US Politics Mega-thread - Page 8825

On September 26 2017 01:17 Dromar wrote:


Well, I'm not saying that I agree with RiK, but...

There is a logical basis from which to say that Trump is trying to unite the country. There's a ton of evidence to support the notion that Trump is incompetent and incapable of doing things without messing them up. Based on that and his actions, one could presume that at least some of his unnecessary comments on Twitter are an attempt to rebuild national pride and unite the people, as RiK suggests. He's just really bad at it and has no clue that what he's doing is the opposite.

Trying and succeeding are two different things. Whether or not you think this logical basis is the most reasonable one is up to you.

On September 26 2017 01:18 xDaunt wrote:

Not really. I see the same type of shit in response to most of my posts, as does Danglars. Y'all are oblivious to how shitty most of your posting is on a consistent basis.

On September 26 2017 01:18 brian wrote:

please, don’t avoid the question. and what an absurd reply. that doesn’t mean i can come here and tell you you’re an ignorant flame baiter and say it’s Congress’s fault for xyz reason and back pedal all day claiming ‘it’s congress and this is the us politics thread ok?’

On September 26 2017 00:27 Sermokala wrote:

Hes not even on wufflys level where he doesn't even put much effort into them. Mostly just inane obvious famebait from the sc2 strategey dark ages.

On September 26 2017 01:24 RealityIsKing wrote:


Unless you are just here specifically to mischaracterize people that that criticize extremists, please don't cherry pick.

I was responding to:

"You're clearly trolling at this point. Bring national pride back? When did it ever leave? When we elected a black president? Did it leave then? I must have been asleep when national pride was lost. And each president has stood up to NK. They just never threatened them with unilateral war because...reasons?"

At that point, it stopped being about the NFL, it became about Trump uniting the country and making examples of people trying to divide it.

On September 26 2017 01:26 Gorsameth wrote:

A man wanting equal rights for his race is now dividing the country by wanting everyone to be united in their rights.

Thats some backwards ass logic right there.

On September 26 2017 01:31 RealityIsKing wrote:


Clearly said that at that point, it stopped being about the NFL/flag issues.

That's some irrelevant ass response right there.

On September 25 2017 23:25 RealityIsKing wrote:


Also brought more divisiveness into the country, which is bad.

On September 26 2017 01:29 brian wrote:


this is the only thing that makes sense. any tips on keeping you from being outraged for the sake of it next?

On September 26 2017 01:32 brian wrote:


except you specifically called out the kneelers as being divisive in your second post. i’ll leave it to you to re-evaluate its relevance.


for your reference, lest you accuse me of mischaracterization again:

Target is raising its minimum hourly wage for its workers to $11 starting next month and then to $15 by the end of 2020 in a move it says will help it better recruit and retain top-quality staff and provide a better shopping experience for its customers.

The initiative, announced Monday, is part of Target’s strategy to reinvent its business, which includes remodeling stores, expanding online and opening up smaller urban locations.

Target quietly raised entry-level hourly wages to $10 last year from $9 from the previous year, following initiatives by Walmart and others to hike wages in a fiercely competitive marketplace.

But Target’s hike to $15 per hour far exceeds not only the federal minimum of $7.25 per hour but the hourly base pay at Walmart, the nation’s largest private employer, and plenty of its other retail peers whose minimum hourly pay now hovers around $10.

As part of its $2.7bn investment in workers, Walmart had raised its entry-level hourly pay for workers to $9 in 2015 and then to $10 in 2016. With Target’s large influence in the retail, its hike could force some rivals to match the pay in order to compete.

“We see this not only as an investment in our team but an investment in an elevated experience for our guests and the communities we serve,” Brian Cornell, CEO of Target, told reporters on a call Friday.

Target shares fell 2% early Monday morning as investors worried about how much the wage hike would hurt the bottom line. Target reiterated its third-quarter and full-year profit guidance but said that it would update investors early next year about how higher wages will affect long-term profits.

The changes come amid growing concern for the plight of the hourly worker. Thousands of workers have staged protests to call attention to their financial struggles and to fight for $15 hourly pay. Last November’s election of a Republican-controlled Congress dampened hopes of an increase in the $7.25 per-hour federal minimum wage. But advocates have continued to press for hikes on the state and local level.

At the same time, competition for workers has heated up, and retailers, worried by the threat of e-commerce, are falling behind. As shoppers get more mobile-savvy, retailers are seeking sales staff who are more skilled at customer service and in technology such as using iPads to check out inventory. But with the unemployment rate near a 16-year low, the most desirable retail workers feel more confident in hopping from job to job.

Thirty-two percent of all first jobs in the US are in retail, according to the National Retail Federation.

Hourly pay at restaurants and hotels is up 3.5% from a year earlier, a much better raise than the 2.5% gain for all employees. For workers at transportation and warehousing companies, where e-commerce growth is fueling hiring, pay is up 2.7% in the past year. Retailers, however, have lifted pay just 1.8% in the past year. That may be spurring more workers to leave for better opportunities: separate government data shows the number of retail workers quitting their jobs this year and last is at the highest in a decade.

The average hourly pay for cashiers is now $10.14, according to the Hay Group’s survey of 140 retailers with annual sales of at least $500m. A year ago, the hourly pay was $9.79.

Target says that its minimum hourly wage of $11 is higher than the minimum wage in 48 states and matches the minimum wage in Massachusetts and Washington. It says the pay hike will affect thousands of its more than 300,000 workers, but it declined to quantify the percentage of its workforce. It said the increase to $11 per hour will apply to the more than 100,000 hourly workers that Target will be hiring for the holiday season.

Target declined to say what the average pay will be for its hourly workers with the increased wages.

Ken Perkins, president of Retail Metrics, called Target’s decision “astute.” But he says only healthy rivals will be able to afford to match Target’s hourly pay hike, creating a larger divide between thriving stores and those that are struggling.

“Target is really trying to gain market share in an environment where there is tremendous upheaval,” Perkins said. But he believes that there may be only a few dozen retailers like Best Buy, Home Depot and Walmart that can mirror what Target is doing.

Target’s wage increases come as the discounter is seeing signs that its turnaround efforts are starting to win back shoppers

Walmart has been benefiting from an investment in its workers. The Bentonville, Arkansas-based retailer has seen lower turnover among workers and has gotten much better scores by customers for its service. Walmart’s namesake US division reported a 1.8% increase in revenue at stores opened at least a year during its fiscal second quarter, marking the 12th straight period of gains. Walmart’s wage investments, however, did take a big bite out of profits.

On September 26 2017 01:43 RealityIsKing wrote:


Then he should quote those instead instead of a totally irrelevant one if he so wishes me to respond, but then again people can just backtrack not too far to see my explanation of the unnecessarily flag/anthem protest if you TRULY want to have a clear discussion instead of randomly quoting me to simply just be insulting.

On September 26 2017 02:11 brian wrote:

ok so, having done that, you have no explanation to offer? again, specifically, how a man kneeling against racial inequality is to blame for divisiveness?