EPTUS Politics Mega-thread - Page 8908
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Karis Vas Ryaar
United States4396 Posts
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Karis Vas Ryaar
United States4396 Posts
On October 03 2017 09:36 Velr wrote: Totally, everyone not american should have to open an US Dollar account to ever purchase anything from a, mind you, world wide active company. How dare they take that foreign money... If this is the height of this issue, you better just stop it right now. think he's more saying that a foreign company buying US campaign ads paying in a foreign currency is worth further looking into. Specifically it's targets US political ads that are being discussed | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On October 03 2017 09:39 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote: think he's more saying that a foreign company buying US campaign ads paying in a foreign currency is worth further looking into. Specifically it's targets US political ads that are being discussed Yes, political ads for the US election bought with bought with Russian currency should have raised a red flag. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22359 Posts
On October 03 2017 09:50 Plansix wrote: Yes, political ads for the US election bought with bought with Russian currency should have raised a red flag. Since their system is most likely entirely automated. Did the system know it was political ads for the US election? (not trying to excuse facebook from responsibility of ads shown on their platform, just asking questions) | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10884 Posts
But in a big ass multinational company this is very normal so i guess it will just round up/down diffrences automatically (i hope)... The question is, was there a big increase in russian (rubel) spending on adds for the US marked before/during the election period. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22359 Posts
On October 03 2017 09:57 Velr wrote: Their accounting system/people will have known because exchanges courses change constantly so you never get the exact amount you expect. But in a big ass multinational company this is just very normal so i guess it will just round up/down diffrences automatically (i hope)... Ads in a foreign currency is normal and won't raise flags. Its only if you know they are tied to the US election that they would stand out. Hence my question. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On October 03 2017 09:52 Gorsameth wrote: Since their system is most likely entirely automated. Did the system know it was political ads for the US election? (not trying to excuse facebook from responsibility of ads shown on their platform, just asking questions) Who knows? Facebook was happy to soak up millions political ad money. I bet they never even thought about it. But straight up, if some shell company tried to buy TV political ads with Russian currency, calls would be made. Political ads on TV are required to say who pays for them. But not on the internet. Facebook has no excuse but ignorance or negligence. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On October 03 2017 09:42 Nevuk wrote: https://twitter.com/Calebkeeter/status/914872808110510080 Pundits on both sides are at it. + Show Spoiler + In other news, new report on presence of bump stocks, more than a dozen weapons, and ammonium nitrate-exposives. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On October 03 2017 10:25 Danglars wrote: Pundits on both sides are at it. https://twitter.com/stephengutowski/status/914970225145257985 + Show Spoiler + https://twitter.com/stephengutowski/status/915018482537951234 https://twitter.com/stephengutowski/status/915018957752602624 https://twitter.com/dloesch/status/914998796333015041 https://twitter.com/jjcooper/status/914929284904398848 https://twitter.com/charlescwcooke/status/914995070016860161 https://twitter.com/mattwalshblog/status/914904574749741056 In other news, new report on presence of bump stocks, more than a dozen weapons, and ammonium nitrate-exposives. Oh, that wasn't really a pundit. That was one of the guitarists on the stage, it's unusual to see anyone ever change their mind on the issue so I thought it was noteworthy | ||
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ShoCkeyy
7815 Posts
On October 03 2017 10:09 ticklishmusic wrote: can you even readily ID what is and isn't a political ad on facebook? i'm not familiar with their ad platform, so dunno how they ID/ track such things and to what extent. So from my knowledge, there is a manual review, and an automated review. The automated review looks for words and phrases that are banned/illegal, if you think something went wrong during the automated review, you can ask for a manual review of the ad. There are more rules, but from my experience, it's pretty easy to by pass a lot of those rules. Also HP giving source code to Russian Intel lol... | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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Tachion
Canada8573 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On October 03 2017 11:16 Tachion wrote: Businesses are going to do what's best for the business. If the source code was that big of a deal to the government and military then they should have made it illegal to share with foreign adversaries. I don't see a mention of any laws being broken in that article. I'm glad to see the need to regulate the industry is finally catching on. If it makes money, its cool to sell pentagon code to the Russians. Also I wouldn't count on this being completely above board. They don't say any laws were broken, but news articles generally don't unless they know a law was broken. It is pretty clear the DoD didn't know the company was doing and I wouldn't be shocked if they broke a few rules about being a military contractor. | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On October 03 2017 11:16 Tachion wrote: Businesses are going to do what's best for the business. If the source code was that big of a deal to the government and military then they should have made it illegal to share with foreign adversaries. I don't see a mention of any laws being broken in that article. I would expect that to be against ITAR or EAR regulations. In short, defense related stuff cannot be given to a non-US Citizen without a lot of paperwork. | ||
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ShoCkeyy
7815 Posts
On October 03 2017 11:22 Plansix wrote: I'm glad to see the need to regulate the industry is finally catching on. Also I wouldn't count on this being completely above board. They don't say any laws were broken, but news articles generally don't unless they know a law was broken. It is pretty clear the DoD didn't know the company was doing and I wouldn't be shocked if they broke a few rules about being a military contractor. I was a government contractor for certain applications that were built for the Library of Congress during the Obama administration. Currently work with a company that handles government contracts as well. The amount of NDA's, and security clearance needed to even look at source code is ridiculous. I wouldn't be surprise if the DoD is already in works to take HP to court. | ||
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bigmetazltank
34 Posts
On October 03 2017 09:38 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote: https://twitter.com/gelles/status/915007624097255424 Well Hillary Clinton isn't going to jail for her emails so they're consistent that state business on private email servers aren't really a problem anymore. | ||
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