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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46686 Posts
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farvacola
United States18876 Posts
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
On July 24 2016 22:46 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: The discourse on immigration reform by the Republican party has fallen from grace. Not to mention Reagan literally saying "Rather than putting up a fence..." lmao. LOL ... what a shame. You think it's good ? Their argument is basically "there is a 40 to 50 % unemployment in Mexico so it's okay we can accept some mexicain who are hard working". Damn, anyone else than an idiot should be shocked at the fact that the unemployment rate (not even talking about poverty) in Mexico was / is so high. Help mexico, rather than syphonning their life force. The state of the world is so sickening. The rise of a Trump like figure was bound to happen if your only response to the poverty of others is to accept a small portion of their citizens to work in slave like condition. And with the rise of environmental migration, things will get worse and worse. Seriously, accepting a migrants with open harms is not a long term solution. | ||
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Dan HH
Romania9256 Posts
On July 25 2016 00:44 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: What a "por" attempt to fake support... http://www.dailydot.com/irl/latinos-para-trump-sign/?fb=ss&prtnr=mic Maybe they are offering latinos as sacrifice to Trump, then 'para' would be correct | ||
Falling
Canada11607 Posts
Is the rumblings of what you are talking about GreenHorizon? DemExit? | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
On July 25 2016 02:06 Nyxisto wrote: not only that but apparently all international agreements that Trump doesn't like. He's completely nuts I can understand the end of certain agreement and a renegociation state by state like he argued in his discourse (because agreements are more about legislation on trading and goods & services rather than tarriff agreements nowadays). I even believe that to be a good move, but a flat out US exit from the WTO, in the current situation, is like dropping a nuke on international trade. | ||
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Dan HH
Romania9256 Posts
On July 25 2016 02:06 Nyxisto wrote: not only that but apparently all international agreements that Trump doesn't like. He's completely nuts Yet this doesn't hurt him much, people are buying the whole 'he's a deal maker, he'll replace NATO/WTO/UN with something that's more advantageous to America'. Hell, we've seen it in this thread plenty of times. | ||
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
On July 25 2016 02:13 Dan HH wrote: Yet this doesn't hurt him much, people are buying the whole 'he's a deal maker, he'll replace NATO/WTO/UN with something that's more advantageous to America'. Hell, we've seen it in this thread plenty of times. Considering the US trade deficit, this might be entirely true, but what about the effect of such move on the world that basically life off thanks to US consumption... You can't do that unilaterally, you need negociation to find a new common ground unless you're ready to see the world turn into shit in no time (and, at that point, your wall will be of no importance to prevent migrants from coming in in increasing numbers). | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22702 Posts
On July 25 2016 01:23 Falling wrote: Diehard Sanders backers descend on Democratic convention vowing 'Bernie or Bust' Is the rumblings of what you are talking about GreenHorizon? DemExit? You have to wonder if these people know how the primary process works. Your candidate lost, he lost the vote by every metric. No your candidate is not still getting the nomination and there is no amount of hostage taking you can try to do to change that. I believe the word they are looking for is... Sore losers, and no one likes a sore loser. | ||
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22702 Posts
On July 25 2016 02:33 xDaunt wrote: Isn't it obvious to y'all yet that the middle class is rebelling against the current global and social world order because they've decided that it doesn't comparatively benefit them? *some people who do not know what they are actually rebelling against have decided to blame the rest of the world for their problems* | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
On July 25 2016 02:33 xDaunt wrote: Isn't it obvious to y'all yet that the middle class is rebelling against the current global and social world order because they've decided that it doesn't comparatively benefit them? it's not the middle class; it's a subset of the middle class. And in some of the cases, they're just plain wrong. in some they're right of course. People can decide whatever they decide; we can still mock them if they're blatantly wrong though. And especially someone running for president should really know better; and hence deserves additional mocking. | ||
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
On July 25 2016 02:33 xDaunt wrote: Isn't it obvious to y'all yet that the middle class is rebelling against the current global and social world order because they've decided that it doesn't comparatively benefit them? you don't set your house on fire because the fridge isn't working. Tearing the global economy down is going to do exactly nothing to improve their live. When large parts of the population decide to act in purely destructive manner you have a big problem. I also don't think it's even purely a class issue any more. It's not just the economically disenfranchised but also people who think that 'their' America or Europe or whatever is being taken away. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On July 25 2016 02:33 xDaunt wrote: Isn't it obvious to y'all yet that the middle class is rebelling against the current global and social world order because they've decided that it doesn't comparatively benefit them? You can punch a hole in a wall to vent over your life's problems. But at the end of the day doing that doesn't fix any of the problems AND you now have a hole in your wall to fix. | ||
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NukeD
Croatia1612 Posts
On July 25 2016 02:36 Gorsameth wrote: *some people who do not know what they are actually rebelling against have decided to blame the rest of the world for their problems* Nice attempt at being smart. Actually its very precise why the climate against the "establishment" is this high today. Its the wealth distribution. I dont know how true the numbers are but we keep hearing over and over again how the top 1% hold 90% of wealth and people have basically accepted this as being true. Hence the "rebbelion" and if true, its a good thing to rebel against. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 25 2016 02:51 NukeD wrote: Nice attempt at being smart. Actually its very precise why the climate against the "establishment" is this high today. Its the wealth distribution. I dont know how true the numbers are but we keep hearing over and over again how the top 1% hold 90% of wealth and people have basically accepted this as being true. Hence the "rebbelion" and if true, its a good thing to rebel against. Except he is right. | ||
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