Hi everyone. The moderation staff have noticed a sharp increase in the frequency of twitch "emotes" being used on TeamLiquid. This basically covers things like Kappa, Kreygasm, FrankerZ etc. (which produce emotes within twitch chat) as well as Dendiface, DogFace and so on (which are twitch memes that don't produce emotes). While we have tolerated these for a while, we've decided that it's time to curb this trend and as such the usage of twitch "emotes" on TL is now a bannable offense. This isn't really a change in policy, as the Ten Commandments state:
Memes, even TL ones, are annoying. Don't 1a2a3a your way to posting over 9000 memes -- we will ban you. There are plenty of places to go if you want to see posters of people failing at things or a humorous caption appended to a photograph of a cat. TeamLiquid is not one of those places.
But as we haven't been moderating it thus far we feel like a heads up is called for.
We will add notes to LR threads for the next few weeks to alert posters that this is not acceptable and ban people who are posting twitch "emotes" in those threads. When we see people doing this outside of LR threads we will be sending the user a PM alerting them to the fact that this is now actionable; and in a few weeks we will be warning/banning for their use. The Ten Commandments will be updated to reflect this.
If you have any questions about this please ask in this thread.
I really just want to say "kappa" and act like an annoying troll. But thank you TL for doing this. It gets really annoying. Now if only the b.net forums would be moderated more..
I've always understood Kappa as the much needed remark for sarcasm on the internet (since the look implies it). But it's overused so much nowadays that I'm fully supporting your move.
I read TL forums a lot. The ambiance here is very special, and I feel it has a lot to do with how people are oriented at contributing in a precise way. This is a unique place on the net keep up
On August 01 2013 11:30 Waxangel wrote: you wouldn't have done this if ShethFace was a thing, biased fucking sellouts
You realise you are supposed to be on our side in this?
why are you germans so humorless
Just to annoy the rest of the world >insert corresponding twitch emote here<
@Topic: Nice to read, finally more Zucht and Ordnung ! ... j/k
Back to being serious, thanks for drawing a line, some stuff got really annoying lately - always nice to see that the standards that are making this site great are preserved (or tried to be preserved).
So thats what kappa meant, the other ones I've never seen before. Can't say I'm a twitch chat user anyway, pop-out window from TL stream link and never see twitch chat for the win.
To be honest, Kappa is a nice way to know if someone is being sarcastic or not sometimes. But heh, TL has standards, and I agree about this.
Although, I can't say I don't enjoy Twitch emotes when people use them right during streams. Watching Fighting games events, the chat is just hilarious with them. It's like watching a live version of 4chan. There's genius behind the stupidity.
I am not familiar with any of these and I guess that is a good thing. I just never read Twitch chat unless I am having stream issues to see if others are hah
Holy shit finally, now maybe they can get rid of them in twitch chat too. There's no point in typing those emotes in the chat except to troll. It's the root of the fucking problem.
On August 01 2013 16:24 banjoetheredskin wrote: Holy shit finally, now maybe they can get rid of them in twitch chat too. There's no point in typing those emotes in the chat except to troll. It's the root of the fucking problem.
really? thats the problem with twitchchat?
i havent even noticed that twitch-emotes thing on tl.
What, are they? I'm still none the wiser. That said, the TL mods are usually on the ball so I shall defer to them but I genuinely have no idea what is being talked about
On August 01 2013 16:24 banjoetheredskin wrote: Holy shit finally, now maybe they can get rid of them in twitch chat too. There's no point in typing those emotes in the chat except to troll. It's the root of the fucking problem.
really? thats the problem with twitchchat?
Twitch chat is like watching a car accident. You'd like to look somewhere else, but you can't.
On August 01 2013 11:11 lichter wrote: I have no idea what these are because I, like any sane person, block twitchchat, but if they are as annoying as they sound, good riddance.
On August 01 2013 16:24 banjoetheredskin wrote: Holy shit finally, now maybe they can get rid of them in twitch chat too. There's no point in typing those emotes in the chat except to troll. It's the root of the fucking problem.
really? thats the problem with twitchchat?
Twitch chat is like watching a car accident. You'd like to look somewhere else, but you can't.
I find twitch.tv chat actually pretty entertaining when there isn't bashing of the playing streamer.
As the discussion is on, does tl consider to implentate new/more smileys? It's not much of a deal, but sometimes i miss certain emoticons and can't figure out which is the right replacement of the ones tl has.
On August 01 2013 11:30 Waxangel wrote: you wouldn't have done this if ShethFace was a thing, biased fucking sellouts
You realise you are supposed to be on our side in this?
why are you so german and humorless
Thread winning post :D
I haven't noticed much of this but i don't really stay in LRs much these days just for big games and such. Good move i guess, Twitch Chat is bloody awful xD
What about things like darude - sandstorm? Does that mean singsing gets unfeatured because his username is grey face (no space)? Also, raise your dongers/anything should probably be banned too. Same with table throwing.
Who are these people! Argh. I used to as a youngster feel socially alienated because I knew allthe memes and internet shiz, now I have no idea and I feel old and out of touch.
I didn't know these existed but I don't think this is far enough. Teamliquid should find every post that uses a Twitch emote and IP ban that poster, everyone knows Twitch chat is the cesspit of ESPORTS on the internet and anyone who uses a Twitch emote has obviously spent some time in Twitch chat so would be a good candidate for a new Team Liquid PreCrime program (TLPCP for short).
I predict this new policy of proaction will decrease mod actions by 50%, which will free up mods time by 50%, which will result in a 100% increased productivity in life (50%+50%=100%) for mods, which will in turn lead to 200% (100+50+50) extra income for mods.
I just googled kappa. I've been wondering what it meant ever since I saw RollPlay WH40k. So.. it's a face. I've actually seen it on twitch. What does it mean, anyway?
Twitch chat is the cancer of eSports. It's as if you placed 100 immature 10 year olds in a room, made them spectate and just shout random nonsense. I'm not surprised
I guess this is a question of total freespeech and how much censorship of that is tolerable to create a better forum for all of us. Not sure if I agree completly, but some of them got kinda annoying.
On August 01 2013 21:01 revel8 wrote: I don't know what a twitch emote is. I don't recognise any of those examples in OP. Was that rainbow sheep thing one?
On August 01 2013 20:43 Copymizer wrote: Twitch chat is the cancer of eSports. It's as if you placed 100 immature 10 year olds in a room, made them spectate and just shout random nonsense. I'm not surprised
I'm pretty sure people who participate in Twitch chat are a tiny minority of the overall viewers. It's not cancerous for anything, the feature just doesn't serve its purpose (arguably it doesn't even have a purpose) except on smallish channels.
I wish the opening post could link to some examples of offending posts. Maybe I'm oblivious, but I had no idea this was happening or what they actually look like in action.
On August 01 2013 20:43 Copymizer wrote: Twitch chat is the cancer of eSports. It's as if you placed 100 immature 10 year olds in a room, made them spectate and just shout random nonsense. I'm not surprised
I've not followed sc2 for a long time, but yea I remember twitch chats being pretty bad at times.
However I absolutely love twitch chats for speedrun streams, they can be pretty funny.
As I said in ABL before, I think this is the right decision. All these "things from X" are the same: they create social circles, they create sub-communities and help people feel like they belong to something, because only those people, who belong, understand. I find it completely asshollistic to use any such kind of "private language" outside its place, because it is a blatant disregard of other people on the forum who of no idea of what the nonsense means.
Every time I think I want to open twitch chat for the chance of maybe saying something that a streamer might consider worth responding to, I realize my grave error and close it within minutes.
On August 01 2013 23:09 neoghaleon55 wrote: I wish the opening post could link to some examples of offending posts. Maybe I'm oblivious, but I had no idea this was happening or what they actually look like in action.
The point isn't to shame users who have been doing it, more to prevent their usage in the future. Here is an example:
On July 29 2013 05:42 some user wrote: Kreygasm * 999999999
On August 01 2013 23:09 neoghaleon55 wrote: I wish the opening post could link to some examples of offending posts. Maybe I'm oblivious, but I had no idea this was happening or what they actually look like in action.
The point isn't to shame users who have been doing it, more to prevent their usage in the future. Here is an example:
On August 01 2013 20:43 Copymizer wrote: Twitch chat is the cancer of eSports. It's as if you placed 100 immature 10 year olds in a room, made them spectate and just shout random nonsense. I'm not surprised
I've not followed sc2 for a long time, but yea I remember twitch chats being pretty bad at times.
However I absolutely love twitch chats for speedrun streams, they can be pretty funny.
Only when stuff is HYPE. HYPE is awesome, and feeling HYPE and seeing chat go 100 miles an hour is awesome.
But outside of that people are really, really, REALLY annoying.
On August 02 2013 00:44 KelsierSC wrote: Just want to support the idea of banning the hashtag twitter nonsense.
I love this site and I really think it can be cheapened by the children who just hashtag everything in a desperate attempt to be funny.
Yeah, and tell those kids to stay off our lawn too!
Ha nice one!
Seriously though I like to think that TL is a relatively high quality community site. Perhaps this is a misguided view but the use of hashtag when it is not supported just comes across as moronic and lowers the quality of posts in my eyes.
It's easy to make the case that 'twitch emotes belong in twitch chats' just as 'hashtags belong on twitter and other places that functionality is used'.
I have honestly never used an "emote" because i never knew how to type them and never cared to know. But i honestly cant look at chat anymore because of all these, they are extremely annoying and only have worth if they are used sparingly, not every effing post.
And like another poster mentioned, it makes chat sound like a bunch of immature kids yelling catchphrases at their screens thinking they are funny. The more viewers, the exponential amount of offenders. I would be completely fine with twitch removing them entirely
I had no idea people were dropping "Kappas" and "FrankerZs" in TL posts...
Anybody stupid enough to break up an otherwise sensible post with mindless shit that has no functionality on this forum should do the following before clicking Post:
1. Slap yourself. 2. Ask someone else to slap you. 3. If you still feel like using Kappa in or after a sentence as anything but a proper noun, start back at step 1 and repeat as necessary.
For users unable to get the problem under control using the above steps I have a new home in mind for you... the Rust sub-forum at facepunch.com or the Blizzard forums.
On August 01 2013 19:22 Talin wrote: Hashtags next please.
Yes, this. In my opinion those are much worse than twitch memes, mostly because more people using those. Also it just makes sense, twitch emotes belong to twitch chat, hashtags to twitter etc.
On August 01 2013 19:22 Talin wrote: Hashtags next please.
Yes, this. In my opinion those are much worse than twitch memes, mostly because more people using those. Also it just makes sense, twitch emotes belong to twitch chat, hashtags to twitter etc.
Hastgas are outright absiurd. It's like if someone were typing C code in the forum. Hashtags do have a function on twitter, you can click on them, see shit.
Twitch chats have really become useless. There is no point in discussing the games anymore as people are spamming nonsense every second. I really hope channels starts to just do subscriber only to chat. Just block out the idiots. Make them pay to chat, if they get banned they just cant recreate another account without paying.
On August 02 2013 05:30 opisska wrote: Hastgas are outright absiurd. It's like if someone were typing C code in the forum. Hashtags do have a function on twitter, you can click on them, see shit.
I've seen and used C code in forums before... For example, using != instead of something like =/= is not a big deal.
And hashtags DO have a purpose outside of twitter, they make a quick reference or point without resorting to complete declarative sentences. For example, that whole last sentence could be summarized with something like:
I actually do find correct use of some memes/image macros funny, but because so few actually employ them well it's probably best to keep the outright ban.
If I ever get to be Supreme Overlord of TL the 'USA' joke will be completely expunged. Not sure what else would survive my Stalinist purges, probably the 'PvP is skill jokes at my beloved Oz. From there I'd likely hire some Cold War era Soviet propagandists to make Oz images in the style of the time.
On August 02 2013 06:34 Avean wrote: Twitch chats have really become useless. There is no point in discussing the games anymore as people are spamming nonsense every second. I really hope channels starts to just do subscriber only to chat. Just block out the idiots. Make them pay to chat, if they get banned they just cant recreate another account without paying.
I actually love the hype that twitch chats can create when not in sub only. It's less about discussing the games and more about a stadium crowd environment.
We almost made it to page 7, I am actually quite proud of this achievement.
Why are you proud, you are a banling. You don't feel proudness, just banlingness.
We users and staff members of other areas are the ones that are allowed to have such feelings as proudness. You banlings are here purely to ban and linger around until your next ban. Feelings are overrated for ones in your position and as such you are limited to having only the feelings of love and hate towards those you ban. To even claim that you feel proudness is to show a wanting to be something more. However, that something is so far out of reach that to claim it as your own would be to be something other than a banling.
Think of it this way:
Users - Caterpie Banlings - Metapod Other staff members - Other Pokemon Moderators - Butterfree Admins - Mewtwo
As you can tell, you are the useless hardening Metapod that only Tackle and String Shot when they feel like it.
String Shot - Warning Tackle - Bans of various damage.
On August 02 2013 10:30 Myles wrote: WTF I'm a Metapod? And Moderators are way stronger than Butterfree. That analogy is full of win.
Trust me. They are butterfree that have trained so long that they are not limited in the height of their stats. They fly freely and go around any which way they wish, searching for more than just another Caterpie to tackle.
Just talking about this has caused me to evolve into a High Templar. You dare defy me now?
On August 02 2013 10:30 Myles wrote: WTF I'm a Metapod? And Moderators are way stronger than Butterfree. That analogy if full of fail.
Trust me. They are butterfree that have trained so long that they are not limited in the height of their stats. They fly freely and go around any which way they wish, searching for more than just another Caterpie to tackle.
Just talking about this has caused me to evolve into a High Templar. You dare defy me now?
On August 02 2013 10:30 Myles wrote: WTF I'm a Metapod? And Moderators are way stronger than Butterfree. That analogy if full of fail.
Trust me. They are butterfree that have trained so long that they are not limited in the height of their stats. They fly freely and go around any which way they wish, searching for more than just another Caterpie to tackle.
Just talking about this has caused me to evolve into a High Templar. You dare defy me now?
Well, I do have a hammer
No that's actually just an icon to make you look more fearsome and powerful than you really are. In other words, it is a hallucination created by Mewtwo. All you really do to users is String Shot and Tackle them.
On August 01 2013 20:43 Copymizer wrote: Twitch chat is the cancer of eSports. It's as if you placed 100 immature 10 year olds in a room, made them spectate and just shout random nonsense. I'm not surprised
I've not followed sc2 for a long time, but yea I remember twitch chats being pretty bad at times.
However I absolutely love twitch chats for speedrun streams, they can be pretty funny.
Only when stuff is HYPE. HYPE is awesome, and feeling HYPE and seeing chat go 100 miles an hour is awesome.
But outside of that people are really, really, REALLY annoying.
Speaking of speedrunning, twitch emotes will be actionable in the speedrunning thread and marathon threads too, right? If so, a mod note linking to this thread/explaining the new policy may help prevent misunderstandings, as emotes are used fairly often to hype runs there.
On August 01 2013 19:22 Talin wrote: Hashtags next please.
This. I dislike the twitter crap so much more than I find twitch emotes annoying.
Please do this. I also hate the twitter crap..
Yeah I agree. Get the '#' nonsense gone too!
I find it amusing that people have been using these Twitch emotes here, as I assume (since I've not really seen any) that they don't work... Mainly because they are TWITCH emotes and this is TEAM LIQUID? How daft do people have to be to actually think they would work here?
well the problem with twitch chat is that you can get a new account in matter of seconds. So its pretty unmoddable if you have a lot of viewers.
I admit ive used Kappa here once or twice to signal sarcasm. Because on the internet you cant see my face to see if im serious or not. There is some kind of indication needed, because some people will read stuff in a serious voice otherwise, which leads to silly arguments. So i guess you have to use one of the tl smilies or spell it out with [irony] or [sarcasm] tags.
Im not one of the guys who condemns twitch chat. It can be fun. It is kind of the equivalent to fan chants in a football stadium. Of course they would be silly and have no place in serious discussions but its a kind of a "team spirit" (in lack of a more fitting word) to spam a twitch chat with some emoticons. Its fun to see it being out of control with the silliest stuff.
Like memes i dont think they are bad per se, you just need to know the place for it. and its totally acceptable that tl isnt that place.
But dreamhack for example is also that entertaining because their interaction with twitch chat. To illustrate the dreamhack admin and twitch viewer relationship i want to link this video --> + Show Spoiler +
Over here it's a slang term interchangeable with 'capper' depending on your particular accent, which is as far as I'm aware a weird contraction of 'handicapped'
On August 01 2013 19:22 Talin wrote: Hashtags next please.
This. I dislike the twitter crap so much more than I find twitch emotes annoying.
Please do this. I also hate the twitter crap..
Yeah I agree. Get the '#' nonsense gone too!
I find it amusing that people have been using these Twitch emotes here, as I assume (since I've not really seen any) that they don't work... Mainly because they are TWITCH emotes and this is TEAM LIQUID? How daft do people have to be to actually think they would work here?
I want to slap people who hashtag everything they say on places like Facebook.
Well, I didn't really notice an increase of strange memes here on TL, but I am really happy about this decision. I would even like it if twitch would enforce some policy against an overuse of the sensless meme and "emote" spam in their chats.
TL is like the Helm's Deep of the internet, the last stand of sane people versus the endless hordes of twitch chat trolls and other breeds of evil internet creatures.
I still don't know what it represents or what the joke is. Is it an emote of a Justintv staff guy that stuck it there for a laugh never expecting it to be spammed?
"Kappa" is (probably the nickname of) a former Justin.tv employee, called Josh in real life (no idea about family name). Here is his twitter: https://twitter.com/KappaJTV
Many emotes on JTV are the faces of current or former employees, but this guy's particular photo resembles somewhat the "trollface" meme. So JTV chat has accepted it as equivalent. It has grown outside of Justin or Twitch, and can be seen now in other text-based internet communication.
p.s. Notably, in Rollplay Warhammer 40k Dark Heresy (with JP, djWHEAT, iNcontrol & TB), Totalbiscuit's character is called Engelbart Kappa - although, of course, one could very well argue that it just fits the W40k theme, as TB gladly would.
Never noticed them on TL (then again I don't read the LR threads anymore due to work commitments and WCS killing ESPORTS), and never noticed twitch chat being anything but a fun place, although I do watch more speedrunning streams than sc2 nowadays. Cannot understand this other than that TL isn't twitch chat so posting FrankerZ has no real context.
first they came for the lolcats, and nobody complained because nobody was a lolcat. Then they came for the kappa, and nobody objected because nobody was a kappa.
More seriously though, I'm never happy to see censorship. I don't think what makes TL amazing is its high standards for banning memes.
On August 03 2013 05:05 goldenwitch wrote: first they came for the lolcats, and nobody complained because nobody was a lolcat. Then they came for the kappa, and nobody objected because nobody was a kappa.
More seriously though, I'm never happy to see censorship. I don't think what makes TL amazing is its high standards for banning memes.
Every day I don't have to see 4000 kappa faces in the LR is a good day in my books.
On August 03 2013 05:05 goldenwitch wrote: first they came for the lolcats, and nobody complained because nobody was a lolcat. Then they came for the kappa, and nobody objected because nobody was a kappa.
More seriously though, I'm never happy to see censorship. I don't think what makes TL amazing is its high standards for banning memes.
Every day I don't have to see 4000 kappa faces in the LR is a good day in my books.
On August 02 2013 20:45 Wombat_NI wrote: Glorious analogy man, would also have accepted the Spartans at Thermopylae
LotR > 300
Unlike Helms Deep we'll eventually be overrun and killed :p
Shamelessly copy-pasted because I don't have this memorized... but reading how people are saying TL will be run over by the trolls of the internet
Sons of BW (not elitism, just acknowledging our roots), of eSports, my brothers! I see in your eyes the same fear that would take the heart of me. A day may come when the sanity of men fails, when we forsake our logic, and break all restrictions on trolling; but it is not this day! An hour of woe, and shameless emotes, when the Age of TL comes crashing down; but it is not this day! This day we fight! By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West!
Am I the only one who got emotional reading this? But thank you TL for being the safe haven fighting off the incessant advancement of trolling that has more and more gone rampant throughout the internet.
On August 02 2013 20:45 Wombat_NI wrote: Glorious analogy man, would also have accepted the Spartans at Thermopylae
LotR > 300
Unlike Helms Deep we'll eventually be overrun and killed :p
Shamelessly copy-pasted because I don't have this memorized... Sons of BW (not elitism, just acknowledging our roots), of eSports, my brothers! I see in your eyes the same fear that would take the heart of me. A day may come when the sanity of men fails, when we forsake our logic, and break all restrictions on trolling; but it is not this day! An hour of woe, and shameless emotes, when the Age of TL comes crashing down; but it is not this day! This day we fight! By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West! Am I the only one who got emotional reading this? But thank you TL for being the safe haven fighting off the incessant advancement of trolling that has more and more gone rampant throughout the internet.
On August 02 2013 20:45 Wombat_NI wrote: Glorious analogy man, would also have accepted the Spartans at Thermopylae
LotR > 300
Unlike Helms Deep we'll eventually be overrun and killed :p
Shamelessly copy-pasted because I don't have this memorized... Sons of BW (not elitism, just acknowledging our roots), of eSports, my brothers! I see in your eyes the same fear that would take the heart of me. A day may come when the sanity of men fails, when we forsake our logic, and break all restrictions on trolling; but it is not this day! An hour of woe, and shameless emotes, when the Age of TL comes crashing down; but it is not this day! This day we fight! By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West! Am I the only one who got emotional reading this? But thank you TL for being the safe haven fighting off the incessant advancement of trolling that has more and more gone rampant throughout the internet.
On August 03 2013 11:08 r.Evo wrote: I love you guys.
Took me long enough to figure it out, didn't know that using twitch chat was the cool thing to do.
its not
Yeah if you saw my edit, I meant the speech to be for the people who were saying TL was doomed and like 300 (fighting off the inevitable) whereas I saw it more as being a beacon of hope that will hopefully continue to do so for people who want to have actual conversations.
On August 02 2013 20:45 Wombat_NI wrote: Glorious analogy man, would also have accepted the Spartans at Thermopylae
LotR > 300
Unlike Helms Deep we'll eventually be overrun and killed :p
Shamelessly copy-pasted because I don't have this memorized... but reading how people are saying TL will be run over by the trolls of the internet
Sons of BW (not elitism, just acknowledging our roots), of eSports, my brothers! I see in your eyes the same fear that would take the heart of me. A day may come when the sanity of men fails, when we forsake our logic, and break all restrictions on trolling; but it is not this day! An hour of woe, and shameless emotes, when the Age of TL comes crashing down; but it is not this day! This day we fight! By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West!
Am I the only one who got emotional reading this? But thank you TL for being the safe haven fighting off the incessant advancement of trolling that has more and more gone rampant throughout the internet.
EDIT: spacing for more readability~
No, not the only one. I shed a single tear of manly resolve reading this.
On August 03 2013 05:05 goldenwitch wrote: first they came for the lolcats, and nobody complained because nobody was a lolcat. Then they came for the kappa, and nobody objected because nobody was a kappa.
More seriously though, I'm never happy to see censorship. I don't think what makes TL amazing is its high standards for banning memes.
Memes are fine as a single reference. But in the internet, people tend to just spout memes without any substance behind it. Since memes alone are rarely never expressing one's opinion in a meaningful way, they are censored. If people were just posting quotes upon quotes of historic books without any of their own thought contributed, that would be cenosred as well(if something like that was happening. It is not happening right now).
On August 03 2013 10:44 maru~ wrote: Can you ban hashtags while you're at it?
#dealwithit
Great shitposting.
Ah the irony.
Anyways, removing Kappa and whatnot is fine, but leave hashtags because holy shit you can't actually plan to "censor" THAT much, r-right? Assuming someone doesn't use # next to every word in a post, it still maintains the quality of the original post.
"Deal with it" has the exact same meaning as "#dealwithit".
On August 03 2013 10:44 maru~ wrote: Can you ban hashtags while you're at it?
#dealwithit
Great shitposting.
Ah the irony.
Anyways, removing Kappa and whatnot is fine, but leave hashtags because holy shit you can't actually plan to "censor" THAT much, r-right? Assuming someone doesn't use # next to every word in a post, it still maintains the quality of the original post.
"Deal with it" has the exact same meaning as "#dealwithit".
Probably has the same meaning but it just makes you 1000 times more moronic
On August 03 2013 10:44 maru~ wrote: Can you ban hashtags while you're at it?
#dealwithit
Great shitposting.
Ah the irony.
Anyways, removing Kappa and whatnot is fine, but leave hashtags because holy shit you can't actually plan to "censor" THAT much, r-right? Assuming someone doesn't use # next to every word in a post, it still maintains the quality of the original post.
"Deal with it" has the exact same meaning as "#dealwithit".
Probably has the same meaning but it just makes you 1000 times more moronic
Because what?
I am an idiot moron without a sense of "proper" humor, because I find something else funny that you happen to do?
That attitude, is what I'd call "1000 times more moronic"
On August 03 2013 10:44 maru~ wrote: Can you ban hashtags while you're at it?
#dealwithit
Great shitposting.
Ah the irony.
Anyways, removing Kappa and whatnot is fine, but leave hashtags because holy shit you can't actually plan to "censor" THAT much, r-right? Assuming someone doesn't use # next to every word in a post, it still maintains the quality of the original post.
"Deal with it" has the exact same meaning as "#dealwithit".
Don't ban it by all means, I find hashtags obnoxious as fuck and redundant for the most part on mediums where they're not required. If people used them with wit all the time this wouldn't be a problem, but as with image macros that's sadly not the case
On August 03 2013 10:44 maru~ wrote: Can you ban hashtags while you're at it?
#dealwithit
Great shitposting.
Ah the irony.
Anyways, removing Kappa and whatnot is fine, but leave hashtags because holy shit you can't actually plan to "censor" THAT much, r-right? Assuming someone doesn't use # next to every word in a post, it still maintains the quality of the original post.
"Deal with it" has the exact same meaning as "#dealwithit".
Probably has the same meaning but it just makes you 1000 times more moronic
Because what?
I am an idiot moron without a sense of "proper" humor, because I find something else funny that you happen to do?
That attitude, is what I'd call "1000 times more moronic"
People use it because they think it justifies the obnoxious or ignorant things they type.
hashtags don't work on this site, they're overused and they aren't funny.
Thank God. If i wanted annoying meme's repeated ad nausea then another thousand times, I'd hang out in the wretched hive of scum and villiany that is Twitch chat. Glad TL is still a place where us classy gentlemen can yell at each other
I was wondering what the hell was Kappa. I thought that everyone suddenly talked about the supernatural Japanese folklore monster and I couldn't figure it out why..
On August 03 2013 10:44 maru~ wrote: Can you ban hashtags while you're at it?
#dealwithit
Great shitposting.
Plot twist: You're the shitposter for taking an official mod announcement thread and using it to air all of your opinions on what you find funny/makes everyone else a moron.
On August 04 2013 02:13 Kuzmorgo wrote: Finally, I don't have to wonder anymore what kappa means. I always thought ppl are just misspelling Kaipi
Haha, me too. Especially since I usually saw it in the context of Dota2, where people (for some annoying reason) like to misspell everything. I suppose it makes you cool to call it doto instead of dota, and volvo instead of valve.
On August 03 2013 10:44 maru~ wrote: Can you ban hashtags while you're at it?
#dealwithit
Great shitposting.
Plot twist: You're the shitposter for taking an official mod announcement thread and using it to air all of your opinions on what you find funny/makes everyone else a moron.
Except spamming memes, kappa and hashtags is pretty much the same shit.
so wait, you mean writing 'kappa' gets you banned? :S I'm not familiar with twitch chat but I don't recall seeing it written in the LR threads I've been in.
On August 04 2013 04:35 BigFan wrote: so wait, you mean writing 'kappa' gets you banned? :S I'm not familiar with twitch chat but I don't recall seeing it written in the LR threads I've been in.
ya i have no idea what everyone's complaining about. so is the rule that we can not type 'kappa' or other twitch emote in our forum messages? i mean its a word, and not an image that pops up?
On August 03 2013 05:05 goldenwitch wrote: first they came for the lolcats, and nobody complained because nobody was a lolcat. Then they came for the kappa, and nobody objected because nobody was a kappa.
More seriously though, I'm never happy to see censorship. I don't think what makes TL amazing is its high standards for banning memes.
Memes are fine as a single reference. But in the internet, people tend to just spout memes without any substance behind it. Since memes alone are rarely never expressing one's opinion in a meaningful way, they are censored. If people were just posting quotes upon quotes of historic books without any of their own thought contributed, that would be cenosred as well(if something like that was happening. It is not happening right now).
'and this is how liberty dies .. with thunderous applause'
On August 04 2013 04:35 BigFan wrote: so wait, you mean writing 'kappa' gets you banned? :S I'm not familiar with twitch chat but I don't recall seeing it written in the LR threads I've been in.
ya i have no idea what everyone's complaining about. so is the rule that we can not type 'kappa' or other twitch emote in our forum messages? i mean its a word, and not an image that pops up?
It's an image of a guy's face. A staff member of twitch who goes by the name "kappa" from what I gather.
so when i reported someone for twitch emote spam in a LR thread a few weeks back and it was marked not actionable, can i get that expunged from my record to increase my report stats?
On August 07 2013 15:47 RLTY wrote: I don't see how this is altogether that different from everyone picking an emote to use or spamming the kimtaekyong :O face but whatever.
I fear the day that is overused on TL and we're forced to ban it.
Thanks for the heads up! I'm afraid I've been guilty of using them Twitch memes on TL forums. Now that I think of it, it is sort of dumb to post something that half of the people on the forums probably don't understand and doesn't even produce any kind of image.
TL moderation certainly showing the fact it is widely mocked outside of the site for "over the top strictness" to be a complete lie with this solid move.
On August 07 2013 16:04 Plexa wrote: If you're saying Kappa, PogChamp etc. in a context which we deem to be twitch speak, it will be considered an actionable offense.
Perhaps I'm oblivious to this epidemic but I can't help but feel this is a strange overreaction.
Kappa is one of those emotes which make me feel miserable.. Like, it's not funny cool or edgy, it's just used by a bunch of wannabe trolls who want to feel a part of the group. Annoying as balls.
On August 01 2013 19:22 Talin wrote: Hashtags next please.
This too please. More ignorant trendy meme shit. I didn't even know what a hashtag was until I asked my 22 year old girlfriend (I'm a social media luddite. I despise it). I guess it makes sense on twitter, but outside of that, you make yourself look like a moron. Also, I'm still not clear on what kappa is. Do you type the word? Or does it make one of those faces on twitch (I block the chat)?
On August 08 2013 16:24 MVTaylor wrote: TL moderation certainly showing the fact it is widely mocked outside of the site for "over the top strictness" to be a complete lie with this solid move.
Being mocked on twitch chat should be seen as a badge of honor.
On August 08 2013 16:24 MVTaylor wrote: TL moderation certainly showing the fact it is widely mocked outside of the site for "over the top strictness" to be a complete lie with this solid move.
I dont think TL minds being mocked by the kind of bottom-feeders that spam kappa in twitch chat and think its hilarious.
On August 07 2013 16:04 Plexa wrote: If you're saying Kappa, PogChamp etc. in a context which we deem to be twitch speak, it will be considered an actionable offense.
Perhaps I'm oblivious to this epidemic but I can't help but feel this is a strange overreaction.
I think they're trying to deal with a minor issue before it becomes a larger one.
On August 10 2013 08:33 Cool Cat wrote: Why are Japanese emoticons, which are rarely even spammed in Twitch chat and have origins completely unrelated to Twitch, banned as well?
They were spammed in twitch chat a lot (the shrugging tsu-face especially) before people figured out all the key words for emotes.
They also provide very little contribution to any sort of constructive discussion. TL is not the type of site that wants to put up with entirely useless posting, when it can be avoided with a simple rule.
On August 08 2013 19:51 MidKnight wrote: Kappa is one of those emotes which make me feel miserable.. Like, it's not funny cool or edgy, it's just used by a bunch of wannabe trolls who want to feel a part of the group. Annoying as balls.
I totally agree, but this emote spam has become so stupid, I wouldn't even call them trolls anymore. For me a troll can do intelligent things trick people and be funny in an intelligent way. This is just outright stupid mass spam without any sense and I hope twitch will combat this by giving the chat admins more intelligent options then to just put the whole chat in subscriber only mode or whatever, I would prefer to call them zombies instead of trolls
If twitch wants to make Money, turbo which helps you to disable adds is a bad idea- I am all for shotgun to combat zombies where the spam of people that just use silly emotes e-dicks and whatever childish nonsense just get eliminated and invisible and they can spam themselves with their stupid *****.
It sets a bad example when your "ten commandments" completely contradicts itself, the rules of the forums are no place for sarcasm, and you can't tell whether or not you're serious. Either be a hardass (not a bad thing don't ban me plz) or a funny mod, doing both is just asking for misunderstanding.
On August 07 2013 16:04 Plexa wrote: If you're saying Kappa, PogChamp etc. in a context which we deem to be twitch speak, it will be considered an actionable offense.
Perhaps I'm oblivious to this epidemic but I can't help but feel this is a strange overreaction.
watch 20h sc2 a day and not know a single emote of them, never heared of kappa even, a good part of instantly click the twitch chat away (come on they act like 12 year olds ^^) nice to see tl stay more adult or even try to
Is the sup son face considered a twitch face? I mean it definitely originated in twitch chat in relation to how it is used on the forums, that is for sure.
On August 01 2013 10:51 dWarreN wrote: I really just want to say "kappa" and act like an annoying troll. But thank you TL for doing this. It gets really annoying. Now if only the b.net forums would be moderated more..
Not that I have anything against this about banning for using twitch emotes on TL but I ask what sort of examples of it being something that should be curbed as in some sort of abuse. I mean I'm looking to get a laugh out of some sort of past abuse of these "known" now ban-able emotes.
We almost made it to page 7, I am actually quite proud of this achievement.
Why are you proud, you are a banling. You don't feel proudness, just banlingness.
We users and staff members of other areas are the ones that are allowed to have such feelings as proudness. You banlings are here purely to ban and linger around until your next ban. Feelings are overrated for ones in your position and as such you are limited to having only the feelings of love and hate towards those you ban. To even claim that you feel proudness is to show a wanting to be something more. However, that something is so far out of reach that to claim it as your own would be to be something other than a banling.
Think of it this way:
Users - Caterpie Banlings - Metapod Other staff members - Other Pokemon Moderators - Butterfree Admins - Mewtwo
As you can tell, you are the useless hardening Metapod that only Tackle and String Shot when they feel like it.
String Shot - Warning Tackle - Bans of various damage.
Codonbyte used Stealth Rock! Pointed stones float in the air around your side of the field! + Show Spoiler +
Edit: I know the thread is over 3 months old, but since it is stickied I figured it would be okay for me to post in it.
Since this thread already got bumped I don't think I'll receive a warning for posting here.
I received 2 warnings today due to the twitch emotes while I was posting on the Gamescom IEM day 5. Just wondering where can I find info on how many warnings I can receive before I get banned and will it be permanent or temporal? And if it is temporal, how long usually it takes to get unbanned?
We don't have a set number of warnings before you get banned, or designated ban lengths. It is much better to plan to receive no future warnings or bans, of course.
I am not sure if I am right here because it is a general question.
If someone donate to a player, who is paying paypal fees? In some cases the player is rather making loss by 1€ donate if the recipient (player) has to pay the fee.
if you receive money for goods or services (such as from selling an item on eBay), the fee for each transaction is 2.9% plus $0.30 USD of the amount you receive
So a €1 donation turns into like 70 cent in Euros, unless the flat .30 $ equates to € that way, in which it becomes like 50cents xD
Hi, I would like to make a plea for the one. While there have been very few advances in "gaming social practices" in the last decade, the streaming has "dictated" its pace and axioms to our arguable general benefit.
Is a twitch chat cancer? No. Does tl need to allow any random number of emotes for those reason? No.
However, the emote that tops them all (in quantity without argument but possibly in quality too) should be awarded a tl existence.
Of course if the purpose is to display the emote there is no discussion to be had, it is clearly wrong.
But writing the letters without the fear of reprisal, awarding the word its due, to use it in a context where no other word could be used seems like something tl should do. Edit:
On August 23 2015 21:47 fluidrone wrote: Hi, I would like to make a plea for the one. While there have been very few advances in "gaming social practices" in the last decade, the streaming has "dictated" its pace and axioms to our arguable general benefit.
Is a twitch chat cancer? No. Does tl need to allow any random number of emotes for those reason? No.
However, the emote that tops them all (in quantity without argument but possibly in quality too) should be awarded a tl existence.
Of course if the purpose is to display the emote there is no discussion to be had, it is clearly wrong.
But writing the letters without the fear of reprisal, awarding the word its due, to use it in a context where no other word could be used seems like something tl should do. Edit:
It is my belief that any Twitch emote that could be used to describe a particular emotion or concept can be explained in normal English well enough to not need the emote, even if the idea conveyed is not as potent or relatable when put in normal text format. For instance, when we see someone use Kappa, or Kreygasm, or PJSalt, we all understand the general idea of why that emote was posted and how it relates to the content being displayed. However, if that much is understood, surely we can translate our emotional ties to these emotes into proper sentence structure that's more conducive to discussion on an Internet forum.
Sure, emotes like Kappa have a certain je ne sais quoi that can't really be matched by words typed out to indicate sarcasm or irony... but because we can do it well enough, we ought to simply disallow emotes to discourage spammy posting behavior. TeamLiquid as a discussion forum and Twitch chat as a real-time barometer of public opinion of a stream are two very different forms of media; communication methods used in one do not necessarily fit the other, despite both being Internet-based.
Keep the emotes on Twitch where they are most useful in engaging other content viewers on a moment-to-moment basis. TL is not the place for that.
I mostly meant "Kappa". That emote for me (I'm sure not for everyone and even for few) means "I want to be here!"
How could you convey any better than with this purposefully absurd way of showing attachment, without the other people being able to find fault with the statement (since you added the emote) that you are happy to be here (maybe without knowing that that is the case, maybe not having any idea of what you are doing). Ergo the statement is just "hi" in essence (possibly the text beside it is not).
Again, I wasn't advocating any number, just the one to signify that we are in 2015 not 2010.
.. Kreygasm, or PJSalt ..
3 would even be more in tune with the 2015 numerology though, I admit to total "newbiness" in the matter. I never use "krey" because it is so "suspect" that if you couple it with text it can be construed as so many stuff... I never spread salt outside of my plate, in this case it is more because I see it as "standard" but on the negative spectrum and I feel there are already more than too many "righteous" "salters" (if a streamer is salty one can call her/him/it on it, while it is fair game, it doesn't take much to pass on it quickly and to make it fun rather than spam).
But I do believe your point was that it is 1/"totally" understandable situational emotes required to not be "permissive" 2/"stuff" not conveyable with words or lessened by being in text that would make an emote "acceptable" 3/stream chat is not a forum
3/ is a given
TWITCH emote and their place on TL
1/is arguable forever
So, about 2/ Yes I do think pictures meant to capture the zeitgeist of a particular "universe" (in our case using forums) should be allowed to add to the layering of our content.
Again, I am advocating for one. Not awaiting flying monkeys, just trying to get what everybody would associate with the first?
What does Kappa mean?
TLDR: I am not even sure what Kappa means for everyone, how could I use it?
ps: I will wait for a response from anyone before I do my spiel of answering my own question.
pps: I love the thread tittle, "their place on tl" is in this thread, ..so layered, so funny!
EPT
, the kappa was getting out of control.
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, although Wax will hunt you down
Use TL smilies they are amazing.
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is overused on TL and we're forced to ban it.![[image loading]](http://www.animemb.com/forums/images/smilies/anime1/kruemelmonsteryn0.gif)
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to be a good substitute for GreyFace
