US Politics Mega-thread - Page 4495

On July 27 2016 08:07 GreenHorizons wrote:
There was a huge walkout at the convention, corporate media will tell you soon, maybe.

On July 27 2016 08:07 GreenHorizons wrote:
There was a huge walkout at the convention, corporate media will tell you soon, maybe.

On July 27 2016 08:02 Gorsameth wrote:

Considering Trumps, my way or the highway, attitude I can see him bypass congress through executive action if they try to stop him. And just ask the Republicans how hard it is to stop those.

On July 27 2016 08:15 zlefin wrote:
Figuring out the best way to deal with the DC issue as it has evolved is a bit tricky; no truly obviously good solutions.

On July 27 2016 08:16 Mohdoo wrote:

What argument is there against DC being a state?

On July 27 2016 08:12 Cowboy24 wrote:

Good point, but I think the Republicans in the Congress and Senate might just find their backbones in the event of a Trump presidency.

Rep. Alan Grayson's ex-wife repeatedly went to police with accusations of domestic abuse over a two-decade period, according to documents she has provided to POLITICO, revelations that come as the Florida congressman enters the final weeks of his Democratic primary campaign for Senate.

Lolita Grayson called police on her husband at least two times in Virginia and two more times in Florida, sought medical attention on at least two occasions and said that, in one instance, he had threatened to kill her, according to a police report.

The congressman, who asserted Lolita Grayson battered him in 2014, vehemently denies he engaged in any abuse during their 25-year marriage, which ended last year in a bitter annulment that she is now appealing.

The first reported incident described by the documents was in 1994; the final one was in 2014. Lolita Grayson also called Orange County sheriff’s deputies in 2005 to lodge another abuse complaint, but prosecutors filed no charges in that incident or any of the others. Only the 2014 incident has been previously reported.

“I want the people to know my story so they know what kind of man Alan Grayson really is,” Lolita Grayson, 56, said in an email to POLITICO, her first public comments on the issue. She provided police and medical records related to 1994 and 1999 incidents in Fairfax County in Virginia, and sheriff’s reports concerning 2005 and 2014 incidents in Orange County, Florida.
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Six years later, after the couple had moved to the Orlando, Florida, area, Lolita Grayson made her first call to Orange County sheriff’s deputies. In November 2005, she claimed Alan Grayson made a death threat during an argument over a babysitter. Alan Grayson allegedly pushed her against the wall during the dispute, and she told him "not to hit her and called him an 'asshole,'” according to the police report.

She started to walk away and Grayson then allegedly struck her on the back of the head and told her, "I'm gonna kill you bitch." Lolita Grayson had suffered a stroke the previous month, she said, and worried she might have another. She took their children to a friend's house and didn't return until that night, according to the sheriff's report. The couple argued again, but there was no allegation of more physical abuse. A sheriff's deputy stated in the report seeing a "small bruise that was in plain view on the left side of her chest, which she claims was caused when her husband pushed her, along with another small bruise on the back of her left hand."

On July 27 2016 08:15 ticklishmusic wrote:
Trump has explicitly said that he wants nothing to do with the job of president, just the perks and power. The lifting in a theoretical Trump administration will be done by Pence.

On July 27 2016 08:27 GreenHorizons wrote:
notice how empty the place is. PUMA

DNC Lawyers Now Implicated in Email Leaks as Giving ‘Pro-Hillary’ Advice

A high profile law firm is now caught up in the DNC WikiLeaks mess. A group of Bernie Sanders supporters filed a class action lawsuit against the Democratic National Committee, and the now-former chairwoman, Debbie Wasserman-Shultz. In a letter sent Monday, they are demanding that attorneys from Perkins Coie LLP be removed from the case due to a conflict of interest. New emails discovered through the WikiLeaks dump show that attorneys from the law firm have given strategy advice to hurt Sanders, well before he dropped out. To add fuel to their claim, they’ve now discovered that attorneys from Perkins Coie are representing both the Democratic National Committee and Clinton’s campaign.

The lawsuit, which was actually filed before the leaks, claims that the DNC “actively concealed its bias” from its donors and supporters backing Bernie Sanders. The plaintiffs say the recent emails only give them more evidence that the Democratic National Committee was on board with Hillary Clinton from the start.

Internal emails discovered through WikiLeaks show that Perkins Coie attorneys advised the DNC on how to fight allegations from Bernie Sanders. This spring, the Sanders campaign accused Hillary Clinton of ‘laundering’ money through the Clinton Victory Fund. Marc Elias, who serves as the Clinton campaign’s general counsel and also a partner at Perkins Coie, fired off an email to DNC staff stating:

My suggestion is that the DNC put out a statement saying that the accusations the Sanders campaign are not true. The fact that CNN notes that you aren’t getting between the two campaigns is the problem. Here, Sanders is attacking the DNC and its current practice, its past practice with the POTUS and with Sec Kerry. Just as the RNC pushes back directly on Trump over “rigged system”, the DNC should push back DIRECTLY at Sanders and say that what he is saying is false and harmful the Democratic party. [emphasis added]


Interestingly, Clinton’s lawyer, Elias (quoted above), is also listed as representing the Democratic National Committee in the recent lawsuit filed by Bernie Sanders supporters.

“What we have here is evidence from the Wikileaks database that the same attorneys that are appearing in our case and representing the DNC in the Southern District of Florida were previously attorneys for the Clinton campaign or they were providing advice to the DNC that was adverse to Bernie Sanders,” attorney Jared Beck said in a video posted on line.

While it might “smell” funny, the fact that Elias gave “advice” to the DNC is not illegal, according to the Campaign Legal Center.

“This email exchange pertains to a perfectly legal joint fundraising committee that includes the Clinton campaign, the DNC and a bunch of state Democratic Party committees. The coordination laws/rules don’t restrict this type of interaction,” Paul Ryan, the Campaign Legal Center’s deputy executive director told LawNewz.com.

However, attorneys for Bernie Sanders supporters contend that the federal court rules bar Perkins Coie lawyers from representing the DNC as defense counsel in the case. They say that the Perkins Coie attorneys may become “potential material witnesses” or “defendants” in the case and should be disqualified. They plan to file an official motion in court.

Beck’s firm is representing about 150 supporters of Bernie Sanders in the proposed class action lawsuit.

“My email account shows that I’ve been getting 10 emails per minute from people around the country that want to join the lawsuit,” Beck said. The DNC is attempting to get the lawsuit dismissed on procedural grounds, they contend that it was never properly served. Several emails sent to Clinton’s lawyer Marc Elias have not been returned. (He is also listed as the attorney for the DNC on the class action lawsuit).

On July 27 2016 08:27 GreenHorizons wrote:
notice how empty the place is. PUMA

https://twitter.com/DannyEFreeman/status/758076686789382145

looks like more than a few. plus these are delegates representing 10's of thousands of people each

On July 27 2016 08:29 Plansix wrote:

That is likely because everyone is in the main hall. The media area has been shut down per reports.

Edit: Yeah, but did they represent what those 10s of thousands of voters wanted or just what they wanted. They had a mandate to vote for Bernie, not throw a fit. But whatever, their protest is done.

On July 27 2016 08:27 oBlade wrote:

Are you talking about the supposed offer from Trump, Jr. to Kasich that the NYT made up?

On July 27 2016 08:09 GGTeMpLaR wrote:


I'm saying if a word is culturally decided to be a racial slur that ought not be used, then no one should use it.

It's irrational to advocate the position 'oh this is a racial slur but it's only bad if white people say it. it's okay for black people to say it'

On July 27 2016 08:32 Nevuk wrote:

via site with the dumbest possible name, http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/dnc-lawyers-now-implicated-in-email-leaks-as-giving-pro-hillary-advice/

Not sure that this sort of legal maneuvering from the Bernie or bust people really matters, but it might have more impact than random booing.