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On October 16 2016 12:01 TheYango wrote:
I thought the conclusion after the debate was that it was too close to call either way. Why the hell are we trying to argue this again in retrospect?

On October 16 2016 12:04 zlefin wrote:

because bio asserted as fact (since changed to opinion) that trump completely smashed hillary in the debate.

On October 16 2016 12:08 biology]major wrote:


yeah it's really not a big deal, regardless trumps chances at winning the election now are probably less than 1% if even that. It would have to be some sort of miraculous blunder combined with uneven turnout that defies polling. Other than that though, enjoy the circle jerk that this thread will become.

On October 16 2016 12:01 TheYango wrote:
I thought the conclusion after the debate was that it was too close to call either way. Why the hell are we trying to argue this again in retrospect?

Today, the two major national teachers’ unions rank among the Clintons’ biggest supporters. The National Education Association has contributed at least $1.3 million to bolster their races, while the American Federation of Teachers has given more than $756,000 to support them politically and at least $1 million to their foundation.

In July, AFT endorsed Hillary Clinton’s 2016 presidential bid — the first national union to do so.

The Clintons’ Arkansas experience would prove to be a template for their national approach. Time and again, they sided with business interests, infuriating their liberal allies. But the estrangement was rarely permanent.

“They made a very conscious move toward the center, in part probably because of fundraising demands and in part because of ideology,” said Andrew Stern, former president of the Service Employees International Union. “They believe — as I do — that the Democratic Party has to be pro-growth.”

On October 16 2016 12:47 LegalLord wrote:

I was quite sure that that would indeed be the defining moment of that debate, but I thought people who didn't like Hillary would be more fond of that line. It looks like that was very much not the case.

On October 16 2016 13:04 LegalLord wrote:
From a news reporting perspective, the Yemen conflict has been remarkably invisible.

The United States has backed the Saudi-led effort, in part because it shares some of Saudi Arabia’s concerns about Iranian influence in the region, but also because it has a strong interest in keeping the Saudis happy so they’ll support the US-led fight against ISIS in Iraq and Syria.

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“There’s an American imprint on every civilian life lost in Yemen,” Democratic Sen. Chris Murphy told CNN’s Jake Tapper. “Though the Saudis are actually dropping the bombs from their planes, they wouldn’t be able to do it without us.”

Now, as we’ve seen, this has led to direct bombing. It’s not quite clearly why, exactly, missiles were fired at US warships. It could be retaliation for the US role in the Saudi campaign, a sign that the Houthis may be becoming more militarily and ideologically aligned with Iran, or something else entirely. The Houthis themselves deny responsibility for the missile attacks, making it even harder to figure out what’s going on.

The US retaliation, so far, has been relatively proportional. The US targeted radar installations, not civilian infrastructure; it appears to be a one-off retaliatory strike rather than the beginning of a broader offensive.

Donald Trump has lost little support since the first presidential debate, despite days of damaging news stories about his treatment of women, according to a new poll.

Hillary Clinton leads Trump 47 percent to 43 percent among likely voters in a four-way race, according to the latest ABC News/Washington Post national poll. Libertarian nominee Gary Johnson trails with 5 percent and the Green Party’s Jill Stein is at 2 percent.

In the previous ABC/Post poll, taken before the Sept. 26 debate, Clinton led Trump 46 percent to 44 percent.

The new poll continues to show some dire numbers for Trump, however, just 25 days before Election Day.

Nearly 70 percent say they believe that Trump has “made unwanted sexual advances toward women,” a stunning number that comes after the publication of lewd comments the now-Republican nominee made on a hot mic in 2005, and amid allegations by several women who say he touched them inappropriately. (Trump has said his comments were just "locker room talk" and denies the groping accusations.)

And a majority of registered voters -- 55 percent -- say that Trump's treatment of women is a legitimate issue, version 42 percent who say it wasn't.

Similarly, most voters aren't buying Trump's apology for the 2005 video -- 57 percent of registered voters say it was insincere, and only 40 percent agree it sounded like "typical locker room talk by men."

Just 30 percent of registered voters say Trump has a “strong moral character,” versus 45 percent for Clinton. Only 34 percent view Trump as honest and trustworthy, down from 42 percent in last month’s survey. And just 34 percent say Trump has the right temperament to be president, while 59 percent say Clinton does.

And, in a finding consistent with most other surveys, just 39 percent of registered voters say Trump is qualified for the Oval Office, version 59 percent who say Clinton is.

Trump’s unfavorable numbers are up among American adults: 66 percent view the New York mogul unfavorably, an increase of 7 points since September’s survey, and 54 percent see him “strongly” unfavorably. But among registered voters, Trump is seen only somewhat more unfavorably than Clinton, 63 percent to her 57 percent.

One-third of registered voters, moreover, say that Trump’s crude boasts about grabbing women’s genitals and kissing them unasked -- as revealed in a leaked video from a taping of “Access Hollywood” -- make them less likely to support him. But those voters, according to pollster Gary Langer, “fit the profile of those who were unlikely to do so in the first place.”

The new ABC/Post poll surveyed 1,152 adults by landline and cell phones from Oct. 10-13. The registered voter sample was 920 people, with a margin of error of plus or minus 3.5 percentage points, and the likely voter sample was 740, with a margin of error of plus or minus 4 points.

On October 16 2016 13:04 LegalLord wrote:
From a news reporting perspective, the Yemen conflict has been remarkably invisible.