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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
January 29 2014 02:39 GMT
#16481
It's snowing in Atlanta so...

;P
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JonnyBNoHo
Profile Joined July 2011
United States6277 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-29 03:04:46
January 29 2014 02:40 GMT
#16482
On January 29 2014 11:23 nunez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2014 10:09 JonnyBNoHo wrote:
On January 29 2014 09:12 nunez wrote:
On January 29 2014 00:47 JonnyBNoHo wrote:
On January 28 2014 16:37 nunez wrote:
yes, or lower, or at two places or not existing etc. but that was not really what was argued in the paper, yes, the 'case study' or what have you in the paper is clearly non-linear and so is the rest of the world.

but a flimsy 'mathematical framework' do not to justify, establish, or give weigth to preconceived notions on what relations are causing these dynamics, not to mention if you fail at establishing one...

it's nonsense, it's nonsense done wrong even.

you are handed a non linear function, you define a linearization wherein the linear dynamic is caused by preconcieved notions, you claim your linearization is non-linear (no, it's linear by your own definition) and from that it supposedly follows that the non-linear function is non-linear (yes, good) and that the non-linear dynamics are caused by said preconceived notions.

it is akin to failing at taking the derivative of x squared in an attempt to show that x is 'some beans'.

She goes through examples of both linear and non-linear jobs and explains the differences between them. Where in there is your criticism, exactly? What preconceived notions do you have a problem with?


the foundation (the framework) for this preconceived notion that "... that nonliear pay with respect to hours worked is responsible for the majority of the resuidual differences observed in earnings by gender" amounts to:
1) a restatement of said notion
2) contradicting said notion (the model is linear)

you can swap out "with respect to hours worked", "with respect to gender discrimination" or "with respect to beans consumed" or whatever else... it is the method that is flawed. she has wrapped her beliefs in something she doesn't understand and you are misconstruing her ignorance as a convincing case.

the paper or essay is largely unchanged if you strip away this particular idiocy, you will still find it agreeable...

What is "this preconceived notion"? There's an observation - that some pay is linear and some is non-linear. That's not a modeled result, or theory - it's an observed fact. When that observed fact is utilized, the residual differences decline.

The paper goes on to describe what makes a job linear vs non-linear and what trends exist.


i am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a post.

linearity is abstract. nothing real is linear, 'misguided belief' not 'observed fact'.

even a simple resistor's behaviour is only close enough (real) to that of a linear function (abstract) under certain conditions (not to mention the axioms needed to develop the mathematics needed for the linear function itself). where's the humility?

re-read my previous post dilligently and i wont have to repeat myself to answer your question.

OK, so you're just trolling. Got it.

Edit: "nothing real is linear" has no relevance to the paper. You're either trolling or honestly bringing up an irrelevant point.
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
January 29 2014 02:44 GMT
#16483
is anyone still in favour of the FCC?
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 29 2014 02:47 GMT
#16484
Boehner can stand for women's equal pay, but will he act?
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
January 29 2014 02:48 GMT
#16485
On January 29 2014 11:44 Roe wrote:
is anyone still in favour of the FCC?


Fuck the fcc! I'll broadcast on any frequency and at any strength I damn well please!
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 29 2014 02:50 GMT
#16486
Boehner did not clap or even stand for equal pay.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
January 29 2014 02:52 GMT
#16487
Dang, he called out Rubio on that. Well, not a call out but that's got to be uncomfortable for an overt conservative.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 29 2014 02:56 GMT
#16488
And Boehner and the House Republicans are pissed.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
January 29 2014 02:58 GMT
#16489
Big tax breaks to help the wealthy save, but little to nothing to middle class Americans!
On January 29 2014 11:23 Introvert wrote:And anything based on class warfare, gender discrimination, in/equality, the planet, paying your "fair share", etc.


All these stats poppin up on the right, 62% found it hard to get insurance, X% of applicants were denied for pre-existing conditions. I mean cmon.

Political Grandstanding at its finest. The president that's all talk keeps talking. Heck, his claim that Republicans are all about voting against things that voting for things only resonates because Boehner and the rest of establishment Republicans haven't taken stands and given speeches again and again on what they believe in.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15690 Posts
January 29 2014 02:59 GMT
#16490
40+ votes. Really had no idea it was that high. what a joke lmao.

And it failed. Millions are now covered and it is a super obvious improvement.
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
January 29 2014 02:59 GMT
#16491
"everyone has the right to vote"
no republicans applaud, lol!
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15690 Posts
January 29 2014 03:00 GMT
#16492
On January 29 2014 11:59 Roe wrote:
"everyone has the right to vote"
no republicans applaud, lol!


"lol does he really think we should let the lower class vote?"
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
January 29 2014 03:01 GMT
#16493
given that the republicans already proved themselves unworthy to lead, why should they care about votes?
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 29 2014 03:01 GMT
#16494
What did Boehner just stand and clap for?
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
January 29 2014 03:02 GMT
#16495
On January 29 2014 12:01 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
What did Boehner just stand and clap for?

something about military
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 29 2014 03:03 GMT
#16496
Then spy on them Mr. President not on Americans.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15690 Posts
January 29 2014 03:04 GMT
#16497
On January 29 2014 12:02 Roe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2014 12:01 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
What did Boehner just stand and clap for?

something about military

He was probably zoning out and hearing the word "troops" woke him up.
RCMDVA
Profile Joined July 2011
United States708 Posts
January 29 2014 03:05 GMT
#16498
Don't contractors already have to to pay double social security? Like all self employed do?

So $10.10 per hour isn't anything.

I remember one of my first phone interviews when I was looking at doing some contracting and there was a mix-up between $13 and $30.

And I was like.. "Teen" you just said "Teen"? And I ended the interview a few moments later.

Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
January 29 2014 03:06 GMT
#16499
On January 29 2014 12:04 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2014 12:02 Roe wrote:
On January 29 2014 12:01 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
What did Boehner just stand and clap for?

something about military

He was probably zoning out and hearing the word "troops" woke him up.

and then obama's like: let's stop being in endless wars!
and boehner loses his erection
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
January 29 2014 03:07 GMT
#16500
"Close Guantanamo"

Military, front and center, doesn't react at all.
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