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On August 31 2017 03:37 Danglars wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2017 03:26 Kyadytim wrote:On August 31 2017 01:58 Danglars wrote:On August 30 2017 15:39 IgnE wrote:On August 30 2017 07:59 Danglars wrote:On August 30 2017 07:48 KwarK wrote:On August 30 2017 07:41 Danglars wrote:On August 30 2017 07:32 KwarK wrote:On August 30 2017 07:29 Danglars wrote:On August 30 2017 07:28 KwarK wrote:
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You haven't learned a thing. You're back to the equivalent of "vaccines cause autism" here. This was legitimately funny and I salute you. who so resent being regarded as racist idiots that they'll back Trump almost regardless. They may not admire the man, but he's on their side If the woman who called you a racist is running against the man who says you're not a racist but plans to put Sessions in charge of the DoJ, you call the woman a bitch and you vote for her anyway. Right and wrong don't change because one side hurt your feelings. That's my issue with the article. The author seems to genuinely believe that Americans know the difference between right and wrong but will choose wrong if it hurts the opposing team. "They may not admire the man" is an admission of as much. They know the issues with him as a candidate, but because he's on their side whereas the mean lady called them names, they can look past those issues. I think more of the American public than that. I'd sooner believe ignorance than malice. You usually alternate between trolly one liners and actual addressing substance with hours between. Which is why I thought it was funny I said I wasn't going to write more because you pick and choose when you'll actually respond. Which made your trollish one-liner funny. Sorry, but if we're going back to substance now, do you have anything to add, or should I just tell you some version of "lol snarky lib can't take what he dishes." You didn't respond to anything I wrote. The article you quoted presented two rival theories. The first, that Trump supporters are racists, and the second, that Trump supporters will vote for a racist platform if the guy at the top of it is on their team. I addressed that at length. There were a multitude of issues with it, from the weird tangent into how the Democrats must hate democracy if they believe that lots of Americans can be racist, the inexplicable advocating of voting for the guy you don't admire because he's on your team, the conflating of KKK racism with "I'm fine with the status quo" racism, and a whole bunch of other shit. But I've already spoken about that at length, you just ignored everything I wrote and decided to go a different way with it. Unless you stop and take a minute to understand what it is I am trying to communicate here you won't have the basic level of understanding needed to engage. That's why I dismissed it by comparing it to an anti-vaxxer line. If you make no effort to understand what you're talking about you'll not get the kind of response you want. Woah, now. It was funny when I stopped my post early because of your one-liners ... and you responded with a one-liner. But now that you're done with the joke (quite funny). Let's hear a little addressing of the criticism. Because you haven't addressed a damn thing and didn't try to. Your original quoting of the two sides misrepresented each viewpoint. Own up to it? I pointed it out, you stayed silent. I talked about humanity being a little more variegated than racist-or-supports-racist-policies, and you've tripled down on your reductive logic. Sorry, Kwark, humanity is not like that and I pity you indeed if you can't see that point in all it's glory. So we're basically at an impasse with that, because it does nobody any good to respond to my points with "You didn't respond to anything I wrote" by saying "You didn't respond to anything I wrote." You are incapable of learning the problems with one-dimensional thinking and hate racists (half the country) a lot more than you're owning up to. If you can't see my argument and how it addresses yours, I've wasted my time reading yours and typing this. I can't keep playing "Kwark goes on a related tangent" when you don't read articles, don't read nor understand responses, and fire back that I haven't addressed your points. Shape up, or get out. You might not merit responses to a single thing given your obtuseness.
But three things are clear: First, identity politics on the right is at least as corrosive as identity politics on the left, probably more so. If you reduce the complex array of identities that make up a human being into one crude ethno-political category, you’re going to do violence to yourself and everything around you.
Second, it is wrong to try to make a parallel between Black Lives Matter and White Lives Matter. To pretend that these tendencies are somehow comparable is to ignore American history and current realities.
Third, white identity politics as it plays out in the political arena is completely noxious. Donald Trump is the maestro here. He established his political identity through birtherism, he won the Republican nomination on the Muslim ban, he campaigned on the Mexican wall, he governed by being neutral on Charlottesville and pardoning the racialist Joe Arpaio.
Each individual Republican is now compelled to embrace this garbage or not. The choice is unavoidable, and white resentment is bound to define Republicanism more and more in the months ahead. It’s what Trump cares about. The identity warriors on the left will deface statues or whatever and set up mutually beneficial confrontations with the identity warriors on the right. Things will get uglier.
And this is where the dissolution of the G.O.P. comes in. Conservative universalists are coming to realize their party has become a vehicle for white identity and racial conflict. This faction is prior to and deeper than Trump.
David Brooks, ConservativeYou seem ready to embrace the garbage, no? Same opinion as Introvert. Maybe two or three percent of conservatives read or agree with Brooks take on things. Mensch might have better standing among the American left. You're better off sticking to publications like national review or conservative review, libertarian-leaning conservative outlets like the Federalist, etc. Emphasis added. Here's an article from the federalist I read a few days after Charlottesville. http://thefederalist.com/2017/08/16/donald-trump-needs-to-not-be-president-yesterday/There's also these nice articles that I got from a google search "national review donald trump terrible" To the contrary, Trump’s issuance of a full pardon effectively endorses Arpaio’s misconduct. http://www.nationalreview.com/article/450891/joe-arpaio-donald-trump-pardon-lawless-sheriff-premature-bad-decision Trump is the political version of a pickup artist, and Republicans — and America — went to bed with him convinced that he was something other than what he is. Trump inherited his fortune but describes himself as though he were a self-made man. http://www.nationalreview.com/article/449988/donald-trump-cant-close-deal-failing-salesman For many Republicans, what matters most about Donald Trump is that he’s demonstrated resolve against the enemy — not the Islamic State or the Taliban, but the media.
The media has become for the Right what the Soviet Union was during the Cold War — a common, unifying adversary of overwhelming importance. http://www.nationalreview.com/article/450808/donald-trump-media-republicans-hatred-leftist-media-trumps-all-else Donald Trump is a nightmare of a boss. His inability to command loyalty from his political hirelings through insults and threats is not only degrading the functioning of his White House; it is threatening the very legitimacy of his administration. http://www.nationalreview.com/article/449779/donald-trump-nightmare-boss-no-one-wants-work Were you expecting conservatives to be satisfied with Trump's performance in office? I'm puzzled to why you quote my response to Brooks and how he stands apart from the conservative movement to talk about conservatives and their opinion of Trump in office.
maybe because it seems like brooks and those real conservatives seem to agree about some things related to trump and white identitarians?
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On August 31 2017 03:46 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2017 03:44 IgnE wrote:On August 31 2017 03:32 Ayaz2810 wrote:On August 31 2017 03:26 Mohdoo wrote:On August 31 2017 03:18 Ayaz2810 wrote:On August 30 2017 23:29 mahrgell wrote:On August 30 2017 22:58 Plansix wrote:
They are a product of the times. Threats of violence are responded to with more violence. That is why people advocate for peaceful protest and resolutions. It won’t end until both of the parties get this stuff under control, which isn’t likely given who is president. You don't sound very different from Trumps "both sides" speech. I consider myself a pretty thoughtful guy, but I'm realizing I may be a bad American. In my opinion, your right to free speech ends when you fly a swastika. I'm totally okay with someone (or me) beating that ass. Kind of shocking to realize that I'm okay with fucking up someone's first amendment. The entire idea of absolutes in law is overly-romantic, mentally deficient bullshit. We have no reason as humans to lower ourselves to such a short list of considerations. The entire idea of "Wait, but shouldn't we let campaigns to recreate the Holocaust march and do whatever the fuck they want?" is just so fucking stupid. People who take comfort in absolutes tend to be the kind of person who gets too stressed and overwhelmed by long, rigorous thought. My father was a police officer for 30+ years, and voted foe Trump. He considers anyone against Trump to be "sheeple" who are fooled by the media. He's not so much a hardcore Trump supporter as a "leave him alone and let him do his job" kind of guy. When he mentioned "antifa" attacking nazis with clubs, I said "good. That's what they should do to nazis". He went apeshit and was ranting about how the constitution is sacred and how anti-American it was. That's how the idea that I was a dick got in my head in the first place. He does see it in absolute black and white. Which is crazy becausd he's the smartest man I've ever met otherwise. You think you know people..... then Trump brings out everyone's worst qualities. your father, a police officer for 30 years and a trump voter, was "the smartest man [you've] ever met?" Come on. I still think my brother is a pretty bright kid, even if he is having a moment of complete dumbassness that may or may not ruin holidays for the next 4 years.
you do understand the difference between calling someone "pretty bright" and calling them "the smartest person i've ever met" right?
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On August 31 2017 03:38 Dangermousecatdog wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2017 03:32 Ayaz2810 wrote:On August 31 2017 03:26 Mohdoo wrote:On August 31 2017 03:18 Ayaz2810 wrote:On August 30 2017 23:29 mahrgell wrote:On August 30 2017 22:58 Plansix wrote:
They are a product of the times. Threats of violence are responded to with more violence. That is why people advocate for peaceful protest and resolutions. It won’t end until both of the parties get this stuff under control, which isn’t likely given who is president. You don't sound very different from Trumps "both sides" speech. I consider myself a pretty thoughtful guy, but I'm realizing I may be a bad American. In my opinion, your right to free speech ends when you fly a swastika. I'm totally okay with someone (or me) beating that ass. Kind of shocking to realize that I'm okay with fucking up someone's first amendment. The entire idea of absolutes in law is overly-romantic, mentally deficient bullshit. We have no reason as humans to lower ourselves to such a short list of considerations. The entire idea of "Wait, but shouldn't we let campaigns to recreate the Holocaust march and do whatever the fuck they want?" is just so fucking stupid. People who take comfort in absolutes tend to be the kind of person who gets too stressed and overwhelmed by long, rigorous thought. My father was a police officer for 30+ years, and voted foe Trump. He considers anyone against Trump to be "sheeple" who are fooled by the media. He's not so much a hardcore Trump supporter as a "leave him alone and let him do his job" kind of guy. When he mentioned "antifa" attacking nazis with clubs, I said "good. That's what they should do to nazis". He went apeshit and was ranting about how the constitution is sacred and how anti-American it was. That's how the idea that I was a dick got in my head in the first place. He does see it in absolute black and white. Which is crazy becausd he's the smartest man I've ever met otherwise. You think you know people..... then Trump brings out everyone's worst qualities. Not to be insulting, but is he truly the smartest man you've ever met? I've always wondered about the strange preponderance of people thinking that their parents are the smartest people they've ever met. How can all the parents be the smartest? For me, my parents would be middling, and I can probably list tens of people I've ever met whom I can with complete certaincy consider smarter. Or is it a idiom to which I am unacquainted with?
He really is. He rose to the rank of police chief, has an array of mechanical skills, can answer every Jeopardy question (lol), is a great problem solver, a great detective, is great at math, demonstrates an extensive vocabulary, reads voraciously, and rarely forgets anything he hears or sees. He has no college education but is just naturally intelligent. When I say the smartest guy I know, I mean both in terms of broad "book knowledge" and street smarts/wit/critical thinking. My mother is also very bright, but not to the same extent, and not in the same ways. I gor very lucky because I was given a head start at a genetic level. I've never struggled on school or anything because of them.
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On August 31 2017 03:50 IgnE wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2017 03:46 Plansix wrote:On August 31 2017 03:44 IgnE wrote:On August 31 2017 03:32 Ayaz2810 wrote:On August 31 2017 03:26 Mohdoo wrote:On August 31 2017 03:18 Ayaz2810 wrote:On August 30 2017 23:29 mahrgell wrote:On August 30 2017 22:58 Plansix wrote:
They are a product of the times. Threats of violence are responded to with more violence. That is why people advocate for peaceful protest and resolutions. It won’t end until both of the parties get this stuff under control, which isn’t likely given who is president. You don't sound very different from Trumps "both sides" speech. I consider myself a pretty thoughtful guy, but I'm realizing I may be a bad American. In my opinion, your right to free speech ends when you fly a swastika. I'm totally okay with someone (or me) beating that ass. Kind of shocking to realize that I'm okay with fucking up someone's first amendment. The entire idea of absolutes in law is overly-romantic, mentally deficient bullshit. We have no reason as humans to lower ourselves to such a short list of considerations. The entire idea of "Wait, but shouldn't we let campaigns to recreate the Holocaust march and do whatever the fuck they want?" is just so fucking stupid. People who take comfort in absolutes tend to be the kind of person who gets too stressed and overwhelmed by long, rigorous thought. My father was a police officer for 30+ years, and voted foe Trump. He considers anyone against Trump to be "sheeple" who are fooled by the media. He's not so much a hardcore Trump supporter as a "leave him alone and let him do his job" kind of guy. When he mentioned "antifa" attacking nazis with clubs, I said "good. That's what they should do to nazis". He went apeshit and was ranting about how the constitution is sacred and how anti-American it was. That's how the idea that I was a dick got in my head in the first place. He does see it in absolute black and white. Which is crazy becausd he's the smartest man I've ever met otherwise. You think you know people..... then Trump brings out everyone's worst qualities. your father, a police officer for 30 years and a trump voter, was "the smartest man [you've] ever met?" Come on. I still think my brother is a pretty bright kid, even if he is having a moment of complete dumbassness that may or may not ruin holidays for the next 4 years. you do understand the difference between calling someone "pretty bright" and calling them "the smartest person i've ever met" right?
maybe you could explain it for the rest of the class just in case
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On August 31 2017 03:50 IgnE wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2017 03:46 Plansix wrote:On August 31 2017 03:44 IgnE wrote:On August 31 2017 03:32 Ayaz2810 wrote:On August 31 2017 03:26 Mohdoo wrote:On August 31 2017 03:18 Ayaz2810 wrote:On August 30 2017 23:29 mahrgell wrote:On August 30 2017 22:58 Plansix wrote:
They are a product of the times. Threats of violence are responded to with more violence. That is why people advocate for peaceful protest and resolutions. It won’t end until both of the parties get this stuff under control, which isn’t likely given who is president. You don't sound very different from Trumps "both sides" speech. I consider myself a pretty thoughtful guy, but I'm realizing I may be a bad American. In my opinion, your right to free speech ends when you fly a swastika. I'm totally okay with someone (or me) beating that ass. Kind of shocking to realize that I'm okay with fucking up someone's first amendment. The entire idea of absolutes in law is overly-romantic, mentally deficient bullshit. We have no reason as humans to lower ourselves to such a short list of considerations. The entire idea of "Wait, but shouldn't we let campaigns to recreate the Holocaust march and do whatever the fuck they want?" is just so fucking stupid. People who take comfort in absolutes tend to be the kind of person who gets too stressed and overwhelmed by long, rigorous thought. My father was a police officer for 30+ years, and voted foe Trump. He considers anyone against Trump to be "sheeple" who are fooled by the media. He's not so much a hardcore Trump supporter as a "leave him alone and let him do his job" kind of guy. When he mentioned "antifa" attacking nazis with clubs, I said "good. That's what they should do to nazis". He went apeshit and was ranting about how the constitution is sacred and how anti-American it was. That's how the idea that I was a dick got in my head in the first place. He does see it in absolute black and white. Which is crazy becausd he's the smartest man I've ever met otherwise. You think you know people..... then Trump brings out everyone's worst qualities. your father, a police officer for 30 years and a trump voter, was "the smartest man [you've] ever met?" Come on. I still think my brother is a pretty bright kid, even if he is having a moment of complete dumbassness that may or may not ruin holidays for the next 4 years. you do understand the difference between calling someone "pretty bright" and calling them "the smartest person i've ever met" right?
I give people some leeway to be hyperbolic when talking about their parents. At one point in life my father was my go to guy for all adult knowledge.
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"adult" knowledge? nudge nudge wink wink.
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On August 31 2017 03:53 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
"adult" knowledge? nudge nudge wink wink.
How to be a grown up. Like “hey, how do I put together a funeral?” and other things you can only know by doing.
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Unfortunately, by the time I was an adult I attended quite a few funerals, so I can't really relate.
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Planning them is one of the weirdest things I have ever done. Being asking things like “you can get three burial plots side by side, they have room” was not what I expected.
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On August 31 2017 03:52 Ayaz2810 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2017 03:38 Dangermousecatdog wrote:On August 31 2017 03:32 Ayaz2810 wrote:On August 31 2017 03:26 Mohdoo wrote:On August 31 2017 03:18 Ayaz2810 wrote:On August 30 2017 23:29 mahrgell wrote:On August 30 2017 22:58 Plansix wrote:
They are a product of the times. Threats of violence are responded to with more violence. That is why people advocate for peaceful protest and resolutions. It won’t end until both of the parties get this stuff under control, which isn’t likely given who is president. You don't sound very different from Trumps "both sides" speech. I consider myself a pretty thoughtful guy, but I'm realizing I may be a bad American. In my opinion, your right to free speech ends when you fly a swastika. I'm totally okay with someone (or me) beating that ass. Kind of shocking to realize that I'm okay with fucking up someone's first amendment. The entire idea of absolutes in law is overly-romantic, mentally deficient bullshit. We have no reason as humans to lower ourselves to such a short list of considerations. The entire idea of "Wait, but shouldn't we let campaigns to recreate the Holocaust march and do whatever the fuck they want?" is just so fucking stupid. People who take comfort in absolutes tend to be the kind of person who gets too stressed and overwhelmed by long, rigorous thought. My father was a police officer for 30+ years, and voted foe Trump. He considers anyone against Trump to be "sheeple" who are fooled by the media. He's not so much a hardcore Trump supporter as a "leave him alone and let him do his job" kind of guy. When he mentioned "antifa" attacking nazis with clubs, I said "good. That's what they should do to nazis". He went apeshit and was ranting about how the constitution is sacred and how anti-American it was. That's how the idea that I was a dick got in my head in the first place. He does see it in absolute black and white. Which is crazy becausd he's the smartest man I've ever met otherwise. You think you know people..... then Trump brings out everyone's worst qualities. Not to be insulting, but is he truly the smartest man you've ever met? I've always wondered about the strange preponderance of people thinking that their parents are the smartest people they've ever met. How can all the parents be the smartest? For me, my parents would be middling, and I can probably list tens of people I've ever met whom I can with complete certaincy consider smarter. Or is it a idiom to which I am unacquainted with? He really is. He rose to the rank of police chief, has an array of mechanical skills, can answer every Jeopardy question (lol), is a great problem solver, a great detective, is great at math, demonstrates an extensive vocabulary, reads voraciously, and rarely forgets anything he hears or sees. He has no college education but is just naturally intelligent. When I say the smartest guy I know, I mean both in terms of broad "book knowledge" and street smarts/wit/critical thinking. My mother is also very bright, but not to the same extent, and not in the same ways. I gor very lucky because I was given a head start at a genetic level. I've never struggled on school or anything because of them.
huh, well, guess he's just got a blind spot then. oh well, it happens, sadly 
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On August 31 2017 03:52 brian wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2017 03:50 IgnE wrote:On August 31 2017 03:46 Plansix wrote:On August 31 2017 03:44 IgnE wrote:On August 31 2017 03:32 Ayaz2810 wrote:On August 31 2017 03:26 Mohdoo wrote:On August 31 2017 03:18 Ayaz2810 wrote:On August 30 2017 23:29 mahrgell wrote:On August 30 2017 22:58 Plansix wrote:
They are a product of the times. Threats of violence are responded to with more violence. That is why people advocate for peaceful protest and resolutions. It won’t end until both of the parties get this stuff under control, which isn’t likely given who is president. You don't sound very different from Trumps "both sides" speech. I consider myself a pretty thoughtful guy, but I'm realizing I may be a bad American. In my opinion, your right to free speech ends when you fly a swastika. I'm totally okay with someone (or me) beating that ass. Kind of shocking to realize that I'm okay with fucking up someone's first amendment. The entire idea of absolutes in law is overly-romantic, mentally deficient bullshit. We have no reason as humans to lower ourselves to such a short list of considerations. The entire idea of "Wait, but shouldn't we let campaigns to recreate the Holocaust march and do whatever the fuck they want?" is just so fucking stupid. People who take comfort in absolutes tend to be the kind of person who gets too stressed and overwhelmed by long, rigorous thought. My father was a police officer for 30+ years, and voted foe Trump. He considers anyone against Trump to be "sheeple" who are fooled by the media. He's not so much a hardcore Trump supporter as a "leave him alone and let him do his job" kind of guy. When he mentioned "antifa" attacking nazis with clubs, I said "good. That's what they should do to nazis". He went apeshit and was ranting about how the constitution is sacred and how anti-American it was. That's how the idea that I was a dick got in my head in the first place. He does see it in absolute black and white. Which is crazy becausd he's the smartest man I've ever met otherwise. You think you know people..... then Trump brings out everyone's worst qualities. your father, a police officer for 30 years and a trump voter, was "the smartest man [you've] ever met?" Come on. I still think my brother is a pretty bright kid, even if he is having a moment of complete dumbassness that may or may not ruin holidays for the next 4 years. you do understand the difference between calling someone "pretty bright" and calling them "the smartest person i've ever met" right? maybe you could explain it for the rest of the class just in case
is this a request from a particularly slow learner? you can PM me if you aren't keeping up
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On August 31 2017 04:06 Plansix wrote:
Planning them is one of the weirdest things I have ever done. Being asking things like “you can get three burial plots side by side, they have room” was not what I expected.
I dunno, I'd expect that. Family (especially spouses) generally want to be buried next to each other.
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On August 31 2017 04:19 IgnE wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2017 03:52 brian wrote:On August 31 2017 03:50 IgnE wrote:On August 31 2017 03:46 Plansix wrote:On August 31 2017 03:44 IgnE wrote:On August 31 2017 03:32 Ayaz2810 wrote:On August 31 2017 03:26 Mohdoo wrote:On August 31 2017 03:18 Ayaz2810 wrote:On August 30 2017 23:29 mahrgell wrote:On August 30 2017 22:58 Plansix wrote:
They are a product of the times. Threats of violence are responded to with more violence. That is why people advocate for peaceful protest and resolutions. It won’t end until both of the parties get this stuff under control, which isn’t likely given who is president. You don't sound very different from Trumps "both sides" speech. I consider myself a pretty thoughtful guy, but I'm realizing I may be a bad American. In my opinion, your right to free speech ends when you fly a swastika. I'm totally okay with someone (or me) beating that ass. Kind of shocking to realize that I'm okay with fucking up someone's first amendment. The entire idea of absolutes in law is overly-romantic, mentally deficient bullshit. We have no reason as humans to lower ourselves to such a short list of considerations. The entire idea of "Wait, but shouldn't we let campaigns to recreate the Holocaust march and do whatever the fuck they want?" is just so fucking stupid. People who take comfort in absolutes tend to be the kind of person who gets too stressed and overwhelmed by long, rigorous thought. My father was a police officer for 30+ years, and voted foe Trump. He considers anyone against Trump to be "sheeple" who are fooled by the media. He's not so much a hardcore Trump supporter as a "leave him alone and let him do his job" kind of guy. When he mentioned "antifa" attacking nazis with clubs, I said "good. That's what they should do to nazis". He went apeshit and was ranting about how the constitution is sacred and how anti-American it was. That's how the idea that I was a dick got in my head in the first place. He does see it in absolute black and white. Which is crazy becausd he's the smartest man I've ever met otherwise. You think you know people..... then Trump brings out everyone's worst qualities. your father, a police officer for 30 years and a trump voter, was "the smartest man [you've] ever met?" Come on. I still think my brother is a pretty bright kid, even if he is having a moment of complete dumbassness that may or may not ruin holidays for the next 4 years. you do understand the difference between calling someone "pretty bright" and calling them "the smartest person i've ever met" right? maybe you could explain it for the rest of the class just in case is this a request from a particularly slow learner? you can PM me if you aren't keeping up
just trying to get the most out of your post~. i mean what's the alternative? or where you looking for a yes or no response? no interest in a discussion? then why ask?
i'm sure you wouldn't post just to attempt to insult someone, that would be quite something.
oh jokes on me, that makes two in a row whose only purpose is to insult someone. perhaps i am slow. if you could PM me that explanation after all, perhaps i could use it. l o l
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At least this time it says "proudly made in USA" on the website.
Logo stitched in the USA on a Chinese made hat might be a little more honest, but who really knows.
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On August 31 2017 04:20 WolfintheSheep wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2017 04:06 Plansix wrote:
Planning them is one of the weirdest things I have ever done. Being asking things like “you can get three burial plots side by side, they have room” was not what I expected. I dunno, I'd expect that. Family (especially spouses) generally want to be buried next to each other.
It makes perfect sense, I just was not prepared for the random moments of capitalism in the middle of planning the event. The show room for coffins was super weird. Especially since I could see the other room that was clearly the show room for children's coffins.
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On August 31 2017 04:33 Artisreal wrote:At least this time it says "proudly made in USA" on the website. Logo stitched in the USA on a Chinese made hat might be a little more honest, but who really knows.
Let's discuss Melanies heels next.
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On August 31 2017 04:26 brian wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2017 04:19 IgnE wrote:On August 31 2017 03:52 brian wrote:On August 31 2017 03:50 IgnE wrote:On August 31 2017 03:46 Plansix wrote:On August 31 2017 03:44 IgnE wrote:On August 31 2017 03:32 Ayaz2810 wrote:On August 31 2017 03:26 Mohdoo wrote:On August 31 2017 03:18 Ayaz2810 wrote:On August 30 2017 23:29 mahrgell wrote:
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You don't sound very different from Trumps "both sides" speech. I consider myself a pretty thoughtful guy, but I'm realizing I may be a bad American. In my opinion, your right to free speech ends when you fly a swastika. I'm totally okay with someone (or me) beating that ass. Kind of shocking to realize that I'm okay with fucking up someone's first amendment. The entire idea of absolutes in law is overly-romantic, mentally deficient bullshit. We have no reason as humans to lower ourselves to such a short list of considerations. The entire idea of "Wait, but shouldn't we let campaigns to recreate the Holocaust march and do whatever the fuck they want?" is just so fucking stupid. People who take comfort in absolutes tend to be the kind of person who gets too stressed and overwhelmed by long, rigorous thought. My father was a police officer for 30+ years, and voted foe Trump. He considers anyone against Trump to be "sheeple" who are fooled by the media. He's not so much a hardcore Trump supporter as a "leave him alone and let him do his job" kind of guy. When he mentioned "antifa" attacking nazis with clubs, I said "good. That's what they should do to nazis". He went apeshit and was ranting about how the constitution is sacred and how anti-American it was. That's how the idea that I was a dick got in my head in the first place. He does see it in absolute black and white. Which is crazy becausd he's the smartest man I've ever met otherwise. You think you know people..... then Trump brings out everyone's worst qualities. your father, a police officer for 30 years and a trump voter, was "the smartest man [you've] ever met?" Come on. I still think my brother is a pretty bright kid, even if he is having a moment of complete dumbassness that may or may not ruin holidays for the next 4 years. you do understand the difference between calling someone "pretty bright" and calling them "the smartest person i've ever met" right? maybe you could explain it for the rest of the class just in case is this a request from a particularly slow learner? you can PM me if you aren't keeping up just trying to get the most out of your post~. i mean what's the alternative? or where you looking for a yes or no response? no interest in a discussion? then why ask? i'm sure you wouldn't post just to attempt to insult someone, that would be quite something. oh jokes on me, that makes two in a row whose only purpose is to insult someone. perhaps i am slow. if you could PM me that explanation after all, perhaps i could use it.
the alternative would be that you are picking a fight with me for no apparent reason over a conversation you arent a part of
i'm confused. do you think i was attacking P6 for fun? are you his defender now? or are you defending only the merit of his post, in which he says, "come on, [why is it so surprising a cop and trump voter could be the smartest man our friend has ever met?]. my brother, for example, is pretty bright and he voted for trump."
i wasn't really insulting anyone up till now, just clarifying my position while asking P6 to clarify his, but yes, the joke is on you, yes you are slow, yes your first thought that i couldnt possiby be posting just to insult someone was the right one, yes that would be quite something, and yes i dont expect much else from a simpleton like yourself
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On August 31 2017 04:50 IgnE wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2017 04:26 brian wrote:On August 31 2017 04:19 IgnE wrote:On August 31 2017 03:52 brian wrote:On August 31 2017 03:50 IgnE wrote:On August 31 2017 03:46 Plansix wrote:On August 31 2017 03:44 IgnE wrote:On August 31 2017 03:32 Ayaz2810 wrote:On August 31 2017 03:26 Mohdoo wrote:On August 31 2017 03:18 Ayaz2810 wrote:
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I consider myself a pretty thoughtful guy, but I'm realizing I may be a bad American. In my opinion, your right to free speech ends when you fly a swastika. I'm totally okay with someone (or me) beating that ass. Kind of shocking to realize that I'm okay with fucking up someone's first amendment. The entire idea of absolutes in law is overly-romantic, mentally deficient bullshit. We have no reason as humans to lower ourselves to such a short list of considerations. The entire idea of "Wait, but shouldn't we let campaigns to recreate the Holocaust march and do whatever the fuck they want?" is just so fucking stupid. People who take comfort in absolutes tend to be the kind of person who gets too stressed and overwhelmed by long, rigorous thought. My father was a police officer for 30+ years, and voted foe Trump. He considers anyone against Trump to be "sheeple" who are fooled by the media. He's not so much a hardcore Trump supporter as a "leave him alone and let him do his job" kind of guy. When he mentioned "antifa" attacking nazis with clubs, I said "good. That's what they should do to nazis". He went apeshit and was ranting about how the constitution is sacred and how anti-American it was. That's how the idea that I was a dick got in my head in the first place. He does see it in absolute black and white. Which is crazy becausd he's the smartest man I've ever met otherwise. You think you know people..... then Trump brings out everyone's worst qualities. your father, a police officer for 30 years and a trump voter, was "the smartest man [you've] ever met?" Come on. I still think my brother is a pretty bright kid, even if he is having a moment of complete dumbassness that may or may not ruin holidays for the next 4 years. you do understand the difference between calling someone "pretty bright" and calling them "the smartest person i've ever met" right? maybe you could explain it for the rest of the class just in case is this a request from a particularly slow learner? you can PM me if you aren't keeping up just trying to get the most out of your post~. i mean what's the alternative? or where you looking for a yes or no response? no interest in a discussion? then why ask? i'm sure you wouldn't post just to attempt to insult someone, that would be quite something. oh jokes on me, that makes two in a row whose only purpose is to insult someone. perhaps i am slow. if you could PM me that explanation after all, perhaps i could use it. the alternative would be that you are picking a fight with me for no apparent reason over a conversation you arent a part of i'm confused. do you think i was attacking P6 for fun? are you his defender now? or are you defending only the merit of his post, in which he says, "come on, [why is it so surprising a cop and trump voter could be the smartest man our friend has ever met?]. my brother, for example, is pretty bright and he voted for trump." i wasn't really insulting anyone up till now, just clarifying my position while asking P6 to clarify his, but yes, the joke is on you, yes you are slow, yes your first thought that i couldnt possiby be posting just to insult someone was the right one, yes that would be quite something, and yes i dont expect much else from a simpleton like yourself
though it didn't start this way, i just enjoy discrediting people who can't put together a coherent idea without attacking the people they talk to.
and if you think my asking you to elaborate on what appeared to be a worthless post is my picking a fight, then i'm sorry. but i also think that's on you, not on me.
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Alternative solution: we could just infer that the poster admires his father.
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