EPTPeople here have their opinions, that they're pro gay and shit but in real life, nothing they do reflects their opinions. People say shit (especially on TL/internet) just to stay relevant.
Why are people against Papa Johns? - Page 2
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Northern_iight
Canada363 Posts
People here have their opinions, that they're pro gay and shit but in real life, nothing they do reflects their opinions. People say shit (especially on TL/internet) just to stay relevant. | ||
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Thieving Magpie
United States6752 Posts
On May 21 2013 05:31 yeeshdontjudgeme wrote: I never thought I'd see the day when eSports fans are actually criticizing the sponsors themselves for their OPINIONS rather than their ACTIONS. But here we are now... Why are people so against Papa Johns supporting eSports? From what I heard, officials at Papa Johns have expressed controversial opinions such as not supporting "ObamaCare" or universal health-care or have been accused of being anti-homosexual. Whether it's true or not is not what I'm interested in. I'm just wondering why in the hell does this community care? Papa Johns has supported eSports in the past and is supporting it today so this isn't their first time their dabbling into eSports, thus this isn't some convoluted scheme to raise popular opinion towards them. Besides raising popular opinion on something as small as esports (no offense) isn't the right way to do it. Officials at Papa Johns may have some controversial opinions, but in my opinion that shouldn't matter to people. Everyone, including officials at multi-million dollar companies are entitled to their own opinions. And from the looks of it, Papa Johns has never done anything to harass or fire employees that are openly homosexual and Papa Johns officials have merely stated their OWN OPINIONS on anti-gay marriage, etc. The Obama Care issue is really confusing me because basically Papa Johns did nothing but state their opinions on it. I don't know why people are getting up in arms about their opinion. Basically, I'm FOR Papa Johns joining eSports. I understand that Papa Johns may have a controversial resume, but from what I've seen their "disgusting actions" were merely officials stating their opinions. Seeing as though a many of us are from countries that protect the right to opinion, I'm appalled at the community for being so against a company just SIMPLY for their opinions. The reason is because so long as Americans publicly hate a political enemy, they will feel better about their own hypocrisies. | ||
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_SpiRaL_
Afghanistan1636 Posts
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
Physical and moral victory. | ||
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yeeshdontjudgeme
146 Posts
On May 21 2013 05:45 Hitch-22 wrote: This guy doesn't care so why the fuck should we! Personally it's no fray for me but any thinking man would find PJ's a bit ridiculous for their position on Obamacare. So half of the United States doesn't think? Way to be unbiased. /sarcasm | ||
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suicideyear
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
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danl9rm
United States3111 Posts
On May 21 2013 05:45 Hitch-22 wrote: This guy doesn't care so why the fuck should we! Personally it's no fray for me but any thinking man would find PJ's a bit ridiculous for their position on Obamacare. Brilliant! Now, anyone that doesn't agree with you doesn't think. To the OP: An idea is a powerful thing. | ||
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starcraft911
Korea (South)1263 Posts
On May 21 2013 05:37 yeeshdontjudgeme wrote: Source? Plus, I'm going to tell you that I don't care. That has nothing to do with eSports. I'm not here to argue politics. I'm just here to wonder why the community cares so much about what the sponsors do? It's none of their business. In my opinion, the community should be grateful that a company as large as Papa Johns is supporting them. Sorry buddy, but when a company comes out and makes a statement that pisses people off, people are more than welcome to express their disdain with their money. Papa John's made an amateur mistake and would have done better to keep their mouth shut. Mixing business and politics is best done in private as you're surely going to piss people off. | ||
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Benjamin99
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zf
231 Posts
On May 21 2013 05:52 Djzapz wrote: Physical and moral victory. Well, except that you'll be eating pizza. :-p | ||
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.kv
United States2332 Posts
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Epamynondas
387 Posts
On May 21 2013 05:45 Plansix wrote: The real reason. TL loves drama and drama loves EG. People want to be faux outraged about something that pizza is what they have chosen today. Tomorrow it will be something else. It comes down to "My opinion is important and I will tell you it because this is the internet." Before, we just didn't buy the pizza and ate pasta for dinner. If we have learned something from this thread is that pasta is the opposite of pizza. :D ilu plansix | ||
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Redmark
Canada2129 Posts
On May 21 2013 05:52 Northern_iight wrote: answer? because jumping onto bandwagons is the cool thing to do! People here have their opinions, that they're pro gay and shit but in real life, nothing they do reflects their opinions. People say shit (especially on TL/internet) just to stay relevant. lol what? I'm not one to start going crazy over CALL THE SPONSORS and such but this thread is disturbingly reactionary. If people object to the company on moral grounds then that's their right. What's all this psychoanalyzing BS about young people and liberals? Having a political opinion makes you a hivemind now? | ||
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Thieving Magpie
United States6752 Posts
On May 21 2013 05:55 starcraft911 wrote: Sorry buddy, but when a company comes out and makes a statement that pisses people off, people are more than welcome to express their disdain with their money. Papa John's made an amateur mistake and would have done better to keep their mouth shut. Mixing business and politics is best done in private as you're surely going to piss people off. Half the country supported Papa John's statements. The other half did not. | ||
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ch33psh33p
7650 Posts
Why should people support companies that don't align with their views? Who are you to tell them otherwise? eSports isn't a charity. | ||
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Thieving Magpie
United States6752 Posts
On May 21 2013 05:57 Redmark wrote: lol what? I'm not one to start going crazy over CALL THE SPONSORS and such but this thread is disturbingly reactionary. If people object to the company on moral grounds then that's their right. What's all this psychoanalyzing BS about young people and liberals? Having a political opinion makes you a hivemind now? He's saying that no one was complaining about PJ here on the SC2 forum, and rarely if ever in the General Forum. But now there's a lot of anger came "out of nowhere" and hence it looks (and is) a very bandwagon thing. | ||
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yeeshdontjudgeme
146 Posts
On May 21 2013 05:55 starcraft911 wrote: Sorry buddy, but when a company comes out and makes a statement that pisses people off, people are more than welcome to express their disdain with their money. Papa John's made an amateur mistake and would have done better to keep their mouth shut. Mixing business and politics is best done in private as you're surely going to piss people off. But people should be think a little and just remember that people in companies have opinions as well. Yes, it's best for those companies to keep their opinions to themselves, but people should be smart and realize that everyone is entitled to their opinions. To be honest, until I see a gay man get lynched by Papa Johns or find an event where Papa Johns officials literally harassed a homosexual employee, I don't see any problem with associating eSports with such a big company. I've never seen an incident where Papa Johns fired a homosexual employee or anything heinous like that. I only saw opinions, opinions that every person is entitled to. | ||
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suicideyear
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
On May 21 2013 05:57 .kv wrote: have to realize there are people out there that complain just for the sake of complaining no one can ever have a legitimate gripe right it's always just people complaining for the sake of it always the scene is so obsessed with trying to become mainstream~ that it's willing to bend over for any shitty company who waves a couple dollar bills just as papa john's is allowed to have their opinions i'm allowed to have the opinion that this is stupid | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On May 21 2013 05:57 Redmark wrote: lol what? I'm not one to start going crazy over CALL THE SPONSORS and such but this thread is disturbingly reactionary. If people object to the company on moral grounds then that's their right. What's all this psychoanalyzing BS about young people and liberals? Having a political opinion makes you a hivemind now? Its pizza. They are sponsored by pizza who's owner happened to have an opinion that he made public and some people didn't like. But at the end of the day, its still pizza. As my father would say: "This? This is the thing we have decided to care about today?" | ||
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Quakecomm
United States344 Posts
On May 21 2013 05:49 yeeshdontjudgeme wrote: Missed the point. I said I don't understand why people care so much about what PJ does or what their opinions are. It's NONE of their business and as I've said repeatedly people AND companies are entitled their opinions. I don't understand why people are just demonizing Papa Johns for stating their opinion. Plus, they're acting like their opinion is the popular. You forget that half of the USA still agrees with Papa Johns. A little less than half  | ||
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