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SPL Casters (SNM/Whiplash) Appreciation/Criticism - Page 13
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Acied
Germany21 Posts
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Misacampo
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Advocado
Denmark994 Posts
Keep working on it, itll come. | ||
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SummaDuality
United States17 Posts
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Special Endrey
Germany1929 Posts
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z0rz
United States350 Posts
Sola transfers 6 drones from his main to his third ~7 minutes into the game and Whiplash thinks Sola is pulling drones to go all-in?! WHAT?! It would have been funny if he said it as a joke "OH MAN HERE COMES THE 7-MINUTE 6-DRONE-PULL ALL-IN I TALKED ABOUT!!" (this is why Tasteless is so good-- his understanding of the pro metagame is pretty poor as well, but he knows enough to turn his ignorance into comedy)... but Whiplash wasn't joking. I can't fathom how anyone that follows professional SC2 would assume all-in rather than standard drone maynarding. | ||
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llIH
Norway2147 Posts
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Thurken
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tomatriedes
New Zealand5356 Posts
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fer
Canada375 Posts
On a somewhat unrelated note, I really have to give a huge shoutout to Nathanias for providing additional commentary for the Proleague games. It's been literally thanks to him that I've been able to follow most of the Proleague teams and matches besides EG-TL. And since then, I've become more emotionally attached with players, teams, and the league itself. LOV U 4-EVER DARK NATHANIAS Lkemas | ||
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Statyk
Canada41 Posts
I think the situation would be salvagable if Whiplash was able to mute SNM's mic before the match; I would prefer periods of silence to hearing SNM's uninformed, or often outright wrong, analysis of what's going on. User was warned for this post | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
And there is the issue of having a good casting voice. Some people just have good casting voices. SNM does not sadly. Do I recommend voice lesson or something? I don't know. Still, I don't think the casting is up to the standards that I would expect from a premier teamleague. | ||
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c0ldfusion
United States8293 Posts
On January 22 2013 03:14 Bagration wrote: Still, I don't think the casting is up to the standards that I would expect from a premier teamleague. That's a big part of it I think. The fans hold proleague to a high standard because it is _the_ team league. If these guys were doing some one-off tournament I don't think they'd receive a shred of criticism. | ||
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E.H Eager
United States227 Posts
I'll watch the cast and I will enjoy it, but it seems a little haphazard/forced. I know this isn't very constructive as criticism goes, but this is just what comes to mind when I think of the casts. It just seems a little bit awkward. I'm sure it'll get better over time and I hope to see both of them get much better! | ||
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edlover420
349 Posts
On January 22 2013 03:14 Statyk wrote: SNM has no personality and is at least partially responsible for killing eSports. C'mon son get da zealot outta here with that marinepoop! | ||
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Jedclark
United Kingdom903 Posts
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Cel.erity
United States4890 Posts
On January 22 2013 03:28 Jedclark wrote: It was silly to hire them. For the most professional and respected team league in SC2, you don't hire casters and say, "Oh, don't worry. They'll get to the required level in time" - they're either at that level, or they don't get the job. I'm guessing there are no more than 3-4 qualified individuals who are willing to accept the job. What's with all these posts that assume there are waves of casters lining up to quit their job/schooling, move to the other side of the world, and get paid slightly more than minimum wage? | ||
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
What I found is that they commented very dull, and basically went play by play only, without giving any valuable insights into the playstyles or builds that we see. If they try to predict or interpret what's strategically happening, they are usually very far off. They lack any kind of synergy and did not add any entertainment value. What they did and what they put much emphasis on, is providing BW background of the players and how they performed in the past SPLs. Unfortunately, I couldn't care less about that (I never followed BW, and if someone sucks at SC2, what's the relevance if they did well in a Proleague three years ago?). Of course that is all my personal perspective and that might have totally changed by now, as I haven't listened to them in the last few weeks. So I might give them another try, considering there are quite a few here saying that they have improved. What's more important to me however, is that the observer they use is not very good (the one on English VODs, don't know about the Korean one, at least compared to Legend and Adebisi). He is often missing important parts of engagements while looking at very unimportant stuff and is in general not highlighting interesting stuff enough. | ||
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TheDougler
Canada8320 Posts
On January 22 2013 01:01 y0su wrote: Although I agree and prefer that style of casting (and do it myself), the community is pretty split on the issue. Lots of people will say "I can see what's going on, give me analysis" instead. =/ Can't please everyone! You actually can though. You can have one caster for analysis and one for play by play. Starcraft, other e-sports, and regular sports have been doing this for a LONG time. Artosis and Tasteless (GSL Code S), Rotterdam and Mr. Bitter (NASL), and previously Wolf and DOA (GSL Code A), and later DOA and Cats PJs (IPL) are all examples of an analyst and a play by play caster combo. | ||
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StarMoon
Canada682 Posts
On January 22 2013 03:32 Cel.erity wrote: I'm guessing there are no more than 3-4 qualified individuals who are willing to accept the job. What's with all these posts that assume there are waves of casters lining up to quit their job/schooling, move to the other side of the world, and get paid slightly more than minimum wage? Doa and... others (don't recall) were going to cast PL, and then KESPA fucked them over. Doa even made a post about it because he thought they wouldn't have an English cast at all. Afterwards, they gave the casting over to the foreign scene (EG, TL, IPL) and they did a good job at first. I wish they just continued to do this. I'll take random IPL casters over these guys. | ||
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