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OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
May 20 2013 21:57 GMT
#181
On May 21 2013 06:53 yeeshdontjudgeme wrote:
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On May 21 2013 06:51 darthfoley wrote:
On May 21 2013 05:31 yeeshdontjudgeme wrote:
I never thought I'd see the day when eSports fans are actually criticizing the sponsors themselves for their OPINIONS rather than their ACTIONS. But here we are now... Why are people so against Papa Johns supporting eSports?

From what I heard, officials at Papa Johns have expressed controversial opinions such as not supporting "ObamaCare" or universal health-care or have been accused of being anti-homosexual. Whether it's true or not is not what I'm interested in. I'm just wondering why in the hell does this community care?

Papa Johns has supported eSports in the past and is supporting it today so this isn't their first time their dabbling into eSports, thus this isn't some convoluted scheme to raise popular opinion towards them. Besides raising popular opinion on something as small as esports (no offense) isn't the right way to do it.

Officials at Papa Johns may have some controversial opinions, but in my opinion that shouldn't matter to people. Everyone, including officials at multi-million dollar companies are entitled to their own opinions. And from the looks of it, Papa Johns has never done anything to harass or fire employees that are openly homosexual and Papa Johns officials have merely stated their OWN OPINIONS on anti-gay marriage, etc. The Obama Care issue is really confusing me because basically Papa Johns did nothing but state their opinions on it. I don't know why people are getting up in arms about their opinion.

Basically, I'm FOR Papa Johns joining eSports. I understand that Papa Johns may have a controversial resume, but from what I've seen their "disgusting actions" were merely officials stating their opinions. Seeing as though a many of us are from countries that protect the right to opinion, I'm appalled at the community for being so against a company just SIMPLY for their opinions.

Papa Johns has never discriminated against homosexuals when hiring employees nor has it denied service to homosexuals. They stated OPINIONS. Are we really boycotting a company for utilizing their right to an opinion. That makes about as sense as denying the Salvation Army from helping the poor and charities just simply because they're openly religious. I'm all for boycotting if Papa Johns has committed anti-homosexual practices, but until you find that, I'm only seeing people boycott a company simply because an employee or two had a few controversial opinions. Grow up people and actually boycott the real problems in this world. Not some imaginary problems like a guy's opinion.

And you know what's really funny about all of this? I'm liberal and I still support Papa Johns.

Now the hipsters come out and say the community is too obsessed with being mainstream. I guess those years when SC1 community was pretty much dead was so much better than now /sarcasm


Lol yes you can definitely boycott something because of their opinions. Idek why you brought that up


Because they never did anything openly anti-gay except expressing their opinions. With your logic, we should boycott the Salvation Army because they're openly Christian and pushing their Christian views on others.


Why yes, yes I do boycott the Salvation Army because of their views. Holy shit! So do other people and that's their fucking right! How is this hard to grasp? You can have your opinion, if you want to openly throw it around and I think it's trash I might decide the world would be a better place if you didn't get a dime from me ever again. This seriously can't be this hard to understand.
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GaNgStaRR.ElV
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada535 Posts
May 20 2013 21:58 GMT
#182
On May 21 2013 06:52 Djzapz wrote:
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On May 21 2013 06:42 Vindicare605 wrote:
On May 21 2013 06:39 yeeshdontjudgeme wrote:
On May 21 2013 06:38 suicideyear wrote:
On May 21 2013 06:35 Yergidy wrote:
On May 21 2013 05:34 HelloSon wrote:
I'm going to assume you know nothing about them charging an extra 25c for Obamacare.

When companies have extra costs it's the customers who always suffer.


twenty five cents


25cents is an arm and leg bro. These liberals need to save money anyway they can.


This post is hilarious.

We're the ones arguing that 25 cents is no big deal and that PJ is a bad company for refusing to provide healthcare for their workers because it would cost them 25 cents a pizza.

I'd gladly pay an extra 25 cents for a Pizza if I knew it was helping to pay for the healthcare of all of the workers of the company.

I'll just as easily boycott a company that will refuse to make that raise in prices at the cost of their worker benefits.

It isn't the liberals bitching about the extra 25 cents. It's actually the opposite.

I don't know. I'm what Americans strangely call a "liberal" because I'm on the left, and I'm opposed to this "25c". Dummies don't understand that it actually has nothing to do with the 25 cents, people couldn't care less about 25 cents. It's entirely symbolic.

The reason why I don't like it is because of how seemingly angry he was about having to pay for its underpaid employees's healthcare. The big guy, he can check himself into the best hospitals and get top 0.1% world class doctors and surgeons on his case. His employees, they'd die from being uninsured and he'd never hear about it. And he has the guts to come out and publicly and denounce this humanitarian push in the name of profit?

Raise your prices if you want to but don't publicly announce that you're doing it for disgusting reasons. Now we all know that Papa John's prices were raised because he can't be bothered to even pretend that he gives a fuck about the well-being of his employees.


Sorry but why the fuck should you get healthcare coverage for making pizza. Maybe the driver....
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16105 Posts
May 20 2013 21:58 GMT
#183
On May 21 2013 06:54 yeeshdontjudgeme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 06:52 Vindicare605 wrote:
On May 21 2013 06:47 yeeshdontjudgeme wrote:
On May 21 2013 06:46 tsangan wrote:
On May 21 2013 06:36 Dundron2000 wrote:
The more companies that want to sponsor e-sports the better. Who cares what Papa Johns did? Maybe after the community has the luxury of choosing between different competing sponsors can we start making consumer choices based on ethics. But first we need them to hand over their sponsorship cash.. so don't blow it..

I guess you're the type that just bends over backwards


I guess you're the type to be hipster. Because being hipster worked so well for the Counter-Strike scene. /sarcasm


Oh come off of it.

It isn't like Papa Johns is directly supporting the entire scene, they're supporting two of the already most successful foreign teams in the world as well as a few of their individual players.

Tell you what, you continue supporting e-sports by buying their pizza and I'll keep doing it by supporting the smaller up and coming North American teams by giving them ad revenue on twitch and helping promote their players on twitter.


You know what drives the big sports leagues? Popular teams. If there was no Michael Jordan, the NBA wouldn't be as popular as it is today. If there was no New York Yankees, MLB wouldn't be so popular. You can't tell me small teams are what drives the popular leagues.


I don't need to buy Papa Johns Pizza to support EG and TL. I do that already just by being here on TL, buying their shirts, pre-ordering HoTS through their Amazon link and watching major tournament streams through TL's sidebar.

I can just as easily boycott Papa Johns and continue to support TL. EG and SC2 while doing so. Trying to guilt trip people into supporting Papa Johns because "OMG ESPORTS" is stupid, they're just another avenue out of for people to lend their support.
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imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
May 20 2013 21:58 GMT
#184
On May 21 2013 06:56 Wingblade wrote:
I feel like Americans(maybe others too, but I know this for sure in America), are so absorbed in their ideologies and opinions on topics that might not even affect them that they let that disrupt their ability to do certain things that are completely unrelated to the problem itself. The social issue of gay marriage should have no effecton your ability to eat Chick Fil A or Papa Johns. Eating the chicken or the pizza is completely irrelevant to the issue itself.


giving money to a company that endorses and sponsors certain opinions is relevant. Or I could sell you some wonderful afghan products directly financing the talibans, but, hey, it doesn't matter?
Zest fanboy.
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
May 20 2013 21:58 GMT
#185
so i read that forbes link on the earlier pages and it was mentioned that this guy actually owns only 25% of the company. what if the other 75% had the opposite opinion? would people still boycott papa john's? where would u draw the line?
yeeshdontjudgeme
Profile Joined August 2012
146 Posts
May 20 2013 21:58 GMT
#186
On May 21 2013 06:57 Blargh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 06:55 Dundron2000 wrote:
On May 21 2013 06:46 tsangan wrote:
On May 21 2013 06:36 Dundron2000 wrote:
The more companies that want to sponsor e-sports the better. Who cares what Papa Johns did? Maybe after the community has the luxury of choosing between different competing sponsors can we start making consumer choices based on ethics. But first we need them to hand over their sponsorship cash.. so don't blow it..

I guess you're the type that just bends over backwards


Do you have a cell-phone? because if you do you are supporting an industry that literally fuels war and mass-rape over rare earth minerals in the Congo. I have a cell-phone. I have clothes that were made in factories that might topple down at any minute and maim everyone inside them. I eat meat at a rate that is ruining the environment completely, and when i try to cut down i eat soy meat that is grown on burned amazon rain forest. I fly on vacations to other continent even though it's terrible. But at least I'm not a hypocritical Internet asshole.

No you just made yourself look like a terrible person.


No he just told the truth and don't act like you or most of the people in this thread do the same thing. I do the same thing. Quit acting like you're a saint or anyone else in the thread is a saint.
I'm a strict equalist. If a female wants to be treated equal to men, then that smack they just delivered will be returned promptly.
StayPhrosty
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada406 Posts
May 20 2013 21:59 GMT
#187
On May 21 2013 06:55 Dundron2000 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 06:46 tsangan wrote:
On May 21 2013 06:36 Dundron2000 wrote:
The more companies that want to sponsor e-sports the better. Who cares what Papa Johns did? Maybe after the community has the luxury of choosing between different competing sponsors can we start making consumer choices based on ethics. But first we need them to hand over their sponsorship cash.. so don't blow it..

I guess you're the type that just bends over backwards


Do you have a cell-phone? because if you do you are supporting an industry that literally fuels war and mass-rape over rare earth minerals in the Congo. I have a cell-phone. I have clothes that were made in factories that might topple down at any minute and maim everyone inside them. I eat meat at a rate that is ruining the environment completely, and when i try to cut down i eat soy meat that is grown on burned amazon rain forest. I fly on vacations to other continent even though it's terrible. But at least I'm not a hypocritical Internet asshole.

Yeah, I mean, Hitler seems really good for the German economy, so just ignore everything else about him ans support him because we need the money first, THEN we can start caring about the less fortunate people...
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18839 Posts
May 20 2013 21:59 GMT
#188
On May 21 2013 06:56 Wingblade wrote:
I feel like Americans(maybe others too, but I know this for sure in America), are so absorbed in their ideologies and opinions on topics that might not even affect them that they let that disrupt their ability to do certain things that are completely unrelated to the problem itself. The social issue of gay marriage should have no effecton your ability to eat Chick Fil A or Papa Johns. Eating the chicken or the pizza is completely irrelevant to the issue itself.

You are clearly too absorbed in your ideology of not associating consumer actions with social issues.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
May 20 2013 21:59 GMT
#189
On May 21 2013 06:58 GaNgStaRR.ElV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 06:52 Djzapz wrote:
On May 21 2013 06:42 Vindicare605 wrote:
On May 21 2013 06:39 yeeshdontjudgeme wrote:
On May 21 2013 06:38 suicideyear wrote:
On May 21 2013 06:35 Yergidy wrote:
On May 21 2013 05:34 HelloSon wrote:
I'm going to assume you know nothing about them charging an extra 25c for Obamacare.

When companies have extra costs it's the customers who always suffer.


twenty five cents


25cents is an arm and leg bro. These liberals need to save money anyway they can.


This post is hilarious.

We're the ones arguing that 25 cents is no big deal and that PJ is a bad company for refusing to provide healthcare for their workers because it would cost them 25 cents a pizza.

I'd gladly pay an extra 25 cents for a Pizza if I knew it was helping to pay for the healthcare of all of the workers of the company.

I'll just as easily boycott a company that will refuse to make that raise in prices at the cost of their worker benefits.

It isn't the liberals bitching about the extra 25 cents. It's actually the opposite.

I don't know. I'm what Americans strangely call a "liberal" because I'm on the left, and I'm opposed to this "25c". Dummies don't understand that it actually has nothing to do with the 25 cents, people couldn't care less about 25 cents. It's entirely symbolic.

The reason why I don't like it is because of how seemingly angry he was about having to pay for its underpaid employees's healthcare. The big guy, he can check himself into the best hospitals and get top 0.1% world class doctors and surgeons on his case. His employees, they'd die from being uninsured and he'd never hear about it. And he has the guts to come out and publicly and denounce this humanitarian push in the name of profit?

Raise your prices if you want to but don't publicly announce that you're doing it for disgusting reasons. Now we all know that Papa John's prices were raised because he can't be bothered to even pretend that he gives a fuck about the well-being of his employees.


Sorry but why the fuck should you get healthcare coverage for making pizza. Maybe the driver....

You're Canadian, you get healthcare coverage for not doing shit. Why should you?
Because it's a good idea to not let people die, we're not beasts. Maybe you are...
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
May 20 2013 22:00 GMT
#190
On May 21 2013 06:57 Blargh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 06:55 Dundron2000 wrote:
On May 21 2013 06:46 tsangan wrote:
On May 21 2013 06:36 Dundron2000 wrote:
The more companies that want to sponsor e-sports the better. Who cares what Papa Johns did? Maybe after the community has the luxury of choosing between different competing sponsors can we start making consumer choices based on ethics. But first we need them to hand over their sponsorship cash.. so don't blow it..

I guess you're the type that just bends over backwards


Do you have a cell-phone? because if you do you are supporting an industry that literally fuels war and mass-rape over rare earth minerals in the Congo. I have a cell-phone. I have clothes that were made in factories that might topple down at any minute and maim everyone inside them. I eat meat at a rate that is ruining the environment completely, and when i try to cut down i eat soy meat that is grown on burned amazon rain forest. I fly on vacations to other continent even though it's terrible. But at least I'm not a hypocritical Internet asshole.

No you just made yourself look like a terrible person.


How?

Because he uses cell phones, buys clothes and eats meat?
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
Asymmetric
Profile Joined June 2011
Scotland1309 Posts
May 20 2013 22:00 GMT
#191
Why would I want to support anything that actively aids the sales of papa john pizza's, which indirectly is used for there lobbying.
Lumi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1616 Posts
May 20 2013 22:00 GMT
#192
On May 21 2013 06:55 Dundron2000 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 06:46 tsangan wrote:
On May 21 2013 06:36 Dundron2000 wrote:
The more companies that want to sponsor e-sports the better. Who cares what Papa Johns did? Maybe after the community has the luxury of choosing between different competing sponsors can we start making consumer choices based on ethics. But first we need them to hand over their sponsorship cash.. so don't blow it..

I guess you're the type that just bends over backwards


Do you have a cell-phone? because if you do you are supporting an industry that literally fuels war and mass-rape over rare earth minerals in the Congo. I have a cell-phone. I have clothes that were made in factories that might topple down at any minute and maim everyone inside them. I eat meat at a rate that is ruining the environment completely, and when i try to cut down i eat soy meat that is grown on burned amazon rain forest. I fly on vacations to other continent even though it's terrible. But at least I'm not a hypocritical Internet asshole.


You seem to think you have a point here. Instead, I'm mildly bored thata you would even attempt to advocate one wrong by pointing to others that we do. You would have us think that it makes no difference and me may as well support every awful thing because we already support some? You might not be hypocritical, or an internet asshole; but your thinking here is preposterous.
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Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
May 20 2013 22:00 GMT
#193
On May 21 2013 06:59 StayPhrosty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 06:55 Dundron2000 wrote:
On May 21 2013 06:46 tsangan wrote:
On May 21 2013 06:36 Dundron2000 wrote:
The more companies that want to sponsor e-sports the better. Who cares what Papa Johns did? Maybe after the community has the luxury of choosing between different competing sponsors can we start making consumer choices based on ethics. But first we need them to hand over their sponsorship cash.. so don't blow it..

I guess you're the type that just bends over backwards


Do you have a cell-phone? because if you do you are supporting an industry that literally fuels war and mass-rape over rare earth minerals in the Congo. I have a cell-phone. I have clothes that were made in factories that might topple down at any minute and maim everyone inside them. I eat meat at a rate that is ruining the environment completely, and when i try to cut down i eat soy meat that is grown on burned amazon rain forest. I fly on vacations to other continent even though it's terrible. But at least I'm not a hypocritical Internet asshole.

Yeah, I mean, Hitler seems really good for the German economy, so just ignore everything else about him ans support him because we need the money first, THEN we can start caring about the less fortunate people...


Shut up and take our money!
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yeeshdontjudgeme
Profile Joined August 2012
146 Posts
May 20 2013 22:00 GMT
#194
On May 21 2013 06:58 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 06:56 Wingblade wrote:
I feel like Americans(maybe others too, but I know this for sure in America), are so absorbed in their ideologies and opinions on topics that might not even affect them that they let that disrupt their ability to do certain things that are completely unrelated to the problem itself. The social issue of gay marriage should have no effecton your ability to eat Chick Fil A or Papa Johns. Eating the chicken or the pizza is completely irrelevant to the issue itself.


giving money to a company that endorses and sponsors certain opinions is relevant. Or I could sell you some wonderful afghan products directly financing the talibans, but, hey, it doesn't matter?


Papa Johns doesn't directly finance efforts to curb Obama Care or Gay marriage. Terrible comparison. There's a difference between ACTION and OPINIONS. You clearly don't understand that.
I'm a strict equalist. If a female wants to be treated equal to men, then that smack they just delivered will be returned promptly.
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
May 20 2013 22:00 GMT
#195
On May 21 2013 06:57 yeeshdontjudgeme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 06:55 farvacola wrote:
On May 21 2013 06:53 yeeshdontjudgeme wrote:
On May 21 2013 06:51 darthfoley wrote:
On May 21 2013 05:31 yeeshdontjudgeme wrote:
I never thought I'd see the day when eSports fans are actually criticizing the sponsors themselves for their OPINIONS rather than their ACTIONS. But here we are now... Why are people so against Papa Johns supporting eSports?

From what I heard, officials at Papa Johns have expressed controversial opinions such as not supporting "ObamaCare" or universal health-care or have been accused of being anti-homosexual. Whether it's true or not is not what I'm interested in. I'm just wondering why in the hell does this community care?

Papa Johns has supported eSports in the past and is supporting it today so this isn't their first time their dabbling into eSports, thus this isn't some convoluted scheme to raise popular opinion towards them. Besides raising popular opinion on something as small as esports (no offense) isn't the right way to do it.

Officials at Papa Johns may have some controversial opinions, but in my opinion that shouldn't matter to people. Everyone, including officials at multi-million dollar companies are entitled to their own opinions. And from the looks of it, Papa Johns has never done anything to harass or fire employees that are openly homosexual and Papa Johns officials have merely stated their OWN OPINIONS on anti-gay marriage, etc. The Obama Care issue is really confusing me because basically Papa Johns did nothing but state their opinions on it. I don't know why people are getting up in arms about their opinion.

Basically, I'm FOR Papa Johns joining eSports. I understand that Papa Johns may have a controversial resume, but from what I've seen their "disgusting actions" were merely officials stating their opinions. Seeing as though a many of us are from countries that protect the right to opinion, I'm appalled at the community for being so against a company just SIMPLY for their opinions.

Papa Johns has never discriminated against homosexuals when hiring employees nor has it denied service to homosexuals. They stated OPINIONS. Are we really boycotting a company for utilizing their right to an opinion. That makes about as sense as denying the Salvation Army from helping the poor and charities just simply because they're openly religious. I'm all for boycotting if Papa Johns has committed anti-homosexual practices, but until you find that, I'm only seeing people boycott a company simply because an employee or two had a few controversial opinions. Grow up people and actually boycott the real problems in this world. Not some imaginary problems like a guy's opinion.

And you know what's really funny about all of this? I'm liberal and I still support Papa Johns.

Now the hipsters come out and say the community is too obsessed with being mainstream. I guess those years when SC1 community was pretty much dead was so much better than now /sarcasm


Lol yes you can definitely boycott something because of their opinions. Idek why you brought that up


Because they never did anything openly anti-gay except expressing their opinions. With your logic, we should boycott the Salvation Army because they're openly Christian and pushing their Christian views on others.

They don't push their Christian views on anyone, I've volunteered there and can personally attest to this as we gave clothing to muslim families and atheists in addition to Christians, totally bereft of any preaching.


They have been accused of doing such practices. Maybe not in your part of the organization, but the organization as a whole isn't perfect. However, I still support organizations like the Salvation Army nonetheless because of how much the good overrides the ugly.

Also a bunch of anti-gay and trans stuff.

Basically, they weren't the best example to use.
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Dundron2000
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1140 Posts
May 20 2013 22:01 GMT
#196
On May 21 2013 06:57 Blargh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 06:55 Dundron2000 wrote:
On May 21 2013 06:46 tsangan wrote:
On May 21 2013 06:36 Dundron2000 wrote:
The more companies that want to sponsor e-sports the better. Who cares what Papa Johns did? Maybe after the community has the luxury of choosing between different competing sponsors can we start making consumer choices based on ethics. But first we need them to hand over their sponsorship cash.. so don't blow it..

I guess you're the type that just bends over backwards


Do you have a cell-phone? because if you do you are supporting an industry that literally fuels war and mass-rape over rare earth minerals in the Congo. I have a cell-phone. I have clothes that were made in factories that might topple down at any minute and maim everyone inside them. I eat meat at a rate that is ruining the environment completely, and when i try to cut down i eat soy meat that is grown on burned amazon rain forest. I fly on vacations to other continent even though it's terrible. But at least I'm not a hypocritical Internet asshole.

No you just made yourself look like a terrible person.


The point is we all are, and you can fight your pointless battles to make yourself feel better but your mere existence is categorically bad for the earth.
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McBengt
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1684 Posts
May 20 2013 22:01 GMT
#197
On May 21 2013 06:58 GaNgStaRR.ElV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 06:52 Djzapz wrote:
On May 21 2013 06:42 Vindicare605 wrote:
On May 21 2013 06:39 yeeshdontjudgeme wrote:
On May 21 2013 06:38 suicideyear wrote:
On May 21 2013 06:35 Yergidy wrote:
On May 21 2013 05:34 HelloSon wrote:
I'm going to assume you know nothing about them charging an extra 25c for Obamacare.

When companies have extra costs it's the customers who always suffer.


twenty five cents


25cents is an arm and leg bro. These liberals need to save money anyway they can.


This post is hilarious.

We're the ones arguing that 25 cents is no big deal and that PJ is a bad company for refusing to provide healthcare for their workers because it would cost them 25 cents a pizza.

I'd gladly pay an extra 25 cents for a Pizza if I knew it was helping to pay for the healthcare of all of the workers of the company.

I'll just as easily boycott a company that will refuse to make that raise in prices at the cost of their worker benefits.

It isn't the liberals bitching about the extra 25 cents. It's actually the opposite.

I don't know. I'm what Americans strangely call a "liberal" because I'm on the left, and I'm opposed to this "25c". Dummies don't understand that it actually has nothing to do with the 25 cents, people couldn't care less about 25 cents. It's entirely symbolic.

The reason why I don't like it is because of how seemingly angry he was about having to pay for its underpaid employees's healthcare. The big guy, he can check himself into the best hospitals and get top 0.1% world class doctors and surgeons on his case. His employees, they'd die from being uninsured and he'd never hear about it. And he has the guts to come out and publicly and denounce this humanitarian push in the name of profit?

Raise your prices if you want to but don't publicly announce that you're doing it for disgusting reasons. Now we all know that Papa John's prices were raised because he can't be bothered to even pretend that he gives a fuck about the well-being of his employees.


Sorry but why the fuck should you get healthcare coverage for making pizza. Maybe the driver....

Because people who make pizzas get sick too...?

Seriously, I've read some pretty dumb shit on the internet over the years, but this one stands out.
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turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-20 22:02:51
May 20 2013 22:01 GMT
#198
On May 21 2013 06:58 zev318 wrote:
so i read that forbes link on the earlier pages and it was mentioned that this guy actually owns only 25% of the company. what if the other 75% had the opposite opinion? would people still boycott papa john's? where would u draw the line?


but the shareholders choose the CEO, so they agree with his public opinions by default.

On May 21 2013 06:58 GaNgStaRR.ElV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 06:52 Djzapz wrote:
On May 21 2013 06:42 Vindicare605 wrote:
On May 21 2013 06:39 yeeshdontjudgeme wrote:
On May 21 2013 06:38 suicideyear wrote:
On May 21 2013 06:35 Yergidy wrote:
On May 21 2013 05:34 HelloSon wrote:
I'm going to assume you know nothing about them charging an extra 25c for Obamacare.

When companies have extra costs it's the customers who always suffer.


twenty five cents


25cents is an arm and leg bro. These liberals need to save money anyway they can.


This post is hilarious.

We're the ones arguing that 25 cents is no big deal and that PJ is a bad company for refusing to provide healthcare for their workers because it would cost them 25 cents a pizza.

I'd gladly pay an extra 25 cents for a Pizza if I knew it was helping to pay for the healthcare of all of the workers of the company.

I'll just as easily boycott a company that will refuse to make that raise in prices at the cost of their worker benefits.

It isn't the liberals bitching about the extra 25 cents. It's actually the opposite.

I don't know. I'm what Americans strangely call a "liberal" because I'm on the left, and I'm opposed to this "25c". Dummies don't understand that it actually has nothing to do with the 25 cents, people couldn't care less about 25 cents. It's entirely symbolic.

The reason why I don't like it is because of how seemingly angry he was about having to pay for its underpaid employees's healthcare. The big guy, he can check himself into the best hospitals and get top 0.1% world class doctors and surgeons on his case. His employees, they'd die from being uninsured and he'd never hear about it. And he has the guts to come out and publicly and denounce this humanitarian push in the name of profit?

Raise your prices if you want to but don't publicly announce that you're doing it for disgusting reasons. Now we all know that Papa John's prices were raised because he can't be bothered to even pretend that he gives a fuck about the well-being of his employees.


Sorry but why the fuck should you get healthcare coverage for making pizza. Maybe the driver....


people who only deliver pizza dont deserve to be able to use 911. they should ask for your social security number when you call up to make sure to give you the level of service you are worth.

/s
StayPhrosty
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada406 Posts
May 20 2013 22:01 GMT
#199
On May 21 2013 06:58 GaNgStaRR.ElV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 06:52 Djzapz wrote:
On May 21 2013 06:42 Vindicare605 wrote:
On May 21 2013 06:39 yeeshdontjudgeme wrote:
On May 21 2013 06:38 suicideyear wrote:
On May 21 2013 06:35 Yergidy wrote:
On May 21 2013 05:34 HelloSon wrote:
I'm going to assume you know nothing about them charging an extra 25c for Obamacare.

When companies have extra costs it's the customers who always suffer.


twenty five cents


25cents is an arm and leg bro. These liberals need to save money anyway they can.


This post is hilarious.

We're the ones arguing that 25 cents is no big deal and that PJ is a bad company for refusing to provide healthcare for their workers because it would cost them 25 cents a pizza.

I'd gladly pay an extra 25 cents for a Pizza if I knew it was helping to pay for the healthcare of all of the workers of the company.

I'll just as easily boycott a company that will refuse to make that raise in prices at the cost of their worker benefits.

It isn't the liberals bitching about the extra 25 cents. It's actually the opposite.

I don't know. I'm what Americans strangely call a "liberal" because I'm on the left, and I'm opposed to this "25c". Dummies don't understand that it actually has nothing to do with the 25 cents, people couldn't care less about 25 cents. It's entirely symbolic.

The reason why I don't like it is because of how seemingly angry he was about having to pay for its underpaid employees's healthcare. The big guy, he can check himself into the best hospitals and get top 0.1% world class doctors and surgeons on his case. His employees, they'd die from being uninsured and he'd never hear about it. And he has the guts to come out and publicly and denounce this humanitarian push in the name of profit?

Raise your prices if you want to but don't publicly announce that you're doing it for disgusting reasons. Now we all know that Papa John's prices were raised because he can't be bothered to even pretend that he gives a fuck about the well-being of his employees.


Sorry but why the fuck should you get healthcare coverage for making pizza. Maybe the driver....

Yeah, our children and young adults don't deserve doctors! Fuck them! If they're not driving then they don't really deserve basic human rights... /sarcasm
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yeeshdontjudgeme
Profile Joined August 2012
146 Posts
May 20 2013 22:01 GMT
#200
On May 21 2013 06:59 StayPhrosty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 06:55 Dundron2000 wrote:
On May 21 2013 06:46 tsangan wrote:
On May 21 2013 06:36 Dundron2000 wrote:
The more companies that want to sponsor e-sports the better. Who cares what Papa Johns did? Maybe after the community has the luxury of choosing between different competing sponsors can we start making consumer choices based on ethics. But first we need them to hand over their sponsorship cash.. so don't blow it..

I guess you're the type that just bends over backwards


Do you have a cell-phone? because if you do you are supporting an industry that literally fuels war and mass-rape over rare earth minerals in the Congo. I have a cell-phone. I have clothes that were made in factories that might topple down at any minute and maim everyone inside them. I eat meat at a rate that is ruining the environment completely, and when i try to cut down i eat soy meat that is grown on burned amazon rain forest. I fly on vacations to other continent even though it's terrible. But at least I'm not a hypocritical Internet asshole.

Yeah, I mean, Hitler seems really good for the German economy, so just ignore everything else about him ans support him because we need the money first, THEN we can start caring about the less fortunate people...


Hitler killed people. Papa Johns didn't. Hitler discriminated people. Papa Johns didn't. Both had opinions but only one acted on them. Get the pattern here? *Facepalm*
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