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theMagus
578 Posts
http://www.statisticbrain.com/countries-with-the-highest-lowest-average-iq/ i just noticed that there's a correlation between a region's average iq and the popular idea that KR>EU>NA in sc2 performance. i just want to know people's thoughts about this amusing (for me) detail. any thoughts/ideas/objections/whatever are welcome. no racist remarks please. mods, please feel free to close this thread if starts to turn ugly. thanks and i appreciate your thoughts in advance  | ||
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ChaiNs
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Fuchsteufelswild
Australia2028 Posts
In addition, I rather doubt your average "TL goer" or starcraft player thinks they are of only average intelligence.  I, at least, suspect there is no correlation between AVERAGE IQ and the performances of individuals who happen to be from whatever countries. | ||
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SnipedSoul
Canada2158 Posts
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larse
1611 Posts
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ETisME
12702 Posts
not to mention the EQ factor, such as it takes lot of patience to not collapse down to the constant drops in ZvT | ||
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sluggaslamoo
Australia4494 Posts
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farvacola
United States18856 Posts
On June 05 2013 13:20 SnipedSoul wrote: Less than half a standard deviation between highest and lowest IQ doesn't mean anything to me. ^, the stats do not provide a meaningful basis with which to discuss this topic in a way that avoids abject prejudice and what will amount to name calling. | ||
lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
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theMagus
578 Posts
On June 05 2013 13:20 larse wrote: This type of data on mass media is just not reliable enough. What's its methodology? Nothing. What's its details of collecting data? Nothing. And if you know anything about academic studies, all these concepts, measurements, and data gatherings are always controversial and debatable. You can always find competing data, methods, and findings. You can't just make this big generalization by using a unreliable data on mass media. i honestly don't know but a lot of other sites confirm this data. i don't know their methodologies either though | ||
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Spriki
216 Posts
So, IQ has noting to do with it. It mostly comes down to game sense and understanding | ||
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figq
12519 Posts
Also, never forget correlation doesn't imply causation. You could assume the implication "IQ->sc2skill", but it could be rather some property X (say nation wealth) for which "X->IQ" and "X->sc2skill". | ||
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theMagus
578 Posts
On June 05 2013 13:26 Spriki wrote: there was a documentary about Mvp's rise in starcraft (forgot the title though) and during an interview his parents said that their son was academically poor that's why they supported him becoming a progamer So, IQ has noting to do with it. It mostly comes down to game sense and understanding i would argue that academic performance isn't solely dictated by IQ either. it has more to do with effort and passion in learning. | ||
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Insomni7
667 Posts
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skullnite
12 Posts
But I agree this really doesn't say anything about individual people. The difference in the averages are very small in comparison to the variation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ_classification. As you can see all the revalent nations fall within the "normal" category. So this data really isn't useful for the analysis you wish to do. That doesn't specifically mean your hypothesis is incorrect but this data does not support it | ||
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L3gendary
Canada1470 Posts
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theMagus
578 Posts
On June 05 2013 13:31 L3gendary wrote: The reason korea has the best players is because starcraft was insanely popular there and they developed pro teams where players would spend 8-12 hours a day playing the game. It has nothing to do with IQ. Look at the nationalities of chess players if you want to quickly refute this idea. don't you think at all that korea having the 2nd highest average IQ has a lot to do with starcraft becoming a very popular game in their country to begin with? | ||
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DDie
Brazil2369 Posts
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On June 05 2013 13:33 theMagus wrote: don't you think at all that korea having the 2nd highest average IQ has a lot to do with starcraft becoming a very popular game in their country to begin with? it might be well due to other factors though, like how korea is fairly densely populated and that starcraft came at the right timee to grow in pc bangs there etc | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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SCWind
United States33 Posts
On June 05 2013 13:33 theMagus wrote: don't you think at all that korea having the 2nd highest average IQ has a lot to do with starcraft becoming a very popular game in their country to begin with? LoL is massively more popular than SC2 in korea anyways, therefor LoL is clearly a game more suited for intellectuals There's so many holes in everything you've said, this is ridiculous | ||
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theMagus
578 Posts
On June 05 2013 13:36 Chairman Ray wrote: I think it's pretty obvious that a person with higher IQ will have a higher likelihood than a person with lower IQ to perform well at Starcraft, seeing as how some of the core mechanics of Starcraft is exactly what IQ tests seek to measure. However, I fail to see how the average IQ of a country would incite any sort of discussion, seeing as how Starcraft players are individual people. so for you and other people subscribing to your idea as well, this apparent 'order' between the data and the popular idea i mentioned is purely coincidental? | ||
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theMagus
578 Posts
On June 05 2013 13:37 SCWind wrote: LoL is massively more popular than SC2 in korea anyways, therefor LoL is clearly a game more suited for intellectuals There's so many holes in everything you've said, this is ridiculous i was referring to broodwar. and chill out dude, i'm just bored but amused by this 'order' i noticed | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On June 05 2013 13:38 theMagus wrote: so for you and other people subscribing to your idea as well, this apparent 'order' between the data and the popular idea i mentioned is purely coincidental? i think so, yeah. it might have something to do with cultural stuff -> in general east asians work hard and promote academic success which leads to both a higher iq and a better sc performance. | ||
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theMagus
578 Posts
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SCWind
United States33 Posts
On June 05 2013 13:40 theMagus wrote: i was referring to broodwar. and chill out dude, i'm just bored but amused by this 'order' i noticed Here's the thing about IQ; It's a bell curve, so you have X% of the population above a certain range from your average. That means there are WAY more people in the US with an IQ over 150 than somewhere like Sweden because of the differences in population size, therefor by the same logic the US should be outperforming Sweden. That's not the case at all, so it's pretty clear to me IQ has nothing to do with SC2 performance. | ||
Heyoka
Katowice25012 Posts
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