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Read the rules in the OP before posting, please.

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brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9617 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-25 21:26:25
August 25 2017 21:20 GMT
#171061
i mean there's nothing punny about a chink joke. no, i've never heard a usain bolt pun though now i can picture it. (oh i get why chink could be a pun. but the word is kink, right? bit of a stretch)

but if you're telling me guerilla tennis doesn't exist- i apologize. then i am clearly wrong here. i hadn't gotten that impression prior.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 25 2017 21:23 GMT
#171062
Harvey is a category 3 storm now. 125 mph winds and it is supposed to hover over Texas for the entire weekend. Fingers crossed it doesn't.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
August 25 2017 21:26 GMT
#171063
On August 26 2017 06:20 brian wrote:
i mean there's nothing punny about a chink joke. no, i've never heard a usain bolt pun though now i can picture it.

but if you're telling me guerilla tennis doesn't exist- i apologize. then i am clearly wrong here. i hadn't gotten that impression prior.

"Chink in the armor" is a common phrase, generally being a metaphorical vulnerability in defence. So, used for a Chinese basketball player who had a bad game, that's where the wordplay comes in.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Azuzu
Profile Joined August 2010
United States340 Posts
August 25 2017 21:27 GMT
#171064
I grew up in Port Aransas, it really sounds like the city is just going to be gone after this.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 25 2017 21:28 GMT
#171065
All the talk about the media being hysterical seems kinda silly now.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-25 21:41:55
August 25 2017 21:41 GMT
#171066
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 25 2017 21:58 GMT
#171067
WASHINGTON — Special Counsel Robert Mueller issued grand jury subpoenas in recent days seeking testimony from public relations executives who worked on an international campaign organized by Paul Manafort, people directly familiar with the matter told NBC News.

This is the first public indication that Mueller's investigation is beginning to compel witness testimony before the grand jury — a significant milestone in an inquiry that is examining the conduct of President Donald Trump and his son-in-law and senior adviser, Jared Kushner, among others.

It is also further indication that Manafort, Trump's onetime campaign chairman, could be in serious legal jeopardy.

According to one executive whose firm received a subpoena, Mueller's team is closely examining the lobbying campaign, which ran between 2012 and 2014. Some of the firms involved in the campaign received subpoenas for documents weeks ago, the executive said, and now the Mueller team is seeking testimony.

"We think they are trying to figure out, was this a legitimate project?" the executive said. "From our perspective it was — we did a lot of work. We took it seriously."

Manafort, whose Alexandria, Virginia, apartment was raided by FBI agents last month, has emerged as a key figure in the Mueller probe. The inquiry into the lobbying campaign appears to be part of a larger investigation into his work for a pro-Russian Ukrainian political party, his offshore banking transactions, his tax compliance and his real estate dealings, people familiar with the probe have told NBC News.

Manafort also was present at a June 2016 Trump Tower meeting with a Russian lobbyist and a Russian lawyer, along with Donald Trump Jr. and Kushner. NBC News has previously reported that Kushner is under scrutiny by investigators, and that Mueller is examining whether President Trump obstructed justice.

The executive said six firms participated in the public relations effort that Manafort coordinated, paid for by a Brussels-based non-profit called the European Center for a Modern Ukraine. The stated goal was to build support for Ukraine's entry into the European Union.

Two of the firms, Podesta Group and Mercury LLC, worked in Washington with Manafort partner Rick Gates, according to lobbying disclosure records. Three other firms worked in Europe, the executive said. NBC News could not confirm the identity of those three.

At the time, Ukraine was run by a pro-Russian political party that had paid Manafort $17 million for consulting in 2013 and 2014, according to Manafort's latest foreign lobbying disclosure filing, which he filed belatedly under Justice Department pressure.

The party's leader, Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych, fled to Russia during a popular uprising in 2014.

Manafort's spokesman, Jason Maloni, declined to comment.

The Associated Press first revealed the pro-Ukraine lobbying campaign in August 2016, while Manafort was still running the Trump campaign.

The report said the campaign was designed to sway public opinion and included attempts to solicit favorable press coverage in The New York Times and Wall Street Journal.

At the time, neither Manafort nor the firms had registered as foreign agents. The executive told NBC News that was because the non-profit said that it was not funded by a government or a political party.

In recent months, the Justice Department told the Mercury and Podesta firms that they should have registered as foreign agents, and they did so.

Under the U.S. Foreign Agents Registration Act, people who lobby on behalf of foreign governments, leaders or political parties must file detailed disclosures about their spending and activities to the Justice Department. Willful failure to file the forms violation is a felony and can result in up to five years in prison — but such prosecutions are extremely rare.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12172 Posts
August 25 2017 22:06 GMT
#171068
On August 26 2017 06:27 Azuzu wrote:
I grew up in Port Aransas, it really sounds like the city is just going to be gone after this.


No offense but if I were to build a town that's not necessarily where I would have put it :D
No will to live, no wish to die
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
8982 Posts
August 25 2017 22:18 GMT
#171069
The same could be said of Venice, All of Florida, and most of the Gulf.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 25 2017 22:24 GMT
#171070
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
8982 Posts
August 25 2017 22:33 GMT
#171071
President Trump has signed a memo implementing his new policy on transgender people serving in the armed forces.

A senior White House official told reporters that no transgender individuals will be allowed the join the armed services unless and until the Secretary of Defense and Secretary of Homeland Security recommend otherwise.

The Army, Navy, Air Force and Marine Corps are part of the Department of Defense. The Coast Guard, also covered by the new policy, is part of the Department of Homeland Security.

The change in policy that would have allowed transgender people to serve openly had been announced by former Secretary of Defense Ash Carter but never implemented.

The official also said the memo halts use of all Defense and Homeland Security resources for sex change surgery for those now serving. The only exception is for transgender service members already in treatment. This will become effective March 23, 2018, to give time for officials to develop an implementation policy.

The policy prohibiting transgender individuals serving in the military is restored by the memo. For transgender service members already serving, the memo directs the Department of Defense and Department of Homeland Security to determine what to do with them based on how their continued service affects military effectiveness, lethality, resources and unit cohesion.

The memo calls for an implementation plan to be submitted to the president by March 23, 2018.

Source
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44292 Posts
August 25 2017 22:34 GMT
#171072
Why does Trump care so much about transgender people in the military?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
8982 Posts
August 25 2017 22:36 GMT
#171073
In what may be her last appearance at the annual economic summit held in Wyoming, Federal Reserve Chair Janet Yellen on Friday warned against forgetting the lessons of the Great Recession.

And she staunchly defended the post-crisis regulatory reforms that she says have made banks safer.

Most research shows the changes have curbed risky banking activities, and yet "credit is available on good terms, and lending has advanced ... , contributing to today's strong economy," Yellen said at the conference held in Jackson Hole, and sponsored by the Kansas City Federal Reserve Bank.

Yellen's remarks appear to be at odds with statements made by President Trump, who often has claimed that excessive regulation of the financial system has hurt economic growth.

Trump has been particularly critical of the Dodd-Frank law, Congress's main response to the 2008-09 financial crisis. "I have so many people, friends of mine, that had nice businesses. They can't borrow money," Trump said in February. "They just can't get any money because the banks just won't let them borrow it because of the rules and regulations in Dodd-Frank."

Source
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
August 25 2017 22:37 GMT
#171074
On August 26 2017 07:34 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Why does Trump care so much about transgender people in the military?

he probably doesn't care himself; but it plays well with the homophobic part of his base, and it serves as an easy distraction.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
August 25 2017 22:40 GMT
#171075
On August 26 2017 07:36 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
In what may be her last appearance at the annual economic summit held in Wyoming, Federal Reserve Chair Janet Yellen on Friday warned against forgetting the lessons of the Great Recession.

And she staunchly defended the post-crisis regulatory reforms that she says have made banks safer.

Most research shows the changes have curbed risky banking activities, and yet "credit is available on good terms, and lending has advanced ... , contributing to today's strong economy," Yellen said at the conference held in Jackson Hole, and sponsored by the Kansas City Federal Reserve Bank.

Yellen's remarks appear to be at odds with statements made by President Trump, who often has claimed that excessive regulation of the financial system has hurt economic growth.

Trump has been particularly critical of the Dodd-Frank law, Congress's main response to the 2008-09 financial crisis. "I have so many people, friends of mine, that had nice businesses. They can't borrow money," Trump said in February. "They just can't get any money because the banks just won't let them borrow it because of the rules and regulations in Dodd-Frank."

Source


Uh,the reason the banks won't lend his friends money isn't because of Dodd Frank (he probably doesn't even know what it does). It's because his friends have garbage businesses that aren't worth lending to.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 25 2017 22:44 GMT
#171076
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 25 2017 23:24 GMT
#171077
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
August 25 2017 23:27 GMT
#171078
On August 26 2017 08:24 Plansix wrote:
https://twitter.com/annafifield/status/901223049193586688


RIP to the folks in charge of those launches.
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
August 25 2017 23:40 GMT
#171079
On August 26 2017 08:27 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 08:24 Plansix wrote:
https://twitter.com/annafifield/status/901223049193586688


RIP to the folks in charge of those launches.

Kim Jung Un is gonna need a lot of flak cannon ammo.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13924 Posts
August 25 2017 23:49 GMT
#171080
Don't ask don't tell: Not the worst interference of social policy into the military anymore.
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