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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44316 Posts
July 30 2016 01:58 GMT
#91701
Have we seen how cute Bill Clinton is with balloons yet?

https://www.buzzfeed.com/lyapalater/bill-the-balloon-guy?utm_term=.hkeKZKq5G#.vs4WbWZ0a

And have we seen how adorable Obama and Biden are together?

"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
July 30 2016 02:01 GMT
#91702
On July 30 2016 10:54 TMagpie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2016 10:49 travis wrote:
On July 30 2016 10:06 LegalLord wrote:
No one ever realizes that their security sucks ass until someone breaks it.


The ones that would don't have security that sucks ass.
Expertise is rarely the most important thing when it comes to the government hiring process, and old people often don't listen to young people.


Cyber security is not a fucking wall. It moves fast is dynamic as fuck and you can have the best security in the world for a decade and then get hacked by someone. Many "good" security gets hacked moments after they come online and the hackers just wait 2-3 years before finally selling their exploit to the highest bidder.

Everyone's security is shit. If people want to break in, they will. People pay money for security so that they'll be hit last not so that they can't be hit.

It's tough, certainly, but there's a reason some organizations get hacked more than others. Hackers aren't some omniscient invincible force that cannot fail. Perhaps it is telling that a lot of the hacks were some simple phishing attempts that some fools fell for.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
July 30 2016 02:03 GMT
#91703
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/30/us/federal-appeals-court-strikes-down-north-carolina-voter-id-provision.html

Voter ID is Sirius fraud.... Except when it's not
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
July 30 2016 02:04 GMT
#91704
On July 30 2016 11:01 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2016 10:54 TMagpie wrote:
On July 30 2016 10:49 travis wrote:
On July 30 2016 10:06 LegalLord wrote:
No one ever realizes that their security sucks ass until someone breaks it.


The ones that would don't have security that sucks ass.
Expertise is rarely the most important thing when it comes to the government hiring process, and old people often don't listen to young people.


Cyber security is not a fucking wall. It moves fast is dynamic as fuck and you can have the best security in the world for a decade and then get hacked by someone. Many "good" security gets hacked moments after they come online and the hackers just wait 2-3 years before finally selling their exploit to the highest bidder.

Everyone's security is shit. If people want to break in, they will. People pay money for security so that they'll be hit last not so that they can't be hit.

It's tough, certainly, but there's a reason some organizations get hacked more than others. Hackers aren't some omniscient invincible force that cannot fail. Perhaps it is telling that a lot of the hacks were some simple phishing attempts that some fools fell for.


Isn't that what most hacks are though? Human error and not the security itself. It amazes me how it seems that so many people in sensitive positions like that still fail at and fall for things.
Never Knows Best.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
July 30 2016 02:06 GMT
#91705
On July 30 2016 11:04 Slaughter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2016 11:01 LegalLord wrote:
On July 30 2016 10:54 TMagpie wrote:
On July 30 2016 10:49 travis wrote:
On July 30 2016 10:06 LegalLord wrote:
No one ever realizes that their security sucks ass until someone breaks it.


The ones that would don't have security that sucks ass.
Expertise is rarely the most important thing when it comes to the government hiring process, and old people often don't listen to young people.


Cyber security is not a fucking wall. It moves fast is dynamic as fuck and you can have the best security in the world for a decade and then get hacked by someone. Many "good" security gets hacked moments after they come online and the hackers just wait 2-3 years before finally selling their exploit to the highest bidder.

Everyone's security is shit. If people want to break in, they will. People pay money for security so that they'll be hit last not so that they can't be hit.

It's tough, certainly, but there's a reason some organizations get hacked more than others. Hackers aren't some omniscient invincible force that cannot fail. Perhaps it is telling that a lot of the hacks were some simple phishing attempts that some fools fell for.


Isn't that what most hacks are though? Human error and not the security itself. It amazes me how it seems that so many people in sensitive positions like that still fail at and fall for things.

Yes, the vast majority of hacks are social engineering. Good organizations inform their workers about the risk and do a lot of fake attacks to see how many people they can compromise. Effective, but not high tech by any means.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
July 30 2016 02:09 GMT
#91706
On July 30 2016 10:32 Slaughter wrote:
Damn just looked at r/The_Donald for the 1st time. Crazy stuff. Reddit produces so much shit.


Yeah Reddit really is a gutter. Isn't there a subreddit for taking upskirt photos in public or some shit?
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 30 2016 02:28 GMT
#91707
On July 30 2016 06:45 farvacola wrote:
Y'all don't know Bill Scheutte, I actually worked as an intern in his office lol. Dude is motivated by ideology above everything else (my office litigated anti-gay marriage positions harder than almost any other AG in the nation, save for maybe Texas). It's highly likely that the indictments won't go outside of the DEQ and that's definitely not a coincidence; Michigan Republicans are a tightly knit group for the most part.


My mom volunteered for the republican party in Michigan back during the Engler/Henry days. Got a picture with them signed. I wish that pic didn't get burnt up in the fire, It was a keeper

For the most part, I would agree.
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13925 Posts
July 30 2016 04:28 GMT
#91708
On July 30 2016 11:09 Doodsmack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2016 10:32 Slaughter wrote:
Damn just looked at r/The_Donald for the 1st time. Crazy stuff. Reddit produces so much shit.


Yeah Reddit really is a gutter. Isn't there a subreddit for taking upskirt photos in public or some shit?

they banned that subreddit years ago. Ofc reddit is a gutter its an aggregating website.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
July 30 2016 04:48 GMT
#91709
"General John Allen, who I never met but spoke against me last night, failed badly in his fight against ISIS. His record = BAD #NeverHillary"

"Little" Michael Bloomberg, who never had the guts to run for president, knows nothing about me. His last term as Mayor was a disaster!"


- Donald "The Dice Roll" Trump, 7/29/16
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
July 30 2016 04:50 GMT
#91710
little michael bloomberg is funny considering he's worth at least 4-5 times trump.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9858 Posts
July 30 2016 04:51 GMT
#91711
You're working hard to make that nickname stick Dood.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
July 30 2016 04:57 GMT
#91712
On July 30 2016 13:51 FiWiFaKi wrote:
You're working hard to make that nickname stick Dood.


You might even say,, hes "Rolling the dice" that maybe it sticks. If you can do it by voting Trump then he is well within his rights to do it to.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 30 2016 05:32 GMT
#91713
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
July 30 2016 05:59 GMT
#91714
Outgoing Democratic National Committee Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz spoke about her resignation during a reception at the party's convention today, saying she “took one for the team” by stepping down from her leadership post.

“This has been a difficult week. There’s no question about it," she said at the reception by the National Jewish Democratic Council. "And I am so proud of my team, some of whom are here, that put [the convention] together, from the convention team, to the national committee staff, to the volunteers, to our donors. Sometimes you just have to take one for the team. And that’s what happened. It's OK."

Video of her remarks was posted on the Jewish Telegraphic Agency's Facebook page.

Wasserman Schultz announced her resignation as chair on Sunday, after WikiLeaks posted nearly 20,000 leaked emails by top Democratic National Committee officials over the course of the primary season.

Several of the emails appear to show Wassserman Schultz growing increasingly frustrated with the Bernie Sanders campaign, with her at one point even referring to his campaign manager, Jeff Weaver, as a "damn liar" and an "a--."

As chair of the party's national committee, Wasserman Schultz was supposed to remain neutral through the primary season, and Sanders and his campaign repeatedly accused her of bias in favor of Hillary Clinton.

Wasserman Schultz was supposed to both open and close the convention. But since announcing that she would step down, she has maintained a very low profile at the event. She has not come onstage, and aside from occasional sightings of her relayed by Twitter users, she has remained out of the public eye. When the Clinton campaign was asked at a briefing today if Wasserman Schultz would be in the arena tonight, campaign staffers said they didn’t know.

The outgoing chair offered effusive praise of Clinton today, telling those at the reception how she supported Clinton even before the candidate announced her run in 2008. Wasserman Schultz said she propelled herself through “the five stages of grief” before supporting Barack Obama that year.

The rest of her remarks that were videotaped were largely spent attacking Donald Trump and emphasizing that the Jewish community needs to rally behind the Democratic Party and Clinton.

She also discussed her next steps. She said she is going home to the Florida congressional district she represents, “winning my primary” -- in which she is in a tight race with Tim Canova, a progressive candidate backed by Bernie Sanders -- to continue her role as a Florida congresswoman and that she will keep fighting for the Democratic Party agenda.

“I am going to be right back out there. I am taking off one hat but putting on another,” she said.

Source
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4128 Posts
July 30 2016 06:37 GMT
#91715
Besides the email thing, why is everyone calling Hillary a liar?
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9858 Posts
July 30 2016 06:39 GMT
#91716
On July 30 2016 15:37 Dante08 wrote:
Besides the email thing, why is everyone calling Hillary a liar?


In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
JW_DTLA
Profile Joined December 2015
242 Posts
July 30 2016 06:45 GMT
#91717
On July 30 2016 15:37 Dante08 wrote:
Besides the email thing, why is everyone calling Hillary a liar?


The media can repeat 1 lie 1000 times. But the media can't repeat 1000 lies even once.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
July 30 2016 06:47 GMT
#91718
On July 30 2016 15:37 Dante08 wrote:
Besides the email thing, why is everyone calling Hillary a liar?

She has a long history of flip-flopping on issues (consistent with changes in public opinion) and she's had her fair share of shifty dealings in her career. Emails being one of them.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9118 Posts
July 30 2016 07:06 GMT
#91719
On July 30 2016 15:37 Dante08 wrote:
Besides the email thing, why is everyone calling Hillary a liar?

Look at all this sniper fire

xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
July 30 2016 07:18 GMT
#91720
Don't worry, democrats. Hillary has more than earned her shitty reputation. Can't chalk that one up to the vast right wing conspiracy.
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