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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 14 2017 21:58 GMT
#150501
House Republicans just voted to slash hundreds of billions of dollars in health care for the poor as part of their Obamacare replacement. Now, they’re weighing a plan to take the scalpel to programs that provide meals to needy kids and housing and education assistance for low-income families.

President Donald Trump’s refusal to overhaul Social Security and Medicare — and his pricey wish-list for infrastructure, a border wall and tax cuts — is sending House budget writers scouring for pennies in politically sensitive places: safety-net programs for the most vulnerable.

Under enormous internal pressure to quickly balance the budget, Republicans are considering slashing more than $400 billion in spending through a process to evade Democratic filibusters in the Senate, multiple sources told POLITICO.

The proposal, which would be part of the House Budget Committee's fiscal 2018 budget, won't specify which programs would get the ax; instead it will instruct committees to figure out what to cut to reach the savings. But among the programs most likely on the chopping block, the sources say, are food stamps, welfare, income assistance for the disabled and perhaps even veterans benefits.

If enacted, such a plan to curb safety-net programs — all while juicing the Pentagon’s budget and slicing corporate tax rates — would amount to the biggest shift in federal spending priorities in decades.

Atop that, GOP budget writers will also likely include Speaker Paul Ryan’s (R-Wis.) proposal to essentially privatize Medicare in their fiscal 2018 budget, despite Trump’s unwavering rejection of the idea. While that proposal is more symbolic and won’t become law under this budget, it’s just another thorny issue that will have Democrats again accusing Republicans of “pushing Granny off the cliff.”

“The Budget Committee is trying to force the entire conference and committees of jurisdiction to focus on ways to bring down this deficit,” said senior budget panel member Rep. Tom Cole. Republicans have long sought to tackle the nearly $20 trillion debt, but Trump has tied their hands by ruling out cuts to Social Security and Medicare.

The Oklahoma Republican, however, acknowledged that mandatory spending reductions could become “very tough issues” — though he declined to name which programs would see major cuts: “These are hard for anybody, no matter where you’re at on the political spectrum.”

While budget writers are well aware of the sensitive nature of their proposal, they feel they have no choice if they want to balance the budget in a decade, which they’ve proposed for years, and give Trump what he wants.

Enraged by Democrats claiming victory after last month’s government funding agreement, White House officials in recent weeks have pressed Hill Republicans to include more Trump priorities in the fiscal 2018 blueprint.

House Budget Republicans hope to incorporate those wishes and are expected, for example, to budget for Trump’s infrastructure plan. Tax reform instructions will also be included in the budget, paving the way for both chambers to use the powerful budget reconciliation process to push a partisan tax bill through Congress on simple majority votes, as well as the $400 billion in mandatory cuts.


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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23493 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-14 22:08:36
May 14 2017 22:03 GMT
#150502
On May 15 2017 06:14 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2017 05:53 xDaunt wrote:
On May 15 2017 05:30 Plansix wrote:
Also today:


Clapper can go fuck himself. What does he think Trump was elected to do? And saying something like "our institutions are under attack" is needlessly vague and inflammatory.

Clappers going to do what he thinks is best for the county. And use whatever language he thinks is accurate to what is happening. Sorry, your boy is a terrible leader.


Clapper is the guy who perjured himself about the most massive 4th amendment violation in history in front of congress (without going to prison) right?

On May 15 2017 06:56 Nevuk wrote:
It is all really an argument to make the house much larger and allow it to be attended remotely.

Also, I can't wait until Trump causes a diplomatic incident by sending a famous chefs steak back to be cooked until its so well done it bounces off the plate and then smothering it in ketchup. I foresee this happening in France



If the hyperbolic stereotypes I grew up with are any gauge I could see him being kicked out by a French chef and then when people hear about what happened banned from France altogether.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
May 14 2017 23:03 GMT
#150503
On May 15 2017 05:53 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2017 05:30 Plansix wrote:
Also today:

https://twitter.com/AP_Politics/status/863798328143876099

Clapper can go fuck himself. What does he think Trump was elected to do? And saying something like "our institutions are under attack" is needlessly vague and inflammatory.

So what you're saying is he absolutely knows his audience. They demand vague accusations and inflammatory rhetoric. Clapper, like other ex-Obama guys and Obama-holdover-leakers, is serving up the buffet.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35163 Posts
May 14 2017 23:08 GMT
#150504
On May 15 2017 08:03 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2017 05:53 xDaunt wrote:
On May 15 2017 05:30 Plansix wrote:
Also today:

https://twitter.com/AP_Politics/status/863798328143876099

Clapper can go fuck himself. What does he think Trump was elected to do? And saying something like "our institutions are under attack" is needlessly vague and inflammatory.

So what you're saying is he absolutely knows his audience. They demand vague accusations and inflammatory rhetoric. Clapper, like other ex-Obama guys and Obama-holdover-leakers, is serving up the buffet.

Sounds like they learned from watching Republicans the last decade or so.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 14 2017 23:24 GMT
#150505
On May 15 2017 08:08 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2017 08:03 Danglars wrote:
On May 15 2017 05:53 xDaunt wrote:
On May 15 2017 05:30 Plansix wrote:
Also today:

https://twitter.com/AP_Politics/status/863798328143876099

Clapper can go fuck himself. What does he think Trump was elected to do? And saying something like "our institutions are under attack" is needlessly vague and inflammatory.

So what you're saying is he absolutely knows his audience. They demand vague accusations and inflammatory rhetoric. Clapper, like other ex-Obama guys and Obama-holdover-leakers, is serving up the buffet.

Sounds like they learned from watching Republicans the last decade or so.

Remember when Comey wrote that letter to Republicans in congress and they instantly leaked it. That was fun.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
May 14 2017 23:51 GMT
#150506
On May 15 2017 08:03 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2017 05:53 xDaunt wrote:
On May 15 2017 05:30 Plansix wrote:
Also today:

https://twitter.com/AP_Politics/status/863798328143876099

Clapper can go fuck himself. What does he think Trump was elected to do? And saying something like "our institutions are under attack" is needlessly vague and inflammatory.

So what you're saying is he absolutely knows his audience. They demand vague accusations and inflammatory rhetoric. Clapper, like other ex-Obama guys and Obama-holdover-leakers, is serving up the buffet.

Exactly. Clapper is clearly a political hack. Extolling him as a champion of civic virtue is laughably hollow.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35163 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-15 00:02:43
May 15 2017 00:02 GMT
#150507
On May 15 2017 08:24 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2017 08:08 Gahlo wrote:
On May 15 2017 08:03 Danglars wrote:
On May 15 2017 05:53 xDaunt wrote:
On May 15 2017 05:30 Plansix wrote:
Also today:

https://twitter.com/AP_Politics/status/863798328143876099

Clapper can go fuck himself. What does he think Trump was elected to do? And saying something like "our institutions are under attack" is needlessly vague and inflammatory.

So what you're saying is he absolutely knows his audience. They demand vague accusations and inflammatory rhetoric. Clapper, like other ex-Obama guys and Obama-holdover-leakers, is serving up the buffet.

Sounds like they learned from watching Republicans the last decade or so.

Remember when Comey wrote that letter to Republicans in congress and they instantly leaked it. That was fun.

Ah, yes, back when leaks were good because it exposed the problems in our government that the Orange Savior was going to fix while he BUILT THE WALL, LOCKED HER UP, BANNED THE MUSLIMS, and DRAINED THE SWAMP.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
May 15 2017 00:11 GMT
#150508
It's amazing how quickly long-time critics of intelligence are willing to throw that all away simply because they're willing to speak against Trump now. And how, seeing how bad what the Republicans did in Congress was, can't even consider how bad an idea it would be to repeat the exact same form of partisan hackery now that Democrats are the opposition.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
May 15 2017 00:21 GMT
#150509
On May 15 2017 09:11 LegalLord wrote:
It's amazing how quickly long-time critics of intelligence are willing to throw that all away simply because they're willing to speak against Trump now. And how, seeing how bad what the Republicans did in Congress was, can't even consider how bad an idea it would be to repeat the exact same form of partisan hackery now that Democrats are the opposition.

why would it be amazing? the exact same thing happens all the time; like with so many republicans being so friendly to russia, plus countless other issues throughout the entire history of politics everywhere; political expedience and group identities dictate a lot of discourse (and it's made more confusing cuz the other side tries to selectively note those statements to make it appear more hypocritical than it already would be).

Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
May 15 2017 00:23 GMT
#150510
On May 15 2017 05:53 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2017 05:30 Plansix wrote:
Also today:

https://twitter.com/AP_Politics/status/863798328143876099

Clapper can go fuck himself. What does he think Trump was elected to do? And saying something like "our institutions are under attack" is needlessly vague and inflammatory.

it's also accurate, so there's that. not that I care about clapper at all.
something more specific and inflammatory would be nicer though; but it is twitter after all; gotta expect people to be kinda vague on twitter.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
May 15 2017 00:29 GMT
#150511
I'm ready for Trump to launch a full blown inquisition of the administrative state. Part of it must include clearing out the dead wood in his administration. I'm inclined to think that some of the establishment types (like Priebus) are part of the problem. What Trump has in place clearly isn't working for him, so he needs to clear the board and start over. The sooner he commits to this, the better.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28716 Posts
May 15 2017 00:35 GMT
#150512
The problems surrounding Trump's administration are going to persist as long as there is a Trump administration. He is by a significant margin the least competent person in any prominent position.
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zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-15 00:38:27
May 15 2017 00:36 GMT
#150513
sounds like a good way to get himself removed from office; go for it.
the notion that anything will work for trump is rather unfounded though.

wouldn't claering out the dead wood mean removing himself? sounds great!
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
May 15 2017 01:22 GMT
#150514
On May 15 2017 05:53 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2017 05:30 Plansix wrote:
Also today:

https://twitter.com/AP_Politics/status/863798328143876099

Clapper can go fuck himself. What does he think Trump was elected to do? And saying something like "our institutions are under attack" is needlessly vague and inflammatory.


Well if he was elected to destroy the government them I'm sorry but you and your great leader are fighting against the constitution and apparently everyone that's not a partisan republican.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 15 2017 01:25 GMT
#150515
On May 15 2017 09:29 xDaunt wrote:
I'm ready for Trump to launch a full blown inquisition of the administrative state. Part of it must include clearing out the dead wood in his administration. I'm inclined to think that some of the establishment types (like Priebus) are part of the problem. What Trump has in place clearly isn't working for him, so he needs to clear the board and start over. The sooner he commits to this, the better.

The administrative state is filled with people more skilled and intelligent that Trump's squad of losers and has-beens.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
May 15 2017 01:44 GMT
#150516
Clearing out the administrative state means even more pathetic, ill-advised, and irrational courses of action. He is not willing to pay that price unless he can bomb some people to counterbalance the fall in his poll numbers.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24743 Posts
May 15 2017 02:51 GMT
#150517
Whoo I finally caught up...

I got a real kick at the headlines about going back to steam catapults on carriers. It seems like those in this thread who brought up the topic had a pretty good idea of how unfeasible it is to 'go back to goddamned steam,' but the more detailed your knowledge of carriers the more ridiculous the idea seems. How would we go back to steam catapults on new carriers? That doesn't even address the issue of whether or not that would be a good idea, were it feasible.

As I expected, for the week I was away there were a fair number of bombshell headlines in the news. The theme of this administration seems to be, you can't write this and fact is stranger than fiction.
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NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
May 15 2017 02:55 GMT
#150518
The sheer irony of many of the headlines has given me quite a few laughs, I'll admit, despite how disturbing it actually adds up to be. You can't make up the shit that's going on right now.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
biology]major
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2253 Posts
May 15 2017 03:10 GMT
#150519
Any truth to Comey testifying in public or was that just some rumor
Question.?
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35163 Posts
May 15 2017 03:26 GMT
#150520
On May 15 2017 12:10 biology]major wrote:
Any truth to Comey testifying in public or was that just some rumor

According to this NYT article it's just word from a "close associate" of his.
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