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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 13 2016 00:47 PassiveAce wrote: Is it actually satire if it's exactly what he's doing though? Poe’s law is in full effect. I get the feeling we might be talking about this article a while from now when Trump says something very similar. | ||
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IgnE
United States7681 Posts
On August 13 2016 00:45 LegalLord wrote: He just kinda stopped posting. Most of us stopped responding to him for reasons that this post explains very well. when is the glorious return of oneofthem? | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On August 13 2016 00:38 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Better change: Clinton has managed to pretty much take several battleground states off the map. VA + CO are solid locks. Worth mentioning (but not in the poll) is that she's got pretty much a double digit lead in PA as well. Having a very solid road to 270 is enabling her to roll out a 50 state strategy, or at least greatly expand the electoral map in a way that benefits congressional races. On August 13 2016 00:53 Plansix wrote: Poe’s law is in full effect. I get the feeling we might be talking about this article a while from now when Trump says something very similar. Petition to rename Poe's law Trump's law when applied to politics? | ||
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
Pretty close to Election Day. | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On August 13 2016 01:00 ticklishmusic wrote: Petition to rename Poe's law Trump's law when applied to politics? I think it's much closer to the "Tyson Zone", where you can make up anything insane about what a certain person has done and it still remains completely believable. | ||
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RoomOfMush
1296 Posts
1) Did it ever happen that a "modern day" president won all 50 states? Lets say since the 1950s? 2) What effect has the presidential election on senate and congress? Are they completely independent from each other or somehow tied? 3) Is it legally possible for the republican party to support a different candidate than their own nominee? Could the republican party just decide to go with Johnson or something? (ignoring whether its of any use to them or smart or anything) | ||
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
On August 13 2016 01:06 RoomOfMush wrote: I have a few questions regarding US elections: 1) Did it ever happen that a "modern day" president won all 50 states? Lets say since the 1950s? 2) What effect has the presidential election on senate and congress? Are they completely independent from each other or somehow tied? 3) Is it legally possible for the republican party to support a different candidate than their own nominee? Could the republican party just decide to go with Johnson or something? (ignoring whether its of any use to them or smart or anything) 1. Never happened ever. Coalitions are never that vulnerable that they can lose that badly. Edit: never mind: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_elections_by_Electoral_College_margin 2. There's a "coattail" effect and the presidential choice indirectly influences the down-ballot votes which are often party-line. 3. Yes. They also could have dumped Trump if they really wanted. It's just really stupid to do so. | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
2) they are not tied legally but there is a strong correlation between a party winning a presidency, and gaining seats in congress. this is because people rarely split their vote between parties (i.e. if someone votes for a democratic president, theyr likely to vote for democratic congressmen). 3. Depends on what you mean by "the republican party.' individual members certainly can, but its extremely unlikely for the party and its associated resources (represented by Priebus and Ryan) to abandon ship. But yes, its possible. It sort of happened to Bob Dole in 1996. they didnt outright abandon him, but the GOP shifted resources away from him and towards vulnerable republican congressmen. | ||
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biology]major
United States2253 Posts
just saw this lmao + Show Spoiler + | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
One thing I don't understand if Clinton is forcing NC and Georgia why hasn't TN moved yet... no polling? | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
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RoomOfMush
1296 Posts
On August 13 2016 01:12 PassiveAce wrote: 3. Depends on what you mean by "the republican party.' individual members certainly can, but its extremely unlikely for the party and its associated resources (represented by Priebus and Ryan) to abandon ship. But yes, its possible. It sort of happened to Bob Dole in 1996. they didnt outright abandon him, but the shifted resources away from him and towards vulnerable republican congressmen. On August 13 2016 01:10 LegalLord wrote: 3. Yes. They also could have dumped Trump if they really wanted. It's just really stupid to do so. There was a story recently about some republicans thinking about replacing trump as their nominee but it was said they can not legally remove him, they have to wait for him to step down voluntarily. The rules of law surrounding parties and presidential elections in the US are quite confusing to an outsider. I was just curious to know whether a party actually has to stand (their official statements that is) behind their nominee or whether the party can actively encourage its voters to vote for somebody else. | ||
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
On August 13 2016 01:13 biology]major wrote: random shit post alert just saw this lmao + Show Spoiler + Anyone here remember jebbush.com ? | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
https://m.soundcloud.com/keepinit1600/ep-24-trumps-refusal-the-electoral-map-and-mike-murphy They don't pretend to be anything but partisans tho. It's pure liberal echo chamber but I really dig it anyway. | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On August 13 2016 01:16 RoomOfMush wrote: Thanks for the answers. There was a story recently about some republicans thinking about replacing trump as their nominee but it was said they can not legally remove him, they have to wait for him to step down voluntarily. The rules of law surrounding parties and presidential elections in the US are quite confusing to an outsider. I was just curious to know whether a party actually has to stand (their official statements that is) behind their nominee or whether the party can actively encourage its voters to vote for somebody else. They can encourage what they feel like doing. Kind of like Cruz with "vote your conscience" message ... he's still the Republican senator of Texas. Once Trump got the sufficient number of bound delegates and both bound/unbound cast a majority of votes for Trump at the party's convention, he became the nominee. In theory, the convention rules committee could've changed the rules to allow delegates to do what they felt like, but that would've been a bad play for the future. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On August 13 2016 01:15 PassiveAce wrote: arnt those states both a good deal more liberal then TN? (relatively speaking of course). NC went for obama in '08 and georgia at least has a huge minority vote urbanization. nashville + memphis aren't on the same scale as atlanta (metro area is over half the state pop) or the triangle + Charlotte in NC. | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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