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Northern_iight
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada363 Posts
May 20 2013 20:52 GMT
#21
answer? because jumping onto bandwagons is the cool thing to do!
People here have their opinions, that they're pro gay and shit but in real life, nothing they do reflects their opinions. People say shit (especially on TL/internet) just to stay relevant.
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
May 20 2013 20:52 GMT
#22
On May 21 2013 05:31 yeeshdontjudgeme wrote:
I never thought I'd see the day when eSports fans are actually criticizing the sponsors themselves for their OPINIONS rather than their ACTIONS. But here we are now... Why are people so against Papa Johns supporting eSports?

From what I heard, officials at Papa Johns have expressed controversial opinions such as not supporting "ObamaCare" or universal health-care or have been accused of being anti-homosexual. Whether it's true or not is not what I'm interested in. I'm just wondering why in the hell does this community care?

Papa Johns has supported eSports in the past and is supporting it today so this isn't their first time their dabbling into eSports, thus this isn't some convoluted scheme to raise popular opinion towards them. Besides raising popular opinion on something as small as esports (no offense) isn't the right way to do it.

Officials at Papa Johns may have some controversial opinions, but in my opinion that shouldn't matter to people. Everyone, including officials at multi-million dollar companies are entitled to their own opinions. And from the looks of it, Papa Johns has never done anything to harass or fire employees that are openly homosexual and Papa Johns officials have merely stated their OWN OPINIONS on anti-gay marriage, etc. The Obama Care issue is really confusing me because basically Papa Johns did nothing but state their opinions on it. I don't know why people are getting up in arms about their opinion.

Basically, I'm FOR Papa Johns joining eSports. I understand that Papa Johns may have a controversial resume, but from what I've seen their "disgusting actions" were merely officials stating their opinions. Seeing as though a many of us are from countries that protect the right to opinion, I'm appalled at the community for being so against a company just SIMPLY for their opinions.


The reason is because so long as Americans publicly hate a political enemy, they will feel better about their own hypocrisies.
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
_SpiRaL_
Profile Joined December 2012
Afghanistan1636 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-20 20:52:42
May 20 2013 20:52 GMT
#23
Because they make quite literally the worst pizza's you can get?
Red and yellow are all I see
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-20 20:53:16
May 20 2013 20:52 GMT
#24
I think it's fine to dislike and not want to support corporations which display opinions I'm fundamentally opposed to, regardless of the fact that their opinion has nothing to do with their business. There are other pizzerias which didn't openly behave like children, I'll do business with those when I can. I won't starve and I won't do business with a company owned by trash.

Physical and moral victory.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
yeeshdontjudgeme
Profile Joined August 2012
146 Posts
May 20 2013 20:53 GMT
#25
On May 21 2013 05:45 Hitch-22 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 05:37 yeeshdontjudgeme wrote:
On May 21 2013 05:34 HelloSon wrote:
I'm going to assume you know nothing about them charging an extra 25c for Obamacare.


Source? Plus, I'm going to tell you that I don't care. That has nothing to do with eSports. I'm not here to argue politics. I'm just here to wonder why the community cares so much about what the sponsors do? It's none of their business. In my opinion, the community should be grateful that a company as large as Papa Johns is supporting them.

This guy doesn't care so why the fuck should we!

Personally it's no fray for me but any thinking man would find PJ's a bit ridiculous for their position on Obamacare.


So half of the United States doesn't think? Way to be unbiased. /sarcasm
I'm a strict equalist. If a female wants to be treated equal to men, then that smack they just delivered will be returned promptly.
suicideyear
Profile Joined December 2012
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
May 20 2013 20:53 GMT
#26
support e-sports by paying for and attending and viewing events


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danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-20 20:54:39
May 20 2013 20:53 GMT
#27
On May 21 2013 05:45 Hitch-22 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 05:37 yeeshdontjudgeme wrote:
On May 21 2013 05:34 HelloSon wrote:
I'm going to assume you know nothing about them charging an extra 25c for Obamacare.


Source? Plus, I'm going to tell you that I don't care. That has nothing to do with eSports. I'm not here to argue politics. I'm just here to wonder why the community cares so much about what the sponsors do? It's none of their business. In my opinion, the community should be grateful that a company as large as Papa Johns is supporting them.

This guy doesn't care so why the fuck should we!

Personally it's no fray for me but any thinking man would find PJ's a bit ridiculous for their position on Obamacare.


Brilliant! Now, anyone that doesn't agree with you doesn't think.

To the OP: An idea is a powerful thing.
"Science has so well established that the preborn baby in the womb is a living human being that most pro-choice activists have conceded the point. ..since the abortion proponents have lost the science argument, they are now advocating an existential one."
starcraft911
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Korea (South)1263 Posts
May 20 2013 20:55 GMT
#28
On May 21 2013 05:37 yeeshdontjudgeme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 05:34 HelloSon wrote:
I'm going to assume you know nothing about them charging an extra 25c for Obamacare.


Source? Plus, I'm going to tell you that I don't care. That has nothing to do with eSports. I'm not here to argue politics. I'm just here to wonder why the community cares so much about what the sponsors do? It's none of their business. In my opinion, the community should be grateful that a company as large as Papa Johns is supporting them.


Sorry buddy, but when a company comes out and makes a statement that pisses people off, people are more than welcome to express their disdain with their money. Papa John's made an amateur mistake and would have done better to keep their mouth shut. Mixing business and politics is best done in private as you're surely going to piss people off.
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
May 20 2013 20:55 GMT
#29
I'm very happy our community takes a stand against corporate American greed. A corporation that tries dirty trick against its own employees don't deserve or money or respect. So yea feck them
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
zf
Profile Joined April 2011
231 Posts
May 20 2013 20:56 GMT
#30
On May 21 2013 05:52 Djzapz wrote:
Physical and moral victory.

Well, except that you'll be eating pizza. :-p
.kv
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2332 Posts
May 20 2013 20:57 GMT
#31
have to realize there are people out there that complain just for the sake of complaining
Epamynondas
Profile Joined September 2012
387 Posts
May 20 2013 20:57 GMT
#32
On May 21 2013 05:45 Plansix wrote:
The real reason. TL loves drama and drama loves EG. People want to be faux outraged about something that pizza is what they have chosen today. Tomorrow it will be something else.

It comes down to "My opinion is important and I will tell you it because this is the internet." Before, we just didn't buy the pizza and ate pasta for dinner.

If we have learned something from this thread is that pasta is the opposite of pizza.

:D

ilu plansix
Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
May 20 2013 20:57 GMT
#33
On May 21 2013 05:52 Northern_iight wrote:
answer? because jumping onto bandwagons is the cool thing to do!
People here have their opinions, that they're pro gay and shit but in real life, nothing they do reflects their opinions. People say shit (especially on TL/internet) just to stay relevant.

lol what?

I'm not one to start going crazy over CALL THE SPONSORS and such but this thread is disturbingly reactionary. If people object to the company on moral grounds then that's their right. What's all this psychoanalyzing BS about young people and liberals? Having a political opinion makes you a hivemind now?
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
May 20 2013 20:58 GMT
#34
On May 21 2013 05:55 starcraft911 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 05:37 yeeshdontjudgeme wrote:
On May 21 2013 05:34 HelloSon wrote:
I'm going to assume you know nothing about them charging an extra 25c for Obamacare.


Source? Plus, I'm going to tell you that I don't care. That has nothing to do with eSports. I'm not here to argue politics. I'm just here to wonder why the community cares so much about what the sponsors do? It's none of their business. In my opinion, the community should be grateful that a company as large as Papa Johns is supporting them.


Sorry buddy, but when a company comes out and makes a statement that pisses people off, people are more than welcome to express their disdain with their money. Papa John's made an amateur mistake and would have done better to keep their mouth shut. Mixing business and politics is best done in private as you're surely going to piss people off.


Half the country supported Papa John's statements. The other half did not.
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
May 20 2013 20:59 GMT
#35
God OP, are you really so blind as to be unable to answer your own question?

Why should people support companies that don't align with their views? Who are you to tell them otherwise? eSports isn't a charity.
secret - never again
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
May 20 2013 20:59 GMT
#36
On May 21 2013 05:57 Redmark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 05:52 Northern_iight wrote:
answer? because jumping onto bandwagons is the cool thing to do!
People here have their opinions, that they're pro gay and shit but in real life, nothing they do reflects their opinions. People say shit (especially on TL/internet) just to stay relevant.

lol what?

I'm not one to start going crazy over CALL THE SPONSORS and such but this thread is disturbingly reactionary. If people object to the company on moral grounds then that's their right. What's all this psychoanalyzing BS about young people and liberals? Having a political opinion makes you a hivemind now?


He's saying that no one was complaining about PJ here on the SC2 forum, and rarely if ever in the General Forum. But now there's a lot of anger came "out of nowhere" and hence it looks (and is) a very bandwagon thing.
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
yeeshdontjudgeme
Profile Joined August 2012
146 Posts
May 20 2013 21:00 GMT
#37
On May 21 2013 05:55 starcraft911 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 05:37 yeeshdontjudgeme wrote:
On May 21 2013 05:34 HelloSon wrote:
I'm going to assume you know nothing about them charging an extra 25c for Obamacare.


Source? Plus, I'm going to tell you that I don't care. That has nothing to do with eSports. I'm not here to argue politics. I'm just here to wonder why the community cares so much about what the sponsors do? It's none of their business. In my opinion, the community should be grateful that a company as large as Papa Johns is supporting them.


Sorry buddy, but when a company comes out and makes a statement that pisses people off, people are more than welcome to express their disdain with their money. Papa John's made an amateur mistake and would have done better to keep their mouth shut. Mixing business and politics is best done in private as you're surely going to piss people off.


But people should be think a little and just remember that people in companies have opinions as well. Yes, it's best for those companies to keep their opinions to themselves, but people should be smart and realize that everyone is entitled to their opinions. To be honest, until I see a gay man get lynched by Papa Johns or find an event where Papa Johns officials literally harassed a homosexual employee, I don't see any problem with associating eSports with such a big company. I've never seen an incident where Papa Johns fired a homosexual employee or anything heinous like that. I only saw opinions, opinions that every person is entitled to.
I'm a strict equalist. If a female wants to be treated equal to men, then that smack they just delivered will be returned promptly.
suicideyear
Profile Joined December 2012
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-20 21:01:14
May 20 2013 21:00 GMT
#38
On May 21 2013 05:57 .kv wrote:
have to realize there are people out there that complain just for the sake of complaining


no one can ever have a legitimate gripe right
it's always just people complaining for the sake of it
always

the scene is so obsessed with trying to become mainstream~ that it's willing to bend over for any shitty company who waves a couple dollar bills

just as papa john's is allowed to have their opinions i'm allowed to have the opinion that this is stupid
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 20 2013 21:00 GMT
#39
On May 21 2013 05:57 Redmark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 05:52 Northern_iight wrote:
answer? because jumping onto bandwagons is the cool thing to do!
People here have their opinions, that they're pro gay and shit but in real life, nothing they do reflects their opinions. People say shit (especially on TL/internet) just to stay relevant.

lol what?

I'm not one to start going crazy over CALL THE SPONSORS and such but this thread is disturbingly reactionary. If people object to the company on moral grounds then that's their right. What's all this psychoanalyzing BS about young people and liberals? Having a political opinion makes you a hivemind now?

Its pizza. They are sponsored by pizza who's owner happened to have an opinion that he made public and some people didn't like. But at the end of the day, its still pizza.

As my father would say: "This? This is the thing we have decided to care about today?"
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Quakecomm
Profile Joined April 2012
United States344 Posts
May 20 2013 21:03 GMT
#40
On May 21 2013 05:49 yeeshdontjudgeme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 05:46 HelloSon wrote:
On May 21 2013 05:37 yeeshdontjudgeme wrote:
On May 21 2013 05:34 HelloSon wrote:
I'm going to assume you know nothing about them charging an extra 25c for Obamacare.


Source? Plus, I'm going to tell you that I don't care. That has nothing to do with eSports. I'm not here to argue politics. I'm just here to wonder why the community cares so much about what the sponsors do? It's none of their business. In my opinion, the community should be grateful that a company as large as Papa Johns is supporting them.

So you don't care whatever Papa John's does yet you don't understand why people don't support PJ's? That makes sense.


Missed the point. I said I don't understand why people care so much about what PJ does or what their opinions are. It's NONE of their business and as I've said repeatedly people AND companies are entitled their opinions. I don't understand why people are just demonizing Papa Johns for stating their opinion. Plus, they're acting like their opinion is the popular. You forget that half of the USA still agrees with Papa Johns.

A little less than half
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