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farvacola
United States18866 Posts
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Velr
Switzerland10935 Posts
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Sadist
United States7328 Posts
On January 05 2018 06:40 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: When the nozzle is submerged in gas it stops pumping gas automatically so you can't overfill. Just hold it down and it'll tell you when to stop itself. Ive seen it fail in person before. An old man was pumping at least a couple of gallons down the side of his car before i told him it was overflowing. Im sure the nozzle was in his fuel housing too. It was pretty nuts to see it pouring out of the side of his car. | ||
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brian
United States9642 Posts
jerseys biggest problem is the jug handle left turns though. that shit is infuriating. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24208 Posts
On January 05 2018 06:53 brian wrote: new jersey has the same law, but ive never met someone that actually didn’t know how to pump gas. thanks for the read ^^ It's a different issue in NJ since anyone with a car leaves to other states as frequently as possible. | ||
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brian
United States9642 Posts
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28874 Posts
On January 05 2018 06:35 Nebuchad wrote: The war on drugs of the US is its specific subject, I don't know that it's really comparable to what you do in Norway. It was political and dishonest from the start, and it actively fucks over their own people for benefits that were originally political (targetting of hippie and black voting groups) and are now mainly pharmaceutical I imagine, but were never quite honest. It started as really political and dishonest, but ended up getting popular support. http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/10/12/support-for-marijuana-legalization-continues-to-rise/ft_16-10-11_marijuanalegal_trend/ In the US, in 1969 84% wanted it to be illegal. 1990-ish still 81%. Among 71+ year olds it's still 33% for legalization 59% against. (Or, was in 2016). Among voters identifying as conservative republicans, 2016 numbers were 33% for, 62% against. Sessions is 71 years old and a conservative republican, him genuinely opposing marijuana legalization is entirely on par for his demographic and other political attitudes. I don't see how corruption has to be a factor, at all. I entirely agree that it's extremely stupid, that the war on drugs has been a complete disaster, that marijuana is much better than alcohol, etc etc etc. I just don't agree with attributing his opinion with some sinister motivation behind it, I think he genuinely believes that society is better off not legalizing marijuana, no matter how wrong it is. I think he's genuinely wrong on most issues tbh. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
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Lmui
Canada6223 Posts
On January 05 2018 06:42 Mohdoo wrote: this is what I am like 99% certain of, but I pulled the hose out and felt like I inspected it pretty thoroughly. I was looking for some kinda sensor or some shit to see how it can detect it is full. I couldn't see any sensor and I figured if anyone was to somehow fuck up pumping gas, it is me, so I just opted for taking the less risky approach lol People local to the pacific northwest will likely find my post does a good job at summarizing Oregon. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_dispenser#Automatic_cut-off_in_fuel_dispenser It's quite difficult to have it fail to stop pumping gas given that it's a mostly self-contained mechanism inside the nozzle. Hold the trigger til it stops, and you can either stop there or go up to the nearest 25c or so without any damage to your car. If you pull the trigger again, it'll pump another ounce or two before stopping again, it can damage the fuel evap system if you overfill an excessive amount (Think + 1 litre) and liquid gas gets in there, but it's really, really hard to be that stupid. That's pretty high up on the list of stupid make-work jobs I've heard of. | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
like if it was put in in the 50's or 30's or something; maybe the regulations/safety equipment wasn't as good back then and it might've made some sense originally. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On January 05 2018 06:53 brian wrote: new jersey has the same law, but ive never met someone that actually didn’t know how to pump gas. thanks for the read ^^. jerseys biggest problem is the jug handle left turns though. that shit is infuriating. In Jersey, isn't it also something like it keeps the cost of the station low because they don't have the insurance hassles of customers fucking things up and employees doing it instead? | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24208 Posts
On January 05 2018 07:00 Liquid`Drone wrote: It started as really political and dishonest, but ended up getting popular support. http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/10/12/support-for-marijuana-legalization-continues-to-rise/ft_16-10-11_marijuanalegal_trend/ In the US, in 1969 84% wanted it to be illegal. 1990-ish still 81%. Among 71+ year olds it's still 33% for legalization 59% against. (Or, was in 2016). Among voters identifying as conservative republicans, 2016 numbers were 33% for, 62% against. Sessions is 71 years old and a conservative republican, him genuinely opposing marijuana legalization is entirely on par for his demographic and other political attitudes. I don't see how corruption has to be a factor, at all. I entirely agree that it's extremely stupid, that the war on drugs has been a complete disaster, that marijuana is much better than alcohol, etc etc etc. I just don't agree with attributing his opinion with some sinister motivation behind it, I think he genuinely believes that society is better off not legalizing marijuana, no matter how wrong it is. I think he's genuinely wrong on most issues tbh. Because the alternative is that he is obstinately opposed to facts, evidence, and science despite a life presumably predicated at least on facts and evidence. | ||
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IgnE
United States7681 Posts
On January 05 2018 07:05 Lmui wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_dispenser#Automatic_cut-off_in_fuel_dispenser It's quite difficult to have it fail to stop pumping gas given that it's a mostly self-contained mechanism inside the nozzle. Hold the trigger til it stops, and you can either stop there or go up to the nearest 25c or so without any damage to your car. If you pull the trigger again, it'll pump another ounce or two before stopping again, it can damage the fuel evap system if you overfill an excessive amount (Think + 1 litre) and liquid gas gets in there, but it's really, really hard to be that stupid. That's pretty high up on the list of stupid make-work jobs I've heard of. you know what another stupid make-work job is? waiter. why cant i get my own food at a restaurant? | ||
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crms
United States11933 Posts
On January 05 2018 07:00 Liquid`Drone wrote: It started as really political and dishonest, but ended up getting popular support. http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/10/12/support-for-marijuana-legalization-continues-to-rise/ft_16-10-11_marijuanalegal_trend/ In the US, in 1969 84% wanted it to be illegal. 1990-ish still 81%. Among 71+ year olds it's still 33% for legalization 59% against. (Or, was in 2016). Among voters identifying as conservative republicans, 2016 numbers were 33% for, 62% against. Sessions is 71 years old and a conservative republican, him genuinely opposing marijuana legalization is entirely on par for his demographic and other political attitudes. I don't see how corruption has to be a factor, at all. I entirely agree that it's extremely stupid, that the war on drugs has been a complete disaster, that marijuana is much better than alcohol, etc etc etc. I just don't agree with attributing his opinion with some sinister motivation behind it, I think he genuinely believes that society is better off not legalizing marijuana, no matter how wrong it is. I think he's genuinely wrong on most issues tbh. Because he's one of the most powerful men in the country who has access to all data regarding the topic and still comes out on the wrong side. So it's either gross negligence and stupidity or corruption. Hard to give any benefit of a doubt to a man like Sessions. Corruption is certainly in the playing field though I suspect it's a mix of all of the above. | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
On January 05 2018 07:19 GreenHorizons wrote: Because the alternative is that he is obstinately opposed to facts, evidence, and science despite a life presumably predicated at least on facts and evidence. why would we accept that presumption? most people's lives and beliefs are not based on facts and evidence, and I see no reason to make an exception for a politician (who's very business is therefore manufacturing truth) | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12487 Posts
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28874 Posts
Some people have a very hard time changing their opinion. Especially if that opinion is one they've held with extreme staunchness over a long period of time. Do any of you think his racism is caused by corruption too? | ||
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sc-darkness
856 Posts
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Tachion
Canada8573 Posts
On January 05 2018 07:23 IgnE wrote: you know what another stupid make-work job is? waiter. why cant i get my own food at a restaurant? I went to a cool Japanese place recently where you order all your food on a tablet. No waiters required to take your order. Of course they still had servers come out to serve your food, but hey, halfway there. | ||
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Godwrath
Spain10156 Posts
On January 05 2018 07:19 Gahlo wrote: In Jersey, isn't it also something like it keeps the cost of the station low because they don't have the insurance hassles of customers fucking things up and employees doing it instead? I don't know about Jersey, since a year or so the cheapest you can get here are manhandled. Before they would be more expensive but the difference was almost neligible so i would go to a place where i would get served anyways. If the price is relatively the same, why the fuck i am going to go to a place where they don't hire real people. | ||
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