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On October 29 2016 04:33 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 04:25 KwarK wrote:On October 29 2016 04:24 GreenHorizons wrote:On October 29 2016 04:18 Gorsameth wrote:On October 29 2016 03:51 LegalLord wrote:On October 29 2016 03:50 Piledriver wrote:
I'm just sad that the Democrats nominated Clinton. Anyone else, especially Biden or Bernie would have just carried this election in a landslide. I find it pretty ironic that the biggest argument in favor of nominating Hillary was that she is so ungodly electable that it would be folly to choose someone else. No the biggest argument in favor of Hillary was that Bernie did not have a clue as to how he was going to get any of his idea's implemented. Hillary does and her idea's are just Bernie light anyway. This is Hillary's version of "Believe me, we'll get the best people". There's little to no substance behind it, but people just keep saying it. That's why every time I ask specifically what she'll pass that Bernie wouldn't have and how, no one has anything. Minimum wage hike? Bernie's plan depended upon a sweeping revolution that ended all obstructionism and brought everyone from all sides of the political spectrum into the far left somehow. So the idea is that Bernie would have rather taken no minimum wage hike over one less than he desired? Except he already admitted that he's asking for a whole loaf expecting half a loaf, instead of asking for half a loaf and getting crumbs. So I reject your suggestion that he would only get a min wage hike with a sweeping political revolution, maybe a $15/hr wage, but not an increase. Pretty sure every Democratic president has raised minimum wage anyway though, so that's kind of a given. The idea that Bernie wants it his way or no way is a fiction that disregards some of the other primary attacks made by Clinton and his endorsement of her.
Hillary shows up with experts and studies showing that $12 federal is the most likely one that can get down that would help the most states while punishing the least states. Bernie counters by saying that Hillary is against a minimum wage hike. Difficult to work with is a common theme amongst people who have worked for him. Even his touted "I worked with McCain for a veterans bill" has McCain describing the experience as a lot of yelling.
Theres a reason Bernie only really won low turnout states that made it difficult for voters to vote.
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Well the quality of the thread has been increased 1000% by the inclusion of Kim.com, a man desperately seeking relevance.
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Carlos Danger strikes again.
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On October 29 2016 05:50 DannyJ wrote:
Carlos Danger strikes again.
If the girl he was sexting was a few years older this revelation wouldn't have occured
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On October 29 2016 05:51 biology]major wrote:If the girl he was sexting was a few years older this revelation wouldn't have occured
On October 29 2016 02:54 biology]major wrote:
The dream is coming true boys, I'm sure whatever Comey found was pretty fucking huge to reopen a case 11 days before the election. Holy shit. What if she wins and then Comey recommends charges
On October 29 2016 02:59 biology]major wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 02:58 WolfintheSheep wrote:On October 29 2016 02:54 biology]major wrote:
The dream is coming true boys, I'm sure whatever Comey found was pretty fucking huge to reopen a case 11 days before the election. Holy shit. What if she wins and then Comey recommends charges The point of reopening investigations is that they haven't even looked yet, so there is nothing "found". Hence the word "investigation". Nah, there is no way he had the balls to open a case 11 days before a fucking election unless he had something.
RIP.
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On October 29 2016 04:24 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 04:18 Gorsameth wrote:On October 29 2016 03:51 LegalLord wrote:On October 29 2016 03:50 Piledriver wrote:
I'm just sad that the Democrats nominated Clinton. Anyone else, especially Biden or Bernie would have just carried this election in a landslide. I find it pretty ironic that the biggest argument in favor of nominating Hillary was that she is so ungodly electable that it would be folly to choose someone else. No the biggest argument in favor of Hillary was that Bernie did not have a clue as to how he was going to get any of his idea's implemented. Hillary does and her idea's are just Bernie light anyway. This is Hillary's version of "Believe me, we'll get the best people". There's little to no substance behind it, but people just keep saying it. That's why every time I ask specifically what she'll pass that Bernie wouldn't have and how, no one has anything.
One of (if not the) biggest proposal for Bernie was the Banking reform. And he got completely exposed as being clueless about it in a Daily news interview
www.nydailynews.com
After it came out you could see a significant change in this thread where people moved away from Bernie towards Hillary based on his lack of knowledge on how to implement his ideas.
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On October 29 2016 05:45 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 05:37 TheTenthDoc wrote:
I don't think Comey deserves blame for thinking that people in the legislature might act with a modicum of self-restraint and thoughtful consideration.
That said, I am not sure it's appropriate to not do a formal follow-up after the legislators decide to act like twats so that we're not relying on sometimes-conflicting "sources" with respect to a story like this.
What sort of time line are we looking at here? From what I gather this entire exchange from stupid tweet to further classification took about 2 hours? I don't think that is an excessive amount of time to react. Its not like the FBI monitors twitter for stupid congressmen tweeting without context so they can 'emergency respond' to it.
Oh, I don't think he's acted inappropriately yet. It's unfortunate they can't instantly respond, but something within 24 hours of the stupid congresspeople would be reasonable I think, and depending on the depth of the response I could see giving more time.
But doing nothing would have been/would be awful.
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On October 29 2016 05:55 ticklishmusic wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 05:51 biology]major wrote:On October 29 2016 05:50 DannyJ wrote:
Carlos Danger strikes again. If the girl he was sexting was a few years older this revelation wouldn't have occured Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 02:54 biology]major wrote:
The dream is coming true boys, I'm sure whatever Comey found was pretty fucking huge to reopen a case 11 days before the election. Holy shit. What if she wins and then Comey recommends charges Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 02:59 biology]major wrote:On October 29 2016 02:58 WolfintheSheep wrote:On October 29 2016 02:54 biology]major wrote:
The dream is coming true boys, I'm sure whatever Comey found was pretty fucking huge to reopen a case 11 days before the election. Holy shit. What if she wins and then Comey recommends charges The point of reopening investigations is that they haven't even looked yet, so there is nothing "found". Hence the word "investigation". Nah, there is no way he had the balls to open a case 11 days before a fucking election unless he had something. RIP.
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That's a rich tweet, Donald Trump, who everyone knows is a Russian puppet being propped up by Vladimir Putin and his global alt-right network, is McCarthyist.
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On October 29 2016 05:59 oBlade wrote:
That's a rich tweet, Donald Trump, who everyone knows is a Russian puppet being propped up by Vladimir Putin and his global alt-right network, is McCarthyist.
If you don't think Trump reaches conclusions and spreads innuendo based on a total lack of evidence, like McCarthy did, I have a bridge to sell you.
Edit: And that's exactly what the tweet says. Not that he hates commies.
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On October 29 2016 05:55 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 04:24 GreenHorizons wrote:On October 29 2016 04:18 Gorsameth wrote:On October 29 2016 03:51 LegalLord wrote:On October 29 2016 03:50 Piledriver wrote:
I'm just sad that the Democrats nominated Clinton. Anyone else, especially Biden or Bernie would have just carried this election in a landslide. I find it pretty ironic that the biggest argument in favor of nominating Hillary was that she is so ungodly electable that it would be folly to choose someone else. No the biggest argument in favor of Hillary was that Bernie did not have a clue as to how he was going to get any of his idea's implemented. Hillary does and her idea's are just Bernie light anyway. This is Hillary's version of "Believe me, we'll get the best people". There's little to no substance behind it, but people just keep saying it. That's why every time I ask specifically what she'll pass that Bernie wouldn't have and how, no one has anything. One of (if not the) biggest proposal for Bernie was the Banking reform. And he got completely exposed as being clueless about it in a Daily news interview www.nydailynews.comAfter it came out you could see a significant change in this thread where people moved away from Bernie towards Hillary based on his lack of knowledge on how to implement his ideas.
It's incredible to me that people could interpret him not mentioning something he had explained in detail before so uncharitably while simultaneously being so charitable to Hillary's intentional vagueness, secrecy, and deception.
Not sure what policy that gets passed by her that Bernie wouldn't have passed. Unless the idea is that Hillary would take her ball and go home if she lost the election and put none of her efforts/connections toward implementing the policy changes she wants if she couldn't be the one to sign it into law.
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On October 29 2016 05:59 oBlade wrote:
That's a rich tweet, Donald Trump, who everyone knows is a Russian puppet being propped up by Vladimir Putin and his global alt-right network, is McCarthyist.
In the words of Donald Trump, there's "something going on" with Obama and radical Islamic terrorism.
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On October 29 2016 06:02 TheTenthDoc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 05:59 oBlade wrote:
That's a rich tweet, Donald Trump, who everyone knows is a Russian puppet being propped up by Vladimir Putin and his global alt-right network, is McCarthyist. If you don't think Trump reaches conclusions and spreads innuendo based on a total lack of evidence, like McCarthy did, I have a bridge to sell you. Edit: And that's exactly what the tweet says. Not that he hates commies.
Keep the bridge and get over it. Also, work on some new and original lines, this thread has enough bridge salesmen.
What McCarthy did was use authority and pretense as tools to actually imprison people and destroy their careers and lives. It's not McCarthyist simply to say something you disagree with.
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Oh look. People assumed Clinton wrongdoing based on zero information again. Turned out the same way it always turns out.
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On October 29 2016 06:12 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 06:02 TheTenthDoc wrote:On October 29 2016 05:59 oBlade wrote:
That's a rich tweet, Donald Trump, who everyone knows is a Russian puppet being propped up by Vladimir Putin and his global alt-right network, is McCarthyist. If you don't think Trump reaches conclusions and spreads innuendo based on a total lack of evidence, like McCarthy did, I have a bridge to sell you. Edit: And that's exactly what the tweet says. Not that he hates commies. Keep the bridge and get over it. Also, work on some new and original lines, this thread has enough bridge salesmen. What McCarthy did was use authority and pretense as tools to actually imprison people and destroy their careers and lives. It's not McCarthyist simply to say something you disagree with.
Trump doesn't spread innuendo and reach conclusions with 0 evidence because he says things I disagree with. He spreads innuendo and reaches conclusions with 0 evidence because he tweets things are terror attacks before any official confirmation, says these emails are worse than Watergate, says judges are unfit to preside over his cases when they are Mexican, and believes he knows better than U.S. military intelligence. Oh, and says over and over again that HRC coordinated his accusers with 0 evidence about that, too. And that there are tens of thousands of dead people voting.
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On October 29 2016 06:06 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 05:55 Gorsameth wrote:On October 29 2016 04:24 GreenHorizons wrote:On October 29 2016 04:18 Gorsameth wrote:On October 29 2016 03:51 LegalLord wrote:On October 29 2016 03:50 Piledriver wrote:
I'm just sad that the Democrats nominated Clinton. Anyone else, especially Biden or Bernie would have just carried this election in a landslide. I find it pretty ironic that the biggest argument in favor of nominating Hillary was that she is so ungodly electable that it would be folly to choose someone else. No the biggest argument in favor of Hillary was that Bernie did not have a clue as to how he was going to get any of his idea's implemented. Hillary does and her idea's are just Bernie light anyway. This is Hillary's version of "Believe me, we'll get the best people". There's little to no substance behind it, but people just keep saying it. That's why every time I ask specifically what she'll pass that Bernie wouldn't have and how, no one has anything. One of (if not the) biggest proposal for Bernie was the Banking reform. And he got completely exposed as being clueless about it in a Daily news interview www.nydailynews.comAfter it came out you could see a significant change in this thread where people moved away from Bernie towards Hillary based on his lack of knowledge on how to implement his ideas. It's incredible to me that people could interpret him not mentioning something he had explained in detail before so uncharitably while simultaneously being so charitable to Hillary's intentional vagueness, secrecy, and deception. Not sure what policy that gets passed by her that Bernie wouldn't have passed. Unless the idea is that Hillary would take her ball and go home if she lost the election and put none of her efforts/connections toward implementing the policy changes she wants if she couldn't be the one to sign it into law.
If you're argument against Hilary is that she would get the same things passed as Bernie, then what is your argument against Hillary?
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On October 29 2016 06:17 Thieving Magpie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 06:06 GreenHorizons wrote:On October 29 2016 05:55 Gorsameth wrote:On October 29 2016 04:24 GreenHorizons wrote:On October 29 2016 04:18 Gorsameth wrote:On October 29 2016 03:51 LegalLord wrote:On October 29 2016 03:50 Piledriver wrote:
I'm just sad that the Democrats nominated Clinton. Anyone else, especially Biden or Bernie would have just carried this election in a landslide. I find it pretty ironic that the biggest argument in favor of nominating Hillary was that she is so ungodly electable that it would be folly to choose someone else. No the biggest argument in favor of Hillary was that Bernie did not have a clue as to how he was going to get any of his idea's implemented. Hillary does and her idea's are just Bernie light anyway. This is Hillary's version of "Believe me, we'll get the best people". There's little to no substance behind it, but people just keep saying it. That's why every time I ask specifically what she'll pass that Bernie wouldn't have and how, no one has anything. One of (if not the) biggest proposal for Bernie was the Banking reform. And he got completely exposed as being clueless about it in a Daily news interview www.nydailynews.comAfter it came out you could see a significant change in this thread where people moved away from Bernie towards Hillary based on his lack of knowledge on how to implement his ideas. It's incredible to me that people could interpret him not mentioning something he had explained in detail before so uncharitably while simultaneously being so charitable to Hillary's intentional vagueness, secrecy, and deception. Not sure what policy that gets passed by her that Bernie wouldn't have passed. Unless the idea is that Hillary would take her ball and go home if she lost the election and put none of her efforts/connections toward implementing the policy changes she wants if she couldn't be the one to sign it into law. If you're argument against Hilary is that she would get the same things passed as Bernie, then what is your argument against Hillary?
That Bernie could get more, or worst case get what she would have. Plus there's plenty of stuff I think Hillary will pass that Bernie wouldn't, it's just stuff like increased fracking.
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On October 29 2016 06:29 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 06:17 Thieving Magpie wrote:On October 29 2016 06:06 GreenHorizons wrote:On October 29 2016 05:55 Gorsameth wrote:On October 29 2016 04:24 GreenHorizons wrote:On October 29 2016 04:18 Gorsameth wrote:On October 29 2016 03:51 LegalLord wrote:On October 29 2016 03:50 Piledriver wrote:
I'm just sad that the Democrats nominated Clinton. Anyone else, especially Biden or Bernie would have just carried this election in a landslide. I find it pretty ironic that the biggest argument in favor of nominating Hillary was that she is so ungodly electable that it would be folly to choose someone else. No the biggest argument in favor of Hillary was that Bernie did not have a clue as to how he was going to get any of his idea's implemented. Hillary does and her idea's are just Bernie light anyway. This is Hillary's version of "Believe me, we'll get the best people". There's little to no substance behind it, but people just keep saying it. That's why every time I ask specifically what she'll pass that Bernie wouldn't have and how, no one has anything. One of (if not the) biggest proposal for Bernie was the Banking reform. And he got completely exposed as being clueless about it in a Daily news interview www.nydailynews.comAfter it came out you could see a significant change in this thread where people moved away from Bernie towards Hillary based on his lack of knowledge on how to implement his ideas. It's incredible to me that people could interpret him not mentioning something he had explained in detail before so uncharitably while simultaneously being so charitable to Hillary's intentional vagueness, secrecy, and deception. Not sure what policy that gets passed by her that Bernie wouldn't have passed. Unless the idea is that Hillary would take her ball and go home if she lost the election and put none of her efforts/connections toward implementing the policy changes she wants if she couldn't be the one to sign it into law. If you're argument against Hilary is that she would get the same things passed as Bernie, then what is your argument against Hillary? That Bernie could get more, or worst case get what she would have. Plus there's plenty of stuff I think Hillary will pass that Bernie wouldn't, it's just stuff like increased fracking.
Bernie couldn't even get his supporters to vote and was facing a hostile house and congress. He folded when interviewed by liberal papers. And somehow you think he could get more than Hillary? Now you're just trolling this thread.
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On October 29 2016 06:17 TheTenthDoc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 06:12 oBlade wrote:On October 29 2016 06:02 TheTenthDoc wrote:On October 29 2016 05:59 oBlade wrote:
That's a rich tweet, Donald Trump, who everyone knows is a Russian puppet being propped up by Vladimir Putin and his global alt-right network, is McCarthyist. If you don't think Trump reaches conclusions and spreads innuendo based on a total lack of evidence, like McCarthy did, I have a bridge to sell you. Edit: And that's exactly what the tweet says. Not that he hates commies. Keep the bridge and get over it. Also, work on some new and original lines, this thread has enough bridge salesmen. What McCarthy did was use authority and pretense as tools to actually imprison people and destroy their careers and lives. It's not McCarthyist simply to say something you disagree with. Trump doesn't spread innuendo and reach conclusions with 0 evidence because he says things I disagree with. He spreads innuendo and reaches conclusions with 0 evidence because he tweets things are terror attacks before any official confirmation, says these emails are worse than Watergate, says judges are unfit to preside over his cases when they are Mexican, and believes he knows better than U.S. military intelligence. Oh, and says over and over again that HRC coordinated his accusers with 0 evidence about that, too. And that there are tens of thousands of dead people voting.
Those are all McCarthyist to you, then?
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