EPTOn May 19 2017 03:40 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Thank you almighty employer! Also, I work from home, so that helps.
Thank you almighty employer! Also, I work from home, so that helps.
you both are time-thieves stealing from your employer. fraud is fraud
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IgnE
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Trainrunnef
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On May 19 2017 03:55 Nevuk wrote: https://twitter.com/AP/status/865250855687159808 I yearn for the days when we used to have to wait till 5 or 10PM or even the next day to get the news. This would have never happened back then. | ||
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Plansix
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On May 19 2017 03:58 Trainrunnef wrote: I yearn for the days when we used to have to wait till 5 or 10PM or even the next day to get the news. This would have never happened back then. The good old days with pure logistics and tech limitations prevented our news media from instantly vomiting out every little tidbit of information they receive in 140 characters. | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
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On May 19 2017 03:42 IgnE wrote: it's pretty obvious that it's much easier to make a story you don't want to talk about go away by denying it than by saying "oh yeah, but to truly understand that let me set the context for you and explain why i don't think it is what you think it is." this is like basic political public relations. some of you people are as bad at imagining other minds as zlefin is. maybe you guys should read some novels or something. You are forgetting that they are elected government officials of a high post. You are giving them a mindset like naughty children. By the way, since you are great at imagining the minds of others, tell us what is going on in the mind of Donald Trump. | ||
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ShoCkeyy
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On May 19 2017 03:46 IgnE wrote: you both are time-thieves stealing from your employer. fraud is fraud More like they steal from me, my social life has definitely taken a nose dive since I started to work from home, since I just work most of the time, while trying to handle four different positions... | ||
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Trainrunnef
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On May 19 2017 04:08 Dangermousecatdog wrote: You are forgetting that they are elected government officials of a high post. You are giving them a mindset like naughty children. By the way, since you are great at imagining the minds of others, tell us what is going on in the mind of Donald Trump. Come on, lets not pretend that every single one of us hasn't made an off color joke plenty of times. Just because someone is elected doesn't mean they cant joke or make bad jokes. you just got lucky it wasn't recorded and played back to whomever it was you could have offended with the joke. I'm sure your response would be the same as Ryan's. Hindsight is 20/20 and had he known before hand there was a tape I'm sure his response would have been different, but he didn't and it wasn't... I've said it before and I'll say it again. The media needs to learn to stop crying wolf, or people aren't going to listen when it really matters. Some folks thought I was exaggerating, but this is as big an issue as anything that Trump is doing. There will come a time when Trump is no longer the president, but the media will still be hungry for stories, and lord only knows what they will try to dredge up or blow out of proportion then... | ||
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But that is all it is. It is one article that might have been pushing out a bit hastily. It is not this condemnation of the press as a whole or a reason to wag our fingers at the left for being overzealous. | ||
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Trainrunnef
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On May 19 2017 04:30 Dangermousecatdog wrote: Yes, everyone of us have made jokes. The difference is not only position, but that we don't normally deny to the media the joke has taken place. How many times must this be written? Why are you ok with an elected represented lying to you? There's only so far that tribal loyalty to a political faction can take you before the incongruity goes too far. How many times are you questioned by the media about every single act that you take? My guess is none. have you ever lied to a parent, girlfriend, friend about something equally as inconsequential? My guess is that you assume that our elected folks are somehow, smarter, braver, and honorable. They are not. They are people, humans who fuck up on a regular basis. their partners are probably unhappy because they work too much, their children feel like they never see their parent, just like any other person working hard for something. If he lied about Trump giving russians the Nuclear codes, then off with his head; if he lied about getting a blow job in the back of his car with a prostitute, then send him packing. if he lies about a shitty joke, then all I can do is shake my head, because i really don't care that much. And please... both sides lie dont pretend any side's hands are clean..... | ||
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IgnE
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On May 19 2017 04:08 Dangermousecatdog wrote: You are forgetting that they are elected government officials of a high post. You are giving them a mindset like naughty children. By the way, since you are great at imagining the minds of others, tell us what is going on in the mind of Donald Trump. that would be like trying to imagine what's going on in the mind of a field mouse. | ||
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Trainrunnef
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On May 19 2017 04:36 Trainrunnef wrote: How many times are you questioned by the media about every single act that you take? My guess is none. have you ever lied to a parent, girlfriend, friend about something equally as inconsequential? My guess is that you assume that our elected folks are somehow, smarter, braver, and honorable. They are not. They are people, humans who fuck up on a regular basis. their partners are probably unhappy because they work too much, their children feel like they never see their parent, just like any other person working hard for something. If he lied about Trump giving russians the Nuclear codes, then off with his head; if he lied about getting a blow job in the back of his car with a prostitute, then send him packing. if he lies about a shitty joke, then all I can do is shake my head, because i really don't care that much. And please... both sides lie dont pretend any side's hands are clean..... EDIT: by off color I mean any joke that might be demeaning to a person, whether its body odor, weight, sex, color, penis size, or eye color. | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
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Trainrunnef
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On May 19 2017 04:34 Plansix wrote: I think people are making more out of that article that there real needs to be. It is a joke or it isn’t. The GOP was more than happen to let the Russian hacks help them in the election or they were just kidding around. They are either hiding something or were caught off guard by the Post and responded poorly. Personally, I would love to give the GOP the benefit of the doubt. But the leadership of that party burned through my trust a long time ago and they seem set on winning election at any cost. So I wouldn’t put it past them. But that is all it is. It is one article that might have been pushing out a bit hastily. It is not this condemnation of the press as a whole or a reason to wag our fingers at the left for being overzealous. How many articles have to go out a bit to hastily and get corrected within hours before we recognize a trend? | ||
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Plansix
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On May 19 2017 04:36 Trainrunnef wrote: How many times are you questioned by the media about every single act that you take? My guess is none. have you ever lied to a parent, girlfriend, friend about something equally as inconsequential? My guess is that you assume that our elected folks are somehow, smarter, braver, and honorable. They are not. They are people, humans who fuck up on a regular basis. their partners are probably unhappy because they work too much, their children feel like they never see their parent, just like any other person working hard for something. If he lied about Trump giving russians the Nuclear codes, then off with his head; if he lied about getting a blow job in the back of his car with a prostitute, then send him packing. if he lies about a shitty joke, then all I can do is shake my head, because i really don't care that much. And please... both sides lie dont pretend any side's hands are clean..... I think we should just hold both sides accountable for the same things. I do remember a quote about a lot of coal miners being put out of work being taken out of context and paraded around. Was that a human mistake? Sure. Did the GOP and conservative media run with it? Oh yes. On May 19 2017 04:40 Trainrunnef wrote: How many articles have to go out a bit to hastily and get corrected within hours before we recognize a trend? There have been no corrections to that article. It is either a joke or the GOP leadership laughing about Russia hacking their opponents. The Post not running that story will not stop Fox News from doing its thing. And if the Post doesn’t run the story, the source will go to another reporter and they will. This is problem isn’t solved by self moderation. | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
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On May 19 2017 04:36 Trainrunnef wrote: How many times are you questioned by the media about every single act that you take? My guess is none. have you ever lied to a parent, girlfriend, friend about something equally as inconsequential? My guess is that you assume that our elected folks are somehow, smarter, braver, and honorable. They are not. They are people, humans who fuck up on a regular basis. their partners are probably unhappy because they work too much, their children feel like they never see their parent, just like any other person working hard for something. If he lied about Trump giving russians the Nuclear codes, then off with his head; if he lied about getting a blow job in the back of his car with a prostitute, then send him packing. if he lies about a shitty joke, then all I can do is shake my head, because i really don't care that much. And please... both sides lie dont pretend any side's hands are clean..... Difference is, I'm not questioned by the media as the speaker of the US House of Representatives. There was no reason to deny the conversation took place. Sometimes people fuck up doesn't cut it here. You seem to be under the impression that I am a Democrat, that I am favouring one side or another. I am neither. Plus I literally have no idea why you are talking some gibberish about "humans who fuck up on a regular basis. their partners are probably unhappy because they work too much, their children feel like they never see their parent, just like any other person working hard for something." What are you even talking about at this point? A Trumpist attempt at empathy or something? | ||
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On May 19 2017 04:45 Dangermousecatdog wrote: Difference is, I'm not questioned by the media as the speaker of the US House of Representatives. There was no reason to deny the conversation took place. Sometimes people fuck up doesn't cut it here. Plus I literally have no idea why you are talking some gibberish about "humans who fuck up on a regular basis. their partners are probably unhappy because they work too much, their children feel like they never see their parent, just like any other person working hard for something." What are you even talking about at this point? A Trumpist attempt at empathy or something? This is a standard Trumpist obfuscation. He is implicitly mixing up the standards that a career government official should be held to, the standards the elected President of the United States should be held to, and the standards the lowest common denominator person you know in real life should be held do. It is a not very clever attempt at dialing down the standards and whataboutisming using your dumb friends as examples. | ||
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Mr. Rosenstein’s closed briefing with senators ended around 3:15 p.m., and some of the attendees stopped to talk to reporters afterward. “It was a counterintelligence investigation before now,” Senator Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina, said after he exited the briefing. “I think it’s now being considered a criminal investigation.” Mr. Graham said Mr. Mueller, in his new role as special counsel, was likely to “jealously guard” information. “One of the big losers in this discussion is the public,” he said. He called whomever Mr. Trump may select as the new F.B.I. director “one of the winners,” for not having to worry about the inquiry. www.nytimes.com Remember when trump's supporters bought the "memo" pretext hook, line and sinker? | ||
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Trainrunnef
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On May 19 2017 04:45 Dangermousecatdog wrote: Difference is, I'm not questioned by the media as the speaker of the US House of Representatives. There was no reason to deny the conversation took place. Sometimes people fuck up doesn't cut it here. Plus I literally have no idea why you are talking some gibberish about "humans who fuck up on a regular basis. their partners are probably unhappy because they work too much, their children feel like they never see their parent, just like any other person working hard for something." What are you even talking about at this point? A Trumpist attempt at empathy or something? Seriously.... if you have no idea about who I am or what i stand for I suggest you stop your brilliant inference there sherlock. anyone who frequents the thread and has read my posts is under no belief that I in any way ally with Trump, and I have written several posts about how unfit he is to be in the office of the presidency. I suggest you take a long look in the mirror and recognize yourself part of the problem in political discourse today. The point i was trying to make which you somehow both understood and totally missed is that their job title does not make them more or less human and error prone. That that explanation isn't sufficient for you is not my problem, but yours. I dont expect politicians to be perfect, just like i didn't expect hillary to be perfect. People make decisions based on the information they have at the time, sometimes its a good decision sometimes its a terrible decision. Ryan denied the conversation- terrible decision, but I refuse to attribute to malice what I can attribute to sheer stupidity, and I'm sure you can agree that our elected politicians fit that bill. There are more important things for me to criticize Ryan. This stupid joke frankly just isn't worth the time. | ||
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