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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On December 12 2017 02:55 IyMoon wrote: That seems a little bit much don't you think? Absolutely not. That is 100% something Fox News would do. There is a reason they never cover the investigation into Russian interference except to dunk on Mueller. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22153 Posts
On December 12 2017 02:55 IyMoon wrote: That seems a little bit much don't you think? Is it? The only way Jones can win is if a ton of Republicans stay home. And the biggest lead for Jones in a poll comes from the defacto Republican broadcast network? just putting 2 and 2 together. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15742 Posts
On December 12 2017 02:40 IyMoon wrote: So what are the odds Jones wins tomorrow? Fox has him up 10 points, but everyone else has Moore up 6-9 Don't underestimate the extent of Alabama inbreeding. There's a lot of it. Moore wins. | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
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brian
United States9639 Posts
On December 12 2017 02:56 Plansix wrote: There is also the problem that by constantly polling and then reporting the results of those polls, they make the results less accurate. The old adage that observing something changes it. Absolutely not. That is 100% something Fox News would do. There is a reason they never cover the investigation into Russian interference except to dunk on Mueller. I don’t know if i’m the crazy one here but whenever i’m watching the AM Fox News, it seems like pretty obvious manipulation of their viewers to buy into anti dem outrage. so yea, when they’re the only outlet reporting a strong lead for Jones the conclusion is glaringly obvious.. | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
The statement in particular getting a lot of attention was a reported comment of Moore saying, in response to a question about the last time America was great, “I think it was great at the time when families were united — even though we had slavery — they cared for one another…. Our families were strong, our country had a direction.” Rye brought up that comment during a panel segment on the crazier things Moore has said and asked Martin what he meant by it. Martin said the comment is being taken out of context. He also said, really sending the segment off the rails, Moore’s “getting elected to the Senate. When he gets to the Senate, he’s gonna have to vote on things. Slavery’s not gonna be voted on in the Senate, and neither is homosexuality.” An outraged Rye responded, “Are you serious?!” Martin continued: “It’s such a slur against him. What he said was families still love each other when they existed… people in bondage, when the Jews were in bondage for years, they still loved each other.” Watch above, via CNN. www.mediaite.com | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
On December 12 2017 02:55 IyMoon wrote: That seems a little bit much don't you think? Not inconceivable. The media is highly biased, after all. Also recall when Netanyahu claimed on election day that Arabs were going to the polls in buses. | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
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IyMoon
United States1249 Posts
On December 12 2017 03:33 Doodsmack wrote: #Mattis https://twitter.com/ABC7News/status/940282272397365248 Bring on the big guys twitter, I am going to love seeing this one | ||
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IgnE
United States7681 Posts
On December 12 2017 01:44 Kickboxer wrote: As I said, I consider Marxist doctrine a religion. You either accept it or you are actively persecuted, and that's how I would define "religion" in fact. A system imposed upon you at birth that allows no questioning. The existence of a deity is here besides the point. As for your second assertion, this is precisely why we are having this discussion. In the minds of myself and many people like me, the places you've listed have had their zenith a couple decades ago or so and are now being systematically eroded and undermined by concepts like cultural relativism, gender theory, third wave feminism, accommodation of Islam (the worst offender, imho), vilification of healthy traditional masculinity and femininity etc. I know you disagree with me on all these, but it's still a position you should attempt to understand. I attempt to understand the worldview of a progressive, I just think it makes the fatal mistake of completely ignoring the pragmatic realities of human psychology and is in its essence utopian in character which strikes me as a broken position. oh you consider "marxist doctrine" a religion huh? is this one of those cases where you are creating a term that nobody uses so that you can define what it means? wait no, jordan peterson uses the term and youve listened to him use it so you know what it means. it must be obvious to everyone then. have you ever heard any old soviet jokes? arent you slovenian? shouldnt you know better than us americans that plenty of people in eastern europe didnt "believe in marxist doctrine" (whatever that means, probably nothing), and yet they werent tortured and killed? | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On December 12 2017 03:38 IyMoon wrote: Bring on the big guys twitter, I am going to love seeing this one Trump literally only did this to try to get wall money, he probably already forgot about it. | ||
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IyMoon
United States1249 Posts
On December 12 2017 03:54 TheTenthDoc wrote: Trump literally only did this to try to get wall money, he probably already forgot about it. But people are going to remind him that he is being defied | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On December 12 2017 03:33 Doodsmack wrote: #Mattis https://twitter.com/ABC7News/status/940282272397365248 The year of our lord 2017, when the armed service pushes the White House to be more inclusive and a engine for social change. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
The GOP is backing these political views. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
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brian
United States9639 Posts
On December 12 2017 04:33 Plansix wrote: https://twitter.com/CNN/status/940015810315276288 The GOP is backing these political views. it’s especially sad that they have because it would have been so easy NOT to. the entire party could walk away from supporting Moore and then we’d feel bad for the rest of the party that they got shafted so hard by Alabama voters. I could easily see Moore winning without RNC support (granted it would’ve been harder) and then the GOP still gets to win the seat and not totally sell themselves out. I would’ve sympathized, personally. but oh well, instead we have an entire party supporting this racist child molestor with the family values platform. sucks to be a republican(non-politician i mean, fuck the actual GOP) this week. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
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