GMT
#167
Didn't Light say, once upon a time, in an interview that he wasn't interested in playing sc2 the slightest bit and would retire after BW ended?

Guys, people retire all the time in "sports." You can't play forever. It's no big deal.
"Science has so well established that the preborn baby in the womb is a living human being that most pro-choice activists have conceded the point. ..since the abortion proponents have lost the science argument, they are now advocating an existential one."
CrayonPopChoa
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Canada761 Posts
September 17 2013 14:04 GMT
#168
On September 17 2013 22:54 danl9rm wrote:
Didn't Light say, once upon a time, in an interview that he wasn't interested in playing sc2 the slightest bit and would retire after BW ended?

Guys, people retire all the time in "sports." You can't play forever. It's no big deal.


Except that so far the majority of the old BW guys that retired from SC2 went back to BW and are competing in amateur leagues and streaming online. They are not retiring from gaming, they are fed up with SC2 and going back to BW. Some have flat out said they dont enjoy sc2 like Jangbi, Sea.. some you can speculate its cause they arent as successful as they were in BW but at the end of the day they are leaving one game that has the money, all the funding, big sponsors, blizzard backing and giving all that up for BW.
BW4LIFE
Holdenintherye
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada1441 Posts
September 17 2013 14:04 GMT
#169
wtf...so sad to see so many retire at once
Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
September 17 2013 14:06 GMT
#170
Bye Flying. I always cheered for you and am sad to see you go but it is probably for the best.
"Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide" -Tastosis
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
September 17 2013 14:06 GMT
#171
Sad
Moderatorlickypiddy
Clbull
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1439 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-17 14:11:48
September 17 2013 14:11 GMT
#172
On September 17 2013 20:55 reminisce12 wrote:
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On September 17 2013 20:33 herMan wrote:
Fucking sc2 is dying posts make me cringe. It is inevitable for a lot of the kespa guys to retire since they tend to be pretty old bw veterans. What did you expect, Flash playing sc2 when he's 30 years old? People grow up.


except these pplz are not 30, especially someone as young as flying.

My suggestion to herMan. Don't go on /r/starcraftcirclejerk. You'll have an aneurysm.
riyanme
Profile Joined September 2010
Philippines940 Posts
September 17 2013 14:19 GMT
#173
they were send off flying...
bye bye...
hoping to see proleague with fresh faces...
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asdfOu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2089 Posts
September 17 2013 14:20 GMT
#174
OMFG NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
rip prime
Ettick
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States2434 Posts
September 17 2013 14:20 GMT
#175
What is up with all these retirements?
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-17 14:28:07
September 17 2013 14:21 GMT
#176
The switch to SC2 was like two years of their career though. If you were 22 initially, still a normal age for a progamer, then all of a sudden you become 24 before you're competitive again and at that point the military already is looming. I think if they don't have that much success in SC2 and they just want to wait out their time until they have a chance to do military, to move on with their life, that their best bet is to retire and stream BW in the mean time. It's probably fun for them, since they're not forced to play BW anymore (it's just for fun now) and there is a lot of enthusiasm for their streams and so on.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 17 2013 14:23 GMT
#177
On September 17 2013 23:20 Ettick wrote:
What is up with all these retirements?

Contracts ending, KeSPA making space for LoL stuff and whatnot.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-17 14:24:42
September 17 2013 14:24 GMT
#178
On September 17 2013 23:20 Ettick wrote:
What is up with all these retirements?

Large number of BW players making the switch to a new game and some of them deciding they want to go into military service, rather than continue with SC2. Think of it as a major sports team moving to a new city and a group of players transferring to other teams or retiring. Except that they need to go to the military by law, so they just retire.

Also, that League of Legends thing taking the spotlight.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
September 17 2013 14:27 GMT
#179
Meanwhile free is still going strong.

I'm a bit sad to see them quitting but WJS has so much upcoming players who also need to have the spotlight. BrAvO had an excellent run in the first half of the PL and others will too.
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5599 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-17 14:36:54
September 17 2013 14:31 GMT
#180
On September 17 2013 23:24 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2013 23:20 Ettick wrote:
What is up with all these retirements?

Large number of BW players making the switch to a new game and some of them deciding they want to go into military service, rather than continue with SC2. Think of it as a major sports team moving to a new city and a group of players transferring to other teams or retiring. Except that they need to go to the military by law, so they just retire.

Also, that League of Legends thing taking the spotlight.

and the following of the new SC is like 1/10 of that of the old one.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
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