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ticklishmusic
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wei2coolman
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{CC}StealthBlue
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On January 29 2014 12:07 wei2coolman wrote: Why are we still supporting Israel? it's like they got a death grip on America's balls. religious zeal. An emotion which unfortunately the US hasn't grown out of. | ||
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Roe
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JonnyBNoHo
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On January 29 2014 12:12 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Yes Europe is an ally, but they can pay for their own defense. Nope. They're broke  | ||
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Danglars
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If this guy spent half the time he talks about citizenship on enforcing existing immigration law, we could already move on to the status of millions of illegal immigrants. Already had to restrain the gagging on the tired populist line, "X is a right, not a privilege." Venn diagrams to try to color over weak foreign policy. Let's look at red green and blue overlapping circles instead of analyzing how weak our opposition to Iranian nuclear weapon is. Compare Iran or the USSR? Please! That's as much as I can hack for now for this left-wing ideologue. I'll end on that fun note where our government engages in acts of benevolence using the money of their constituents in sub-Saharan Africa. | ||
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Sub40APM
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On January 29 2014 12:07 wei2coolman wrote: Why are we still supporting Israel? it's like they got a death grip on America's balls. Important voter demographic in an important states, lots of money that can be raised in elections and a massive of mouth breathing, republican voters who believe the bible is a literal book and that jesus christ will come back to earth as soon as all jews move to israel. | ||
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Roe
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danglars just sees the (D) next to his name and goes full mccarthy | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
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xDaunt
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Introvert
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But this push for more executive action really is the scary part. | ||
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Roe
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On January 29 2014 12:22 Introvert wrote: Thank goodness that's over. He didn't actually say anything (well, besides "I'll act on my own!"). This is one of those times I hope he doesn't mean what he says... At least he hit every talking point. But this push for more executive action really is the scary part. like what, trying to save negotiations from congress' sabotage? obama's always doing flowery language and then backing down to his conservative side | ||
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Mohdoo
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On January 29 2014 12:22 Introvert wrote: Thank goodness that's over. He didn't actually say anything (well, besides "I'll act on my own!"). This is one of those times I hope he doesn't mean what he says... At least he hit every talking point. But this push for more executive action really is the scary part. You make it sound like Obama is rewriting the rules. He's not rewriting the constitution or something. He is doing things that he can do. He's not making up laws or something. | ||
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zlefin
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Introvert
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On January 29 2014 12:24 Roe wrote: like what, trying to save negotiations from congress' sabotage? obama's always doing flowery language and then backing down to his conservative side I like how you refer to the House, in theory the closest branch to the people, as "sabotaging." When he was re-elected, so was the House. When he was re-elected, the Constitution was not also up for election. That doesn't GO up for election. So yes, when he acts outside the bounds of the law for expediency, it concerns me. How can you trust ANY politician with that kind of power? He's still far left. Just because he doesn't act to the astounding extent you apparently want him to doesn't mean he's not far left. You make it sound like Obama is rewriting the rules. He's not rewriting the constitution or something. He is doing things that he can do. He's not making up laws or something. We've had this discussion here before. Yes, he IS rewriting the rules. He's even threatening to just make up new ones. Does this not concern you? | ||
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Mohdoo
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On January 29 2014 12:31 Introvert wrote: I like how you refer to the House, in theory the closest branch to the people, as "sabotaging." When he was re-elected, so was the House. When he was re-elected, the Constitution was not also up for election. That doesn't GO up for election. So yes, when he acts outside the bounds of the law for expediency, it concerns me. How can you trust ANY politician with that kind of power? He's still far left. Just because he doesn't act to the astounding extent you apparently want him to doesn't mean he's not far left. What laws is Obama breaking? | ||
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Roe
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On January 29 2014 12:31 Introvert wrote: I like how you refer to the House, in theory the closest branch to the people, as "sabotaging." When he was re-elected, so was the House. When he was re-elected, the Constitution was not also up for election. That doesn't GO up for election. So yes, when he acts outside the bounds of the law for expediency, it concerns me. How can you trust ANY politician with that kind of power? He's still far left. Just because he doesn't act to the astounding extent you apparently want him to doesn't mean he's not far left. if obama is far left, i have no clue what a real leftist like ...let's say noam chomsky, trostky, red rosa would be. i mean really you just listened to a conservative speech where obama panders to the military, israel, the status quo, trying to pretend everything is great by appealing to the typical american dream fanfare. you really think congress pulling a Nixon on the Iranian deal isn't more dangerous than Obama vetoing it that sabotage? obama care and min wage are against the constitution to right-wing ideologues | ||
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zlefin
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yes, congress is threatening to sabotage the deal with Iran; and that congress isn't representing america is abundantly clear. If congress would shape up, then Obama wouldn't have to try to do stuff himself. | ||
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