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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States23250 Posts
On April 19 2017 11:29 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: So just by looking at the GA race it seems whoever supports Trump or his policies ends up being worse off regardless of the outcome. Not good. Now we get to watch Democrats explain why it makes sense for them to dump money into a race where in 2016 the Democrat lost by 20%+ and the guy can't even vote for himself because he doesn't live in his district. After just explaining why doing that is something they wouldn't do. | ||
ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
the 6th district loved tom price, not so big on trump. ossoff grew up there and lives about a mile outside. hardly a carpetbagger. he was a % or two off from winning outright. it's more or less a battle of attrition now. keep the dem voters engaged while trying nuking handel frm orbit with whatever oppo is available. | ||
Gahlo
United States35154 Posts
The guy grew up in the district and has said he's living where he is until his girlfriend finishes medical school that isn't very far away. He'll be moving back right afterwards. | ||
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KwarK
United States42778 Posts
On April 19 2017 12:56 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: https://twitter.com/AP/status/854523686300397568 Unironic thanks Obama time. | ||
Karis Vas Ryaar
United States4396 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States23250 Posts
On April 19 2017 13:36 Gahlo wrote: Welp, he's under 50% now so it looks like it's going to the runoff. The guy grew up in the district and has said he's living where he is until his girlfriend finishes medical school that isn't very far away. He'll be moving back right afterwards. Which doesn't sell well when it's countered with the overwhelming majority of his financial support is from outside the district or even state. ' That said, sure, support him, he's better than a Republican, but don't act like this is totally fitting of the 50 state strategy and blowing any opportunity they had in KS was too. They shafted the guy in KS because he was a Bernie supporter, not the BS excuses they gave. | ||
Gahlo
United States35154 Posts
On April 19 2017 13:41 GreenHorizons wrote: Which doesn't sell well when it's countered with the overwhelming majority of his financial support is from outside the district or even state. ' That said, sure, support him, he's better than a Republican, but don't act like this is totally fitting of the 50 state strategy and blowing any opportunity they had in KS was too. They shafted the guy in KS because he was a Bernie supporter, not the BS excuses they gave. You're infering an awful lot of subtext for things I've never discussed in this thread. | ||
ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
but that doesnt support the narrative of the democratic party is literally messing up everywhere, i guess. | ||
GreenHorizons
United States23250 Posts
On April 19 2017 13:53 Gahlo wrote: You're infering an awful lot of subtext for things I've never discussed in this thread. Only the first part was for you, the second part was screaming into the wind at the Democratic party and their loyalists. | ||
MinoMoto
Latvia107 Posts
Footage of what appeared to be a new intermediate-range ballistic missile being fired and the missile crossing the Pacific and hitting an unidentified city of the U.S. was shown on a giant screen at the performance hall, according to the state-run TV station. After the simulated attack, footage of burning the Stars and Stripes was shown, overlapped with an image of a cemetery, it reported. It was unveiled during the performance Sunday by the State Merited Chorus for participants of a military parade marking the 105th birthday of Kim Il-sung, the grandfather of current leader Kim Jong-un. source | ||
Biff The Understudy
France7890 Posts
On April 19 2017 18:02 MinoMoto wrote: SEOUL, April 19 (Yonhap) -- North Korea has unveiled footage of a simulated missile attack on the United States at the latest performance to mark the birthday of late state founder Kim Il-sung, Pyongyang's media reported Wednesday. Footage of what appeared to be a new intermediate-range ballistic missile being fired and the missile crossing the Pacific and hitting an unidentified city of the U.S. was shown on a giant screen at the performance hall, according to the state-run TV station. After the simulated attack, footage of burning the Stars and Stripes was shown, overlapped with an image of a cemetery, it reported. It was unveiled during the performance Sunday by the State Merited Chorus for participants of a military parade marking the 105th birthday of Kim Il-sung, the grandfather of current leader Kim Jong-un. video source I think the only way to understand the morbid paranoic madness of NK is to read George Orwell. Keep the people in line by promising them fountains of blood of imaginary ennemies, by cultivating a state of permanent siege, war and emergency, and inventing and repeating ad nauseam a narrative of a grand final victory that will never happen. It's really amazing how closely to 1984 that country has developped. | ||
Acrofales
Spain18004 Posts
On April 19 2017 05:24 LegalLord wrote: I must say, your inability to come to terms with the circumstances under which you supported Iraq - and the contortions that you use to justify it in hindsight - are quite impressive. A show of full support for any mistakes that would be as obvious as the Iraq one (with a willingness to lap up any comparable "lies"), and yet a nominal disagreement with Iraq itself. It is perhaps notable that many of our more warmongering elements complain most about that Iraq wasn't the first (ill-advised, but they don't put it that way) war that ever happened but it's one that turned people more definitively against foreign intervention in a far more sustained fashion than in the past. Not any one reason for that. But nevertheless, it is true that people sympathize with that element of Trump's campaign. I do find it interesting on your general insistence on "I been there, I know how things work, no one else does cuz no one else was there the way I was there." Especially when it's generally full of incomplete and particularly obtuse feels-based interpretations of all events (e.g. not bothering to find out how long I was in the US before running your mouth), with little regard as to actually discovering the truth of any situation. It's the kind of attitude that will make you a front-line cheerleader for the next Iraq - though after a few years when what was obviously terrible and short-sighted turns out to be so, you will take a feels-based approach to claim you was lied to and that that's why everything is bad. Your selective rewriting of history never ceases to amuse me. The US didn't want to get involved in WW1, WW2 and had the largest riots and demonstrations in recent history to get the fuck out of Nam, which is to this day still a national trauma. Post-Iraq sentiment is not a new or even remarkable exemplar of American isolationism. | ||
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/18/world/asia/aircraft-carrier-north-korea-carl-vinson.html The problem was that the carrier, the Carl Vinson, and the three other warships in its strike force were that very moment sailing in the opposite direction, to take part in joint exercises with the Australian Navy in the Indian Ocean, 3,500 miles southwest of the Korean Peninsula. White House officials said Tuesday that they had been relying on guidance from the Defense Department. Officials there described a glitch-ridden sequence of events, from an ill-timed announcement of the deployment by the military’s Pacific Command to a partially erroneous explanation by the defense secretary, Jim Mattis — all of which perpetuated the false narrative that a flotilla was racing toward the waters off North Korea. | ||
Ghostcom
Denmark4782 Posts
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LightSpectra
United States1536 Posts
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KwarK
United States42778 Posts
On April 19 2017 22:41 LightSpectra wrote: Well good to hear that Trump is ok with the Iran deal now, now if whoever convinced him of that could also do the same for North Korea and Syra that'd be fantastic. North Korea and Iran couldn't be two more dissimilar situations. | ||
Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On April 19 2017 23:25 KwarK wrote: North Korea and Iran couldn't be two more dissimilar situations. The same with Syria. That civil war rose up all on its own. | ||
LightSpectra
United States1536 Posts
On April 19 2017 23:25 KwarK wrote: North Korea and Iran couldn't be two more dissimilar situations. They're actually not quite so different: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agreed_Framework The U.S. negotiated a deal with NK in 1994, where they would freeze their research into nuclear power/weapons in exchange for light water reactors. But it was terminated by George W. Bush. On April 19 2017 23:29 Plansix wrote: The same with Syria. That civil war rose up all on its own. Syria's a much different case, granted. But if the doves can win over Trump on Iran and NK, it's possible they can do the same on Syria. | ||
farvacola
United States18828 Posts
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