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On September 01 2016 20:42 biology]major wrote:


we can only hope wikileaks comes through in the clutch. I wonder what their timing will be. Also HRC would be buried already if johnson wasn't stealing so many trump voters.

On September 01 2016 20:42 biology]major wrote:


we can only hope wikileaks comes through in the clutch. I wonder what their timing will be. Also HRC would be buried already if johnson wasn't stealing so many trump voters.

On September 01 2016 20:42 biology]major wrote:


we can only hope wikileaks comes through in the clutch. I wonder what their timing will be. Also HRC would be buried already if johnson wasn't stealing so many trump voters.

On September 01 2016 15:49 NukeD wrote:

Yes. If Trump wins you get a 1 year ban and if Hillary wins i get 1 year ban. Deal?

On September 01 2016 21:52 OtherWorld wrote:

Dude that's terrible odds

On September 01 2016 21:52 OtherWorld wrote:

Dude that's terrible odds

On September 01 2016 21:27 Broetchenholer wrote:


Johnson wouldn't steal so many trump votes if trump wasn't such a poor candidate.

Mexico president blasts Trump's policies as 'huge threat' after meeting

Mexico's president rebuked Donald Trump as a threat to his country just hours after painting a positive picture of talks the two held on Wednesday to try to defuse tensions over the U.S. presidential hopeful's anti-Mexican campaign rhetoric.

President Enrique Pena Nieto had on Wednesday afternoon hailed as "open and constructive" the impromptu meeting he held with Trump, who later referred to the Mexican leader as his friend and a "wonderful" president.

But in a late evening television interview, an angry-looking Pena Nieto sought to defend himself against a broad swathe of criticism for his decision to invite the Republican candidate despite his repeated verbal attacks on Mexico.

"His policy stances could represent a huge threat to Mexico, and I am not prepared to keep my arms crossed and do nothing," Pena Nieto said. "That risk, that threat, must be confronted. I told him that is not the way to build a mutually beneficial relationship for both nations."

Trump's quick acceptance of an invitation sent last Friday took Mexico's government by surprise, and his visit to Mexico City came just hours ahead of a keynote speech on immigration as he sought to close the gap on Democratic rival Hillary Clinton.

The real estate mogul's accusations that Mexico sends rapists and drug runners to the United States, and his threats to build a border wall and tear up trade deals, have angered the government but his meeting with Pena Nieto on Wednesday gave him a chance to present himself in a more moderate light.

Donald Trump went to Mexico Wednesday on a risky, last-minute trip in advance of his big policy speech on immigration. He had two goals: to provide a dramatic, newsy preview of his immigration policy speech on Wednesday night, and to look presidential.

It worked.

After meeting Mexican president Enrique Peña Nieto, a sober and subdued Trump stood at a podium opposite his counterpart, listened patiently as Peña Nieto described their meeting, and then briefly offered his own impressions. Trump listed his 5 policy priorities with respect to Mexico, took a couple of questions and ended the 33-minute press event.

Both men laid out their positions and acknowledged some areas of conflict. But there were no fireworks at the press conference, and Trump ended his remarks by calling Peña Nieto a "friend."

The visit comes after more than a year of tough, sometimes racist comments from Trump on Mexicans and Mexican-Americans. Trump rode his hardline positions on illegal immigration—build a wall, make Mexico pay for it, no legalization, forced mass deportation—to the Republican nomination. Some GOP primary voters agreed with his views, others admired his willingness to make his case forcefully and without regard to warnings from the consultant class and others about the dangers of doing so.

But the significance of his visit to Mexico has less to do with immigration policy itself and more to do with broader perceptions of Trump as a man and as a potential president. Hillary Clinton began the general election portraying Trump as just another Republican who was likely to do nasty Republican things if he were elected president. She changed her approach at the Democratic convention, arguing instead that Trump was irrational and dangerous, unfit to serve as commander in chief. That effort culminated in her speech last week attempting to make Trump own the "alt-right" and its craziness. Trump, she argued, was unlike mainstream Republicans like Paul Ryan and Ted Cruz. He was a threat to the republic, an ignorant loudmouth who couldn't unite the country at home and who would bungle the kinds of delicate diplomacy that she'd undertaken as secretary of state.

On Wednesday, Trump made those concerns look overblown. He stood across from the president of a country whose citizens he has often cast as villains and calmly walked through policy differences in reasonable and rational manner. His angry rants about Mexicans as rapists and criminals, about Mexican-Americans' views shaped by their heritage, were nowhere to be heard. Trump's sharp edges were rounded, his hot rhetoric cooler. If voters are concerned that Trump is incapable of behaving like a statesman—and many of them are—Trump showed them that at least on this day, he could. He was, ever briefly, the kind of Trump many Republican elected officials have long hoped publicly that he could become.

Can it last? There are reasons to be skeptical. He's had good moments in the past. The Trump on display in Mexico is not the real Trump.

As the race enters its final nine weeks, there is one question: Can Donald Trump behave like someone other than Donald Trump for long enough to convince the American people to elect him president against a hopelessly corrupt politician who is as widely disliked as he is?

On September 01 2016 23:30 xDaunt wrote:
Even The Weekly Standard has been forced to say nice things about Trump when commenting on his trip to Mexico:

But man, that parting shot at the end, haha.

On September 01 2016 23:58 On_Slaught wrote:


Out of curiosity, do you think last nights speech improved Trump's standing with the key demographic of Hispanics? With minorities in general?

On September 01 2016 23:30 xDaunt wrote:
Even The Weekly Standard has been forced to say nice things about Trump when commenting on his trip to Mexico:



Source.

But man, that parting shot at the end, haha.

On September 02 2016 00:14 Plansix wrote:
I know this will come as a shock, but demonizing and shitting Mexico for the entire primary and beyond might have pissed off the Mexican citizens a bit. And this little pit stop isn’t going to change that. Especially since Trump didn’t even make it through the press conference without lying through this teeth.

Sure, they can’t vote. But it’s not going to win over the hearts and minds of voters with Mexican heritage. It is ham fisted pandering. Tiny ham fists.

On September 02 2016 00:01 Doodsmack wrote:


He's all in on the whites.

On September 02 2016 00:35 Gorsameth wrote:

I thought we established a while ago that just 'angry white males' is not enough to win a presidential election with.

On September 02 2016 00:45 LegalLord wrote:
I don't like ban bets. At the end of the day one person loses and the other doesn't get anything. I generally stick to sigbets, which at least give you gloating powers for the specified period of time.

On September 02 2016 00:35 Gorsameth wrote:

I thought we established a while ago that just 'angry white males' is not enough to win a presidential election with.