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Sanders' endorsement is about as flattering as The Onion's depiction of it.
PORTSMOUTH, NH—Putting aside the policy disagreements and occasional acrimony that marked the pair’s heated, months-long presidential primary election contest, Vermont senator Bernie Sanders offered a ringing endorsement of Hillary Clinton today by stating that she is a different person than Donald Trump. “Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump are separate people,” said Sanders, throwing his support behind Clinton in a rousing 25-second speech in which he praised the former secretary of state as someone who has a different name than the Republican nominee and who is altogether a distinct being from him. “Donald Trump is one person and Hillary Clinton is another person. They are not the same person.” Sanders then reportedly concluded the resounding endorsement by stating that “Hillary Clinton is a choice for president,” before exhaling audibly and walking quietly off the stage.
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On July 26 2016 04:40 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2016 04:36 Plansix wrote:On July 26 2016 04:27 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 26 2016 04:24 Nyxisto wrote:
Sanders literally stated a year ago that he's not going to blow the Democratic party apart and will endorse the democratic candidate should he lose, what 'true colors' lol that's political talk m8 It shows he is tone deaf to his supporters and despite our ever changing world, he is not reacting to what is happening. He's simply following the same script. He should have denounced Trump and Clinton and left it at that, it's a bad move. Not really, no. It shows that there are a section of his supporters that are unwilling to compromise or influence government in any way beyond winning the nomination. This is a myopic and short sighted way to view politics, as no one wins all the time and no one can govern alone. He would need the DNC to get elected and a large part of it wouldn’t play ball. And I doubt there is anything he can say to convince them that he needs their support. Because they refuse to accept a world where he works with Clinton. Alright lets say for a second that you work in a company. You and another guy are working to become partner, which is a huge raise. You are way better educated and better skill-wise in your field. The other guy is simply more well connected at the office. He goes on to become partner, you aren't sure where you went wrong. A month passes by and later you discover that the executives were colluding to get the other guy in because his dad golfs with the CEO, and keep you out at all costs. Do you stay with that company or do you quit and find another job?
What is at stake in this election isn't Bernie Sanders personal advancement or his pride. He wasn't campaigning with the intent of furthering himself but instead for his progressive ideals. Throwing a tantrum because he didn't win would be a betrayal to the ideals that he has been campaigning for.
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On July 26 2016 04:42 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2016 04:40 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 26 2016 04:36 Plansix wrote:On July 26 2016 04:27 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 26 2016 04:24 Nyxisto wrote:
Sanders literally stated a year ago that he's not going to blow the Democratic party apart and will endorse the democratic candidate should he lose, what 'true colors' lol that's political talk m8 It shows he is tone deaf to his supporters and despite our ever changing world, he is not reacting to what is happening. He's simply following the same script. He should have denounced Trump and Clinton and left it at that, it's a bad move. Not really, no. It shows that there are a section of his supporters that are unwilling to compromise or influence government in any way beyond winning the nomination. This is a myopic and short sighted way to view politics, as no one wins all the time and no one can govern alone. He would need the DNC to get elected and a large part of it wouldn’t play ball. And I doubt there is anything he can say to convince them that he needs their support. Because they refuse to accept a world where he works with Clinton. Alright lets say for a second that you work in a company. You and another guy are working to become partner, which is a huge raise. You are way better educated and better skill-wise in your field. The other guy is simply more well connected at the office. He goes on to become partner, you aren't sure where you went wrong. A month passes by and later you discover that the executives were colluding to get the other guy in because his dad golfs with the CEO, and keep you out at all costs. Do you stay with that company or do you quit and find another job? That isn’t how politics works. You don’t “win” promotions. There isn’t a public voting process. He literally lost by 3.7 million votes. If the DNC could change that many minds and votes at their whim, they couldn’t have lost the House and Senate in 2010.
I figured you'd dodge the question and open with your own rhetoric, I dont know why I bothered. You are usually one of the people's posts I skip over when I shadow this thread  You're too boxed in for my tastes.
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On July 26 2016 04:45 LegalLord wrote:Sanders' endorsement is about as flattering as The Onion's depiction of it. Show nested quote +PORTSMOUTH, NH—Putting aside the policy disagreements and occasional acrimony that marked the pair’s heated, months-long presidential primary election contest, Vermont senator Bernie Sanders offered a ringing endorsement of Hillary Clinton today by stating that she is a different person than Donald Trump. “Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump are separate people,” said Sanders, throwing his support behind Clinton in a rousing 25-second speech in which he praised the former secretary of state as someone who has a different name than the Republican nominee and who is altogether a distinct being from him. “Donald Trump is one person and Hillary Clinton is another person. They are not the same person.” Sanders then reportedly concluded the resounding endorsement by stating that “Hillary Clinton is a choice for president,” before exhaling audibly and walking quietly off the stage. Source
clearly someone didnt watch the actual endorsement
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On July 26 2016 04:33 GGTeMpLaR wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2016 04:31 zlefin wrote:On July 26 2016 04:27 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 26 2016 04:24 Nyxisto wrote:
Sanders literally stated a year ago that he's not going to blow the Democratic party apart and will endorse the democratic candidate should he lose, what 'true colors' lol that's political talk m8 It shows he is tone deaf to his supporters and despite our ever changing world, he is not reacting to what is happening. He's simply following the same script. He should have denounced Trump and Clinton and left it at that, it's a bad move. isn't it more backbone to say what he believes is right, rather than to say whatever some of his supporters favor to get elected? You mean like how a few months ago he was saying he believed "Clinton cannot be president"? The Green Party offered to make him their candidate and he refused. And there is always Gary Johnson. I don't think it has anything to do with what he believes is right. He's just playing politics like everyone else.
iirc he wasn't saying that. can you provide the actual quote? my recollection, admittedly vague, is that his actual statement was much milder.
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On July 26 2016 04:33 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2016 04:31 zlefin wrote:On July 26 2016 04:27 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 26 2016 04:24 Nyxisto wrote:
Sanders literally stated a year ago that he's not going to blow the Democratic party apart and will endorse the democratic candidate should he lose, what 'true colors' lol that's political talk m8 It shows he is tone deaf to his supporters and despite our ever changing world, he is not reacting to what is happening. He's simply following the same script. He should have denounced Trump and Clinton and left it at that, it's a bad move. isn't it more backbone to say what he believes is right, rather than to say whatever some of his supporters favor to get elected? No, after he got fucked by the party he should not be supporting them in the slightest but he's definitely taking behind the scene deals. That's where the tone deaf disconnect comes in
he didn't get screwed over by the entire party; only be some parts of it. and it's not like he HIMSELF is a long-time democrat. I think you just aren't grasping the full situation well.
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On July 26 2016 04:47 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2016 04:42 Plansix wrote:On July 26 2016 04:40 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 26 2016 04:36 Plansix wrote:On July 26 2016 04:27 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 26 2016 04:24 Nyxisto wrote:
Sanders literally stated a year ago that he's not going to blow the Democratic party apart and will endorse the democratic candidate should he lose, what 'true colors' lol that's political talk m8 It shows he is tone deaf to his supporters and despite our ever changing world, he is not reacting to what is happening. He's simply following the same script. He should have denounced Trump and Clinton and left it at that, it's a bad move. Not really, no. It shows that there are a section of his supporters that are unwilling to compromise or influence government in any way beyond winning the nomination. This is a myopic and short sighted way to view politics, as no one wins all the time and no one can govern alone. He would need the DNC to get elected and a large part of it wouldn’t play ball. And I doubt there is anything he can say to convince them that he needs their support. Because they refuse to accept a world where he works with Clinton. Alright lets say for a second that you work in a company. You and another guy are working to become partner, which is a huge raise. You are way better educated and better skill-wise in your field. The other guy is simply more well connected at the office. He goes on to become partner, you aren't sure where you went wrong. A month passes by and later you discover that the executives were colluding to get the other guy in because his dad golfs with the CEO, and keep you out at all costs. Do you stay with that company or do you quit and find another job? That isn’t how politics works. You don’t “win” promotions. There isn’t a public voting process. He literally lost by 3.7 million votes. If the DNC could change that many minds and votes at their whim, they couldn’t have lost the House and Senate in 2010. I figured you'd dodge the question and open with your own rhetoric, I dont know why I bothered. You are usually one of the people's posts I skip over when I shadow this thread You're too boxed in for my tastes.
I didn’t dodge the question, your analogy sucked. Sanders is going to support Clinton because he got into politics to improve the lives of other people, not himself. He is fine. Refusing to be part of the process because he didn’t win won’t further his goals. His supporters don’t see that because a lot of them are used to the idea of compromise.
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On July 26 2016 04:47 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2016 04:42 Plansix wrote:On July 26 2016 04:40 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 26 2016 04:36 Plansix wrote:On July 26 2016 04:27 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 26 2016 04:24 Nyxisto wrote:
Sanders literally stated a year ago that he's not going to blow the Democratic party apart and will endorse the democratic candidate should he lose, what 'true colors' lol that's political talk m8 It shows he is tone deaf to his supporters and despite our ever changing world, he is not reacting to what is happening. He's simply following the same script. He should have denounced Trump and Clinton and left it at that, it's a bad move. Not really, no. It shows that there are a section of his supporters that are unwilling to compromise or influence government in any way beyond winning the nomination. This is a myopic and short sighted way to view politics, as no one wins all the time and no one can govern alone. He would need the DNC to get elected and a large part of it wouldn’t play ball. And I doubt there is anything he can say to convince them that he needs their support. Because they refuse to accept a world where he works with Clinton. Alright lets say for a second that you work in a company. You and another guy are working to become partner, which is a huge raise. You are way better educated and better skill-wise in your field. The other guy is simply more well connected at the office. He goes on to become partner, you aren't sure where you went wrong. A month passes by and later you discover that the executives were colluding to get the other guy in because his dad golfs with the CEO, and keep you out at all costs. Do you stay with that company or do you quit and find another job? That isn’t how politics works. You don’t “win” promotions. There isn’t a public voting process. He literally lost by 3.7 million votes. If the DNC could change that many minds and votes at their whim, they couldn’t have lost the House and Senate in 2010. I figured you'd dodge the question and open with your own rhetoric, I dont know why I bothered. You are usually one of the people's posts I skip over when I shadow this thread You're too boxed in for my tastes.
You can't dance around Sanders losing the overall primary vote by millions no matter how hard you try though.
I don't see the big deal really, in ten years at the most the Democratic Party will be openly "socialist," whatever that means. Just wait and all the BernieBros will get what they want... when they're in their mid-30s and don't want it anymore lol.
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On July 26 2016 04:50 zlefin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2016 04:33 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 26 2016 04:31 zlefin wrote:On July 26 2016 04:27 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 26 2016 04:24 Nyxisto wrote:
Sanders literally stated a year ago that he's not going to blow the Democratic party apart and will endorse the democratic candidate should he lose, what 'true colors' lol that's political talk m8 It shows he is tone deaf to his supporters and despite our ever changing world, he is not reacting to what is happening. He's simply following the same script. He should have denounced Trump and Clinton and left it at that, it's a bad move. isn't it more backbone to say what he believes is right, rather than to say whatever some of his supporters favor to get elected? No, after he got fucked by the party he should not be supporting them in the slightest but he's definitely taking behind the scene deals. That's where the tone deaf disconnect comes in he didn't get screwed over by the entire party; only be some parts of it. and it's not like he HIMSELF is a long-time democrat. I think you just aren't grasping the full situation well.
No this is just why I can't take this election seriously, everyone is either far left or far right, very few moderates like myself left. Talking to anyone is like talking to a brick wall. haven't seen a good post since Kwark's.
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On July 26 2016 04:51 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2016 04:47 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 26 2016 04:42 Plansix wrote:On July 26 2016 04:40 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 26 2016 04:36 Plansix wrote:On July 26 2016 04:27 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 26 2016 04:24 Nyxisto wrote:
Sanders literally stated a year ago that he's not going to blow the Democratic party apart and will endorse the democratic candidate should he lose, what 'true colors' lol that's political talk m8 It shows he is tone deaf to his supporters and despite our ever changing world, he is not reacting to what is happening. He's simply following the same script. He should have denounced Trump and Clinton and left it at that, it's a bad move. Not really, no. It shows that there are a section of his supporters that are unwilling to compromise or influence government in any way beyond winning the nomination. This is a myopic and short sighted way to view politics, as no one wins all the time and no one can govern alone. He would need the DNC to get elected and a large part of it wouldn’t play ball. And I doubt there is anything he can say to convince them that he needs their support. Because they refuse to accept a world where he works with Clinton. Alright lets say for a second that you work in a company. You and another guy are working to become partner, which is a huge raise. You are way better educated and better skill-wise in your field. The other guy is simply more well connected at the office. He goes on to become partner, you aren't sure where you went wrong. A month passes by and later you discover that the executives were colluding to get the other guy in because his dad golfs with the CEO, and keep you out at all costs. Do you stay with that company or do you quit and find another job? That isn’t how politics works. You don’t “win” promotions. There isn’t a public voting process. He literally lost by 3.7 million votes. If the DNC could change that many minds and votes at their whim, they couldn’t have lost the House and Senate in 2010. I figured you'd dodge the question and open with your own rhetoric, I dont know why I bothered. You are usually one of the people's posts I skip over when I shadow this thread You're too boxed in for my tastes. I didn’t dodge the question, your analogy sucked. Sanders is going to support Clinton because he got into politics to improve the lives of other people, not himself. He is fine. Refusing to be part of the process because he didn’t win won’t further his goals. His supporters don’t see that because a lot of them are used to the idea of compromise.
Anything that you can't answer sucks lel. Like I said, you're too extremist for me.
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On July 26 2016 04:51 DeepElemBlues wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2016 04:47 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 26 2016 04:42 Plansix wrote:On July 26 2016 04:40 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 26 2016 04:36 Plansix wrote:On July 26 2016 04:27 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 26 2016 04:24 Nyxisto wrote:
Sanders literally stated a year ago that he's not going to blow the Democratic party apart and will endorse the democratic candidate should he lose, what 'true colors' lol that's political talk m8 It shows he is tone deaf to his supporters and despite our ever changing world, he is not reacting to what is happening. He's simply following the same script. He should have denounced Trump and Clinton and left it at that, it's a bad move. Not really, no. It shows that there are a section of his supporters that are unwilling to compromise or influence government in any way beyond winning the nomination. This is a myopic and short sighted way to view politics, as no one wins all the time and no one can govern alone. He would need the DNC to get elected and a large part of it wouldn’t play ball. And I doubt there is anything he can say to convince them that he needs their support. Because they refuse to accept a world where he works with Clinton. Alright lets say for a second that you work in a company. You and another guy are working to become partner, which is a huge raise. You are way better educated and better skill-wise in your field. The other guy is simply more well connected at the office. He goes on to become partner, you aren't sure where you went wrong. A month passes by and later you discover that the executives were colluding to get the other guy in because his dad golfs with the CEO, and keep you out at all costs. Do you stay with that company or do you quit and find another job? That isn’t how politics works. You don’t “win” promotions. There isn’t a public voting process. He literally lost by 3.7 million votes. If the DNC could change that many minds and votes at their whim, they couldn’t have lost the House and Senate in 2010. I figured you'd dodge the question and open with your own rhetoric, I dont know why I bothered. You are usually one of the people's posts I skip over when I shadow this thread You're too boxed in for my tastes. You can't dance around Sanders losing the overall primary vote by millions no matter how hard you try though.
Implying I care even remotely about that
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On July 26 2016 04:51 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2016 04:50 zlefin wrote:On July 26 2016 04:33 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 26 2016 04:31 zlefin wrote:On July 26 2016 04:27 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 26 2016 04:24 Nyxisto wrote:
Sanders literally stated a year ago that he's not going to blow the Democratic party apart and will endorse the democratic candidate should he lose, what 'true colors' lol that's political talk m8 It shows he is tone deaf to his supporters and despite our ever changing world, he is not reacting to what is happening. He's simply following the same script. He should have denounced Trump and Clinton and left it at that, it's a bad move. isn't it more backbone to say what he believes is right, rather than to say whatever some of his supporters favor to get elected? No, after he got fucked by the party he should not be supporting them in the slightest but he's definitely taking behind the scene deals. That's where the tone deaf disconnect comes in he didn't get screwed over by the entire party; only be some parts of it. and it's not like he HIMSELF is a long-time democrat. I think you just aren't grasping the full situation well. No this is just why I can't take this election seriously, everyone is either far left or far right, very few moderates like myself left. Talking to anyone is like talking to a brick wall. haven't seen a good post since Kwark's.
uhhh; I'm a moderate, and there's plent yof other moderates around. I'm not so sure you're a moderate, you don't really talk like one. But people can self-identify as whatever they like I guess. In fact the bulk of voters are independents adn moderates; if talking to everyone is like talking to a brick wall, have you considered that maybe the problem is something in your perception? that's more common really.
Your sense of moderate vs extreme doesn't seem to matchup with how people typically use the term.
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You aren't really trying to engage in discussion if you just say everyone who doesn't say what you want to hear is an extremist.
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On July 26 2016 04:53 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2016 04:51 DeepElemBlues wrote:On July 26 2016 04:47 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 26 2016 04:42 Plansix wrote:On July 26 2016 04:40 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 26 2016 04:36 Plansix wrote:On July 26 2016 04:27 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 26 2016 04:24 Nyxisto wrote:
Sanders literally stated a year ago that he's not going to blow the Democratic party apart and will endorse the democratic candidate should he lose, what 'true colors' lol that's political talk m8 It shows he is tone deaf to his supporters and despite our ever changing world, he is not reacting to what is happening. He's simply following the same script. He should have denounced Trump and Clinton and left it at that, it's a bad move. Not really, no. It shows that there are a section of his supporters that are unwilling to compromise or influence government in any way beyond winning the nomination. This is a myopic and short sighted way to view politics, as no one wins all the time and no one can govern alone. He would need the DNC to get elected and a large part of it wouldn’t play ball. And I doubt there is anything he can say to convince them that he needs their support. Because they refuse to accept a world where he works with Clinton. Alright lets say for a second that you work in a company. You and another guy are working to become partner, which is a huge raise. You are way better educated and better skill-wise in your field. The other guy is simply more well connected at the office. He goes on to become partner, you aren't sure where you went wrong. A month passes by and later you discover that the executives were colluding to get the other guy in because his dad golfs with the CEO, and keep you out at all costs. Do you stay with that company or do you quit and find another job? That isn’t how politics works. You don’t “win” promotions. There isn’t a public voting process. He literally lost by 3.7 million votes. If the DNC could change that many minds and votes at their whim, they couldn’t have lost the House and Senate in 2010. I figured you'd dodge the question and open with your own rhetoric, I dont know why I bothered. You are usually one of the people's posts I skip over when I shadow this thread You're too boxed in for my tastes. You can't dance around Sanders losing the overall primary vote by millions no matter how hard you try though. Implying I care even remotely about that
Imagine if you sucked at your job, then the person who did better on every metric got a promotion, now imagine that the person who won on every metric also happened to be friends with more people than you--would you be upset by that?
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On July 26 2016 04:53 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2016 04:51 DeepElemBlues wrote:On July 26 2016 04:47 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 26 2016 04:42 Plansix wrote:On July 26 2016 04:40 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 26 2016 04:36 Plansix wrote:On July 26 2016 04:27 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 26 2016 04:24 Nyxisto wrote:
Sanders literally stated a year ago that he's not going to blow the Democratic party apart and will endorse the democratic candidate should he lose, what 'true colors' lol that's political talk m8 It shows he is tone deaf to his supporters and despite our ever changing world, he is not reacting to what is happening. He's simply following the same script. He should have denounced Trump and Clinton and left it at that, it's a bad move. Not really, no. It shows that there are a section of his supporters that are unwilling to compromise or influence government in any way beyond winning the nomination. This is a myopic and short sighted way to view politics, as no one wins all the time and no one can govern alone. He would need the DNC to get elected and a large part of it wouldn’t play ball. And I doubt there is anything he can say to convince them that he needs their support. Because they refuse to accept a world where he works with Clinton. Alright lets say for a second that you work in a company. You and another guy are working to become partner, which is a huge raise. You are way better educated and better skill-wise in your field. The other guy is simply more well connected at the office. He goes on to become partner, you aren't sure where you went wrong. A month passes by and later you discover that the executives were colluding to get the other guy in because his dad golfs with the CEO, and keep you out at all costs. Do you stay with that company or do you quit and find another job? That isn’t how politics works. You don’t “win” promotions. There isn’t a public voting process. He literally lost by 3.7 million votes. If the DNC could change that many minds and votes at their whim, they couldn’t have lost the House and Senate in 2010. I figured you'd dodge the question and open with your own rhetoric, I dont know why I bothered. You are usually one of the people's posts I skip over when I shadow this thread You're too boxed in for my tastes. You can't dance around Sanders losing the overall primary vote by millions no matter how hard you try though. Implying I care even remotely about that
If you're going to whine about how the decision was allegedly rigged against him then you kind of should care that he lost the total primary vote by millions. It severely undercuts the argument that the outcome wasn't valid.
I won't imply it I'll say it straight out, if you want to complain about the rigged DNC and rigged Dem primaries and not have anyone disagree or declare that you don't want to talk to anyone who disagrees because they're obviously just extreme and not open-minded and blah blah blah, do it on Facebook. That's what Facebook is for, everybody can have their own personal echo chamber.
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On July 26 2016 04:52 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2016 04:51 Plansix wrote:On July 26 2016 04:47 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 26 2016 04:42 Plansix wrote:On July 26 2016 04:40 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 26 2016 04:36 Plansix wrote:On July 26 2016 04:27 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 26 2016 04:24 Nyxisto wrote:
Sanders literally stated a year ago that he's not going to blow the Democratic party apart and will endorse the democratic candidate should he lose, what 'true colors' lol that's political talk m8 It shows he is tone deaf to his supporters and despite our ever changing world, he is not reacting to what is happening. He's simply following the same script. He should have denounced Drumpf and Clinton and left it at that, it's a bad move. Not really, no. It shows that there are a section of his supporters that are unwilling to compromise or influence government in any way beyond winning the nomination. This is a myopic and short sighted way to view politics, as no one wins all the time and no one can govern alone. He would need the DNC to get elected and a large part of it wouldn’t play ball. And I doubt there is anything he can say to convince them that he needs their support. Because they refuse to accept a world where he works with Clinton. Alright lets say for a second that you work in a company. You and another guy are working to become partner, which is a huge raise. You are way better educated and better skill-wise in your field. The other guy is simply more well connected at the office. He goes on to become partner, you aren't sure where you went wrong. A month passes by and later you discover that the executives were colluding to get the other guy in because his dad golfs with the CEO, and keep you out at all costs. Do you stay with that company or do you quit and find another job? That isn’t how politics works. You don’t “win” promotions. There isn’t a public voting process. He literally lost by 3.7 million votes. If the DNC could change that many minds and votes at their whim, they couldn’t have lost the House and Senate in 2010. I figured you'd dodge the question and open with your own rhetoric, I dont know why I bothered. You are usually one of the people's posts I skip over when I shadow this thread You're too boxed in for my tastes. I didn’t dodge the question, your analogy sucked. Sanders is going to support Clinton because he got into politics to improve the lives of other people, not himself. He is fine. Refusing to be part of the process because he didn’t win won’t further his goals. His supporters don’t see that because a lot of them are used to the idea of compromise. Anything that you can't answer sucks lel. Like I said, you're too extremist for me.
Ok, lets play this stupid game just to so you dont get to pretend he dodged a stupid question.
. To answer your question I would keep working and look for alternatives. I would not throw a shit fit and leave. But I would look to look at my options and try to negotiate a position that helps best further my goals. Because throwing a shitfit and quitting would not help me.
Now that your question is answered. In your moderate opinion,
Can you please explain what personal advancement at the workplace has to do with running a campaign that is dependent on the public voting for you?
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On July 26 2016 04:52 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2016 04:51 Plansix wrote:On July 26 2016 04:47 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 26 2016 04:42 Plansix wrote:On July 26 2016 04:40 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 26 2016 04:36 Plansix wrote:On July 26 2016 04:27 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 26 2016 04:24 Nyxisto wrote:
Sanders literally stated a year ago that he's not going to blow the Democratic party apart and will endorse the democratic candidate should he lose, what 'true colors' lol that's political talk m8 It shows he is tone deaf to his supporters and despite our ever changing world, he is not reacting to what is happening. He's simply following the same script. He should have denounced Trump and Clinton and left it at that, it's a bad move. Not really, no. It shows that there are a section of his supporters that are unwilling to compromise or influence government in any way beyond winning the nomination. This is a myopic and short sighted way to view politics, as no one wins all the time and no one can govern alone. He would need the DNC to get elected and a large part of it wouldn’t play ball. And I doubt there is anything he can say to convince them that he needs their support. Because they refuse to accept a world where he works with Clinton. Alright lets say for a second that you work in a company. You and another guy are working to become partner, which is a huge raise. You are way better educated and better skill-wise in your field. The other guy is simply more well connected at the office. He goes on to become partner, you aren't sure where you went wrong. A month passes by and later you discover that the executives were colluding to get the other guy in because his dad golfs with the CEO, and keep you out at all costs. Do you stay with that company or do you quit and find another job? That isn’t how politics works. You don’t “win” promotions. There isn’t a public voting process. He literally lost by 3.7 million votes. If the DNC could change that many minds and votes at their whim, they couldn’t have lost the House and Senate in 2010. I figured you'd dodge the question and open with your own rhetoric, I dont know why I bothered. You are usually one of the people's posts I skip over when I shadow this thread You're too boxed in for my tastes. I didn’t dodge the question, your analogy sucked. Sanders is going to support Clinton because he got into politics to improve the lives of other people, not himself. He is fine. Refusing to be part of the process because he didn’t win won’t further his goals. His supporters don’t see that because a lot of them are used to the idea of compromise. Anything that you can't answer sucks lel. Like I said, you're too extremist for me.
Sorry you didn’t get the answer you want. And if you think I am extreme, you are not prepared for the big, mean political world. I am just a socially left, fiscally centered independent. I’m not even a socialist.
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On July 26 2016 04:56 zlefin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2016 04:51 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 26 2016 04:50 zlefin wrote:On July 26 2016 04:33 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 26 2016 04:31 zlefin wrote:On July 26 2016 04:27 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 26 2016 04:24 Nyxisto wrote:
Sanders literally stated a year ago that he's not going to blow the Democratic party apart and will endorse the democratic candidate should he lose, what 'true colors' lol that's political talk m8 It shows he is tone deaf to his supporters and despite our ever changing world, he is not reacting to what is happening. He's simply following the same script. He should have denounced Trump and Clinton and left it at that, it's a bad move. isn't it more backbone to say what he believes is right, rather than to say whatever some of his supporters favor to get elected? No, after he got fucked by the party he should not be supporting them in the slightest but he's definitely taking behind the scene deals. That's where the tone deaf disconnect comes in he didn't get screwed over by the entire party; only be some parts of it. and it's not like he HIMSELF is a long-time democrat. I think you just aren't grasping the full situation well. No this is just why I can't take this election seriously, everyone is either far left or far right, very few moderates like myself left. Talking to anyone is like talking to a brick wall. haven't seen a good post since Kwark's. uhhh; I'm a moderate, and there's plent yof other moderates around. I'm not so sure you're a moderate, you don't really talk like one. But people can self-identify as whatever they like I guess. In fact the bulk of voters are independents adn moderates; if talking to everyone is like talking to a brick wall, have you considered that maybe the problem is something in your perception? that's more common really. Your sense of moderate vs extreme doesn't seem to matchup with how people typically use the term.
You're going to tell me some one like Plansix can be spoken to rationally and he isn't the problem? If so you aren't a moderate.
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On July 26 2016 04:58 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2016 04:52 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 26 2016 04:51 Plansix wrote:On July 26 2016 04:47 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 26 2016 04:42 Plansix wrote:On July 26 2016 04:40 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 26 2016 04:36 Plansix wrote:On July 26 2016 04:27 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 26 2016 04:24 Nyxisto wrote:
Sanders literally stated a year ago that he's not going to blow the Democratic party apart and will endorse the democratic candidate should he lose, what 'true colors' lol that's political talk m8 It shows he is tone deaf to his supporters and despite our ever changing world, he is not reacting to what is happening. He's simply following the same script. He should have denounced Trump and Clinton and left it at that, it's a bad move. Not really, no. It shows that there are a section of his supporters that are unwilling to compromise or influence government in any way beyond winning the nomination. This is a myopic and short sighted way to view politics, as no one wins all the time and no one can govern alone. He would need the DNC to get elected and a large part of it wouldn’t play ball. And I doubt there is anything he can say to convince them that he needs their support. Because they refuse to accept a world where he works with Clinton. Alright lets say for a second that you work in a company. You and another guy are working to become partner, which is a huge raise. You are way better educated and better skill-wise in your field. The other guy is simply more well connected at the office. He goes on to become partner, you aren't sure where you went wrong. A month passes by and later you discover that the executives were colluding to get the other guy in because his dad golfs with the CEO, and keep you out at all costs. Do you stay with that company or do you quit and find another job? That isn’t how politics works. You don’t “win” promotions. There isn’t a public voting process. He literally lost by 3.7 million votes. If the DNC could change that many minds and votes at their whim, they couldn’t have lost the House and Senate in 2010. I figured you'd dodge the question and open with your own rhetoric, I dont know why I bothered. You are usually one of the people's posts I skip over when I shadow this thread You're too boxed in for my tastes. I didn’t dodge the question, your analogy sucked. Sanders is going to support Clinton because he got into politics to improve the lives of other people, not himself. He is fine. Refusing to be part of the process because he didn’t win won’t further his goals. His supporters don’t see that because a lot of them are used to the idea of compromise. Anything that you can't answer sucks lel. Like I said, you're too extremist for me. Sorry you didn’t get the answer you want. And if you think I am extreme, you are not prepared for the big, mean political world. I am just a socially left, fiscally centered independent. I’m not even a socialist.
I got zero answer since you're too scared to even answer the question. you're one of the most far left people that posts in this thread easily.
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To me this thread is far right land. I think it's just a matter of perspective
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