EPTEvery GSL event has had Ro32 terran plurality - Page 2
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dUTtrOACh
Canada2339 Posts
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Martyrc
217 Posts
Then say so, you idiot.... I'm a Terran myself, and imbeciles like you make me ashamed of being one. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Talack
Canada2742 Posts
"Hey guys? Did you hear? The maps are too small, these statistics from GSL season 1 prove it" | ||
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arcane1129
United States271 Posts
On December 02 2012 07:12 peia wrote: if you look at EU ladder 10 % terran, 30 % toss 60 % zerg, and also at IPL the race distribution is a big big joke  EU ladder: http://www.sc2ranks.com/stats/league/eu/1/all KR: (zerg is lowest % in gm and masters actually) http://www.sc2ranks.com/stats/league/fea/1/all Global: http://www.sc2ranks.com/stats/league/all/1/all Who are you trying to fool? | ||
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hootsushi
Germany3468 Posts
On December 02 2012 07:33 Martyrc wrote: Then say so, you idiot.... I'm a Terran myself, and imbeciles like you make me ashamed of being one. Dude, why so rude? He didn't offend anyone. I read his reply and already assumed he meant this year. | ||
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neptunusfisk
2286 Posts
On December 02 2012 07:15 EU.Pink wrote: nice facts about EU ladder bro, can i see source? Actually EU grandmaster has a staggering 20% terran - 54 players! - while zerg only has 101 players. | ||
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NotSorry
United States6722 Posts
On December 02 2012 07:18 xPabt wrote: fixed it for you before someone calls out results from a year or two agoAnd yet only Mvp has been able to make it to the finals in 2012. edit: looks like I was too late | ||
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dUTtrOACh
Canada2339 Posts
On December 02 2012 07:36 hootsushi wrote: Dude, why so rude? He didn't offend anyone. I read his reply and already assumed he meant this year. I didn't assume he meant this year, but I did assume that he missed a BUNCH of seasons. | ||
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FeyverN
United States104 Posts
On December 02 2012 07:12 peia wrote: this is because earlier, terran WAS the strongest race, ´but until mid 2012 terran has got the weakest (imao) and because earlier there were so many terrans because it was the strongest race, there still is this big MASS of korean terrans, who are still pretty good at the game, they belong into code S, and if you look at EU ladder 10 % terran, 30 % toss 60 % zerg, and also at IPL the race distribution is a big big joke 10% Terran? I've never heard about this. From what I've seen on the EU ladder (1000 point masters), there is a pretty even distribution of the races. http://sc2ranks.com/stats/league/all/1/all As you can see, it seems pretty even overall. There is a slight bias towards Zerg in Grandmasters, but who's to say thats due to imbalance? As someone who played on NA and now plays on EU regularly, I can say that the NA ladder is really Zerg biased, but the EU ladder is surprisingly balanced in terms of race distribution. Maybe you have bad luck, I don't know. | ||
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Lunares
United States909 Posts
As people have stated this is most likely due to more terran players. And that's my point. The game is NOT imbalanced. All the shifts have served to change the way the game is played. But it's not like all of a sudden the game is crazy imbalanced towards zerg. Even with the patch the overall race representation hasn't changed that much. Players adapt. This is just a reminder of how slowly player representation changes, even when massive changes (e.g. patch 1.4.3) occur. Just give the game time, enjoy what you watch, and wait for HotS if you are unhappy since there just isn't enough time to change the game by then (unless you just want to imbalance it completely, that's easy). | ||
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chaokel
Australia535 Posts
On December 02 2012 07:40 FeyverN wrote: 10% Terran? I've never heard about this. From what I've seen on the EU ladder (1000 point masters), there is a pretty even distribution of the races. http://sc2ranks.com/stats/league/all/1/all As you can see, it seems pretty even overall. There is a slight bias towards Zerg in Grandmasters, but who's to say thats due to imbalance? As someone who played on NA and now plays on EU regularly, I can say that the NA ladder is really Zerg biased, but the EU ladder is surprisingly balanced in terms of race distribution. Maybe you have bad luck, I don't know. Much more likely he just made up the figures, or heard it at one point from some guy who was trying to backup his balance complaints with false facts. | ||
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Dvriel
607 Posts
Zergs used to play only ling-bane-muta till they discover the all around unit: the infestor.Now we must deal with all this stuff,and Bomber just show it on the IPL its possible without any buffs to Ravens,but still pretty difficult.It requires great multitasking,macro and micro to try equal Zergs macro,and not everyone is able. | ||
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Siphyo
Netherlands121 Posts
![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/6/6c/GSLraceW.png) Personally, I don't think any balance-related conclusions should be drawn from this. | ||
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Cuce
Turkey1127 Posts
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Tachion
Canada8573 Posts
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SKYFISH_
Bulgaria990 Posts
On December 02 2012 07:45 chaokel wrote: Much more likely he just made up the figures, or heard it at one point from some guy who was trying to backup his balance complaints with false facts. Terran was always the least represented race in all leagues above Gold (excluding KR ladder) Actual distributions were something like 40-30-20 with the rest 10% left for randoms and deviations from the norm. | ||
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-Switch-
Canada506 Posts
On December 02 2012 07:15 blade55555 wrote: Tournaments won't switch until release I am pretty sure. I do wish at least some tournaments would happen for hots as it might encourage more pros to play hots at least online cups anyway would be nice >>. how about no blade! | ||
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Zrana
United Kingdom698 Posts
On December 02 2012 07:37 neptunusfisk wrote: Actually EU grandmaster has a staggering 20% terran - 54 players! - while zerg only has 101 players. omg all the "EU ladder has loads of Z, proves Z is OP" posts lately all over like any sc2 forum just make me despair. 1. EU has always had more z, similar to korea having more t. 2. 200 players is a ridiculously small sample size if you want any meaningful statistics. You could just as eaily say, "Zerg is only doing so well because there aren't enough terrans around to challenge them" 3. It's not as if EU GM is exactly the pinnacle of starcraft play. 4. Just because lots of high level players are playing a race doesn't necessarly means it's because the race is OP. If you follow the history of the metagame and patches back there usually aren't all that many people who switch race depending on patch notes or whatever. Imo there's so many zergs around because the HotS changes for zerg look awesome and the changes for P and T look uninspiring to say the least. Also, i'm aware it's against the TL rules to make a post that complain about fungal so to clarify i'm not saying that zerg is or is not OP, just that quoting statistics with no understanding of the data behind them is no way to prove a point. Also omg fungal so op. | ||
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Lunares
United States909 Posts
On December 02 2012 07:52 Siphyo wrote: My graph from liquipedia to support the OPs statement: Personally, I don't think any balance-related conclusions should be drawn from this. Thanks for the graph. The only balance related conclusion I'm trying to make is that there isn't a massive imbalance in the game. Seems like every time we get a mirror final there is just so much balance whine, or with all the patchzerg talk. Trying to point out that it's never the race, it's often just one person going on a hot streak. The actual race distribution just hasn't shifted since the game started basically, despite how differently the matchups play out. This goes to show how slow balance changes as well as how minor the differences are. I would like to think that we should concentrate on changing the game not to change balance, as in which race wins more. We should be changing the game to make matchups more exciting while not favoring a particular race. | ||
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Denzil
United Kingdom4193 Posts
On December 02 2012 07:52 Siphyo wrote: My graph from liquipedia to support the OPs statement: Personally, I don't think any balance-related conclusions should be drawn from this. So because they can't get to a final for once their race is awfully underpowered? | ||
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